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C-Mac 08-04-2005 09:45 AM

11 year old Stone-throwing girl escapes trial?
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4744025.stm
An 11-year-old US girl has been spared a felony trial for throwing a stone at boys pelting her with water balloons.
Maribel Cuevas was given informal probation and ordered to talk through what happened with the boy she injured, in a deal agreed by lawyers.
She spent five days in detention and a month under house arrest after being detained in a major police operation.
Police in California said it had been a serious assault, but others said it was no way to treat a childish crime.
The girl's lawyer, Richard Beshwate, said the deal had been agreed ahead of her felony trial on a charge of assault with a deadly weapon, which was due to start on Wednesday.
Under the deal, she will not be required to admit to a criminal offence.
But she will have to attend a Victim Offender Reconciliation Programme, part of which would involve sitting down with eight-year-old Elijah Vang, whom she wounded, and talking about what happened.
"I think everything will be fine," said Maribel's father, Martin, after the proceeding. "This way she'll be able to stay with my wife and me and go to school normally".
Police responded with three cars and a helicopter after the 11-year-old threw a stone at a group of boys who rode by on their bikes and pelted her and her brother with water balloons.
Cuevas supporters said police were criminalising childish behaviour
Maribel, who speaks little English, was read her rights twice in English before being detained.
Police defended their actions, describing the stone as a "jagged-edged, two-pound river rock" that left Elijah Vang with such a deep gash he needed to have stitches.
During her five days in detention, Maribel was reportedly granted one 30-minute visit by her parents.
At the time, Mr Beshwate accused the authorities of "treating her like a violent parole offender."
"It's not a felony, it's an 11-year-old acting like an 11-year-old," he said.
The confrontation happened in late April in a poor district of Fresno, central California, where the girl lives with her Spanish-speaking family
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What am I missing here?
Number one, would this not be a form of self defense?
Second, haven't we all commited this crime, just not being as good a shot as a her?
Must be more to this for this is bizazare, the girl is only 11.

Dartgod 08-04-2005 09:52 AM

Yeah, especially this part:
Quote:

Police responded with three cars and a helicopter after the 11-year-old threw a stone at a group of boys who rode by on their bikes and pelted her and her brother with water balloons.
Isn't that a little excessive for a rock throwing incident? Something's missing here.

beer bacon 08-04-2005 09:53 AM

The kid had to get stiches?!?! Lock that 11 year-old up for life judge!

onescrewleftuntwisted 08-04-2005 09:53 AM

that is so fucked up, i cant realy compare it to anything else

Lzen 08-04-2005 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod
Yeah, especially this part:


Isn't that a little excessive for a rock throwing incident? Something's missing here.

Well, the event did occur in the People's Republic of Kalifornia, after all. :rolleyes:

Rain Man 08-04-2005 10:02 AM

They should have tried her as an adult.

C-Mac 08-04-2005 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
Well, the event did occur in the People's Republic of Kalifornia, after all. :rolleyes:

But she will have to attend a Victim Offender Reconciliation Programme, part of which would involve sitting down with eight-year-old Elijah Vang, whom she wounded, and talking about what happened.

Bingo!

onescrewleftuntwisted 08-04-2005 10:05 AM

death sentence no questions asked
shes guilty she did it

Chiefnj 08-04-2005 10:08 AM

I for one do not feel safe going to Fresno knowing that there is an 11 year old girl capable of hurling boulders at me with the accuracy and speed of Nolan Ryan. I think I will write the prosecutor a letter telling him to push for a criminal trial and the death penalty.

MOhillbilly 08-04-2005 10:09 AM

street justice has its limits in 49 states.
if someone punched you,you have a right to defend yourself but not deal out justice in the form of a beatdown.
I dont think this warrants all the BS,a slap on the wrist and a good scare is punishment enough.

morphius 08-04-2005 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod
Yeah, especially this part:


Isn't that a little excessive for a rock throwing incident? Something's missing here.

Maybe the 3 boys were also taken into custody for assault, so they needed the extra cars?

Thig Lyfe 08-04-2005 10:17 AM

This is actually the inspiration for the next GTA title, Grand Theft Auto: Boulder.

jynni 08-04-2005 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
I for one do not feel safe going to Fresno knowing that there is an 11 year old girl capable of hurling boulders at me with the accuracy and speed of Nolan Ryan. I think I will write the prosecutor a letter telling him to push for a criminal trial and the death penalty.

That's what I was thinking
Quote:

Police defended their actions, describing the stone as a "jagged-edged, two-pound river rock" that left Elijah Vang with such a deep gash he needed to have stitches.
I don't think I could hurl a two pound rock very far and she's only 11?

onescrewleftuntwisted 08-04-2005 10:35 AM

maybe she is on the little leage shotput team

C-Mac 08-04-2005 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jynni
That's what I was thinking

I don't think I could hurl a two pound rock very far and she's only 11?

Ya.... and couple that with being all wet.


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