Bryce Petty
 

If I had to pick a QB in this class who I would like to see us go after, he would be my man. I would not be upset if we got him...

[I'd rather develop Bray]


But is he just a product of the Baylor Offense? He has the arm and high football IQ that you are looking for...

Would he declare? He's still a junior

There are some interesting prospects, QB wise, in this draft, but at what point round wise do you get, as well as talent wise, where you just think "we have Bray already".

Not sure what you are trying to say but passing up on QBs because you got a UDFA from the last class before is about the dumbest thing anyone could do.

Wasting a draft pick on a QB who is not going to beat out the UDFA rookie for the third QB spot on the roster is about the dumbest thing anyone could do.

There isn't a QB in the 2014 draft class that has Bray's ceiling as a potential starting NFL level QB. (And I was nowhere near a "let's draft Tyler Bray" fan last year.)

Thank you!

This draft is loaded with QB's.

Mediocre ones at best.

Geno is better than Bridgewater.
Kaepernick is better than Mariota.
David Carr is better than Derek Carr.

And those are your three top guys.

Mettenberger? Hundley? McCarron? Garoppolo?

This entire QB draft class is filled with "just guys."

The only real interesting guy is Manziel. If he's one of those guys who breaks the mold and is really the second coming of Tarkenton, then there you go, but it's a different era in the NFL. He's instinctive as all get out. He's a better option than RGIII IMO.

I dunno, bridgewater is going 1 overall. He's pretty good.


In ou situation, you're looking for someone better than bray or at least someone to battle him for the 2 spot.

Eventually, I'd love to see us get in a position where we can be the team fleeci other teams for picks on qbs Reid makes look better than they are, not he other way around.

You know what ceiling stands for? Someone who hasn't reached their potential and potentially never will.

Bray went undrafted for a reason. Who the **** goes all in on a UDFA?

But you're right. Lets go get a guard. That's the key to winning the SB right there.

Especially if we still have Buttchin on the roster. And Alex as our QB. And Bray, really. He's nothing special yet.

If Bray's worth a shit, there's a spot for him on this team even if we draft somebody this year. And if there's not, we get a draft pick for him.

I expect Reid to take a QB at some point in this draft.

You know what would really suck?

Drafting a QB and watching both Bray and the drafted QB turn into something other teams want to trade for... OH THE HORROR!

Better get someone to protect Smith and play it safe.

Geno is better than Bridgewater?

My guess is the system. There has never been a Big 12 QB who had a good NFL career. It doesn't mean there never will be, but there is a huge track record of guys who put up gaudy numbers in college and suck in the NFL.

Nobody is going "all in" on a UDFA. He's our third stringer that hasn't suited up for a real game. That's a freaking project, which an UDFA should be.

And getting a guard to better protect your incumbent QB is a lot smarter than drafting a QB who isn't going to beat out your third stringer UDFA who's standing on the sideline in street clothes.

And Bray had the tools to be a first round guy. All QB's dropped in this past draft for whatever reason. But I'll tell you straight up, none of them are better prospects than guys like Geno and Barkley. And Bray does have better tools than any of them.

Jesus...get your panties in a knot because someone doesn't want to draft a mediocre dillweed that is going to get placed on the practice squad at best. There isn't a guy in this draft that has a snowballs chance in hell of beating out Smith, Daniel or Bray in the next three years.

But get all pissy about potentially getting an All-Pro level guard to upgrade what has been the weakest position on the team so far in the 2013 season.

Sacc overvalues linemen and QBs currently on the roster. Surprise.

Are you ****ing serious?

Smith is on a 2 year contract. There's no guarantee he's extended. Daniel is ****ing garbage and, iirc, can be cut next year without a penny owed. And Bray hasn't shown dick, yet.

This team still needs a QB. I'd rather "waste" a pick on a guy that didn't have a snowballs chance in hell (Russell Wilson) than pick a ****ing guard.

Yeah...Russell Wilson. Because there's guys like that in every draft. Joe Montana, Tom Brady...guys like that.

And of course Bray hasn't shown dick. When did you think that was going to happen? Last week? This week?

Totally serious.

Name the "Russell Wilson" in this draft. Name a guy in this draft who is going to beat out anyone on this roster.

I'll help you with it - there isn't one.

There is NEVER one right?

Just like there's never a Ryan Tannehill, Colin Kaepernick, Nick Foles, EJ Manuel, Kirk Cousins, etc...

Definitely safer to pick a guard.

No guy is going to beat out Alex Smith this year.

The point is we better start preparing for life after Alex. Bray isn't enough.

The Chiefs are like the majority of their fans...

Fan 1 - "There isn't a QB worth picking. It's best we choose a lineman and play it safe."

2 years later...

Fan 2 - "What about QB X?"

Fan 1 - "LOL! Hindsight 50/50!!!"

I believe the Chiefs spend more time scouting backup QBs on other teams than they do college QBs.

saccoshit is clearly the dumbest mother ****er alive.

no one is good enough

too risky

next year

draft OL

Bray is a four year project.

The guy hasn't seen the field his rookie season and deservedly so.

So how can anyone state that "Bray isn't enough."? You can't, because you don't know.

And there isn't a rookie in the 2014 draft that has his tools. There isn't a rookie in the 2014 draft that's going to beat out Smith next year. Or the year after.

I'm sorry that is what it is, but it is what it is.

Drafting another QB in 2014 is simply pissing away a pick. They would be the fourth QB on the roster and would be on the practice squad at best. Guaranteed. It's a class filled with "just guys" other than Manziel and I'm still not sure about him as an NFL QB in this day and age.

What I do know is that our guards and wide receivers need to be upgraded immediately if this team is going to have a chance in the next three to five years, which is the window they have.

They will start looking at QB's in the 2015 and later drafts depending upon Bray's development, but you sure as shit aren't going to see one in 2014. You better hope that it's guard/receiver every other pick unless a stud at FS or TE is available when they pick in the first round. However, they have a good shot at getting a very, very good guard or receiver at their first round selection regardless.

I beseech you to think objectively on this and realize that drafting a mediocre QB prospect in 2014 would be folly.

Oh god yes.

I'm just hoping and praying the Chiefs find it in their hearts to finally address the line in the first round!

Come on Dorsey! Answer my prayers!

I've gotta spread more rep...but gawd damn that was sexy!


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Completely unrealistic.

It's not that there isn't a QB worth picking (even though that's the case in the 2014 draft), it's that picking one is simply going to be a waste of a pick as they aren't going to beat out anyone on this roster and will be relegated to the practice squad at best. That's a waste of a pick.

And you are using failed logic in thinking that the Chiefs are going to draft Russell Wilson, Tom Brady or Joe Montana rather than a guy who will join the vast multitudes of QBs who were drafted in the later rounds who have never made an NFL roster, busted out or whathaveyou.

You, sir, are living a pipe dream.

Of course I'm living in a pipe dream.

I will never give up hope that the Chiefs will get out of their own ****ing way and make their own luck.

After all, they will never pick the next Russell Wilson when they are busy picking guards.

I reemember one time I said, "man I like this russell wilson kid a lot, let's take him in the third round," and everyone was all, "that's too early, you can get him in the fifth but its a wasted pick because he's super short and will never make it." And I was all, "yeah but he plays behind the biggest line in college at wisconsin," and everyone was all, "too short!" Tell me sacc, where did you stand on russell wilson?

I always liked Doug Flutie.

I was in that too short crowd.

I was all about drafting Ryan Tannehill/Kirk Cousins in that draft and taking a shot on EJ Manuel last year.

Oh how I would love to be eating some crow when it came to guys like Russell Wilson and Nick Foles. But **** no, I'm stuck here watching guys like Fisher get schooled a handful of times a game and yet another underwhelming 49ers scrap yard QB.

Or you could be watching the Chiefs go 9-1 so far this season...

I guess it's all in the individuals perspective.

If only I was simple minded enough to focus on a number.

Must be nice.

Good thing we took Fisher. Otherwise, we wouldn't be 9-1.

Yea I was not on the Foles bandwagon. But if he was owning fools for the Chiefs I would happily eat as much crow as the football gods see fit. I feel your pain, man. I truly do.

I also don't know if I'm going to win the lottery or not.

Just to be safe, I probably shouldn't build up a retirement account. That would be foolish and a waste of funds that I could be putting to better use right now.

Alex Smith's contract is up after the 2014 season, Sac. What if he wants more money than we're willing to pay? What's your answer? What do we do?

We have Daniel signed through 2015 so it's all good.

I just threw up a little...

It's quite simple, and I don't understand what Sac has against cutting Buttchin loose next season, drafting a QB we like, and then letting he and Bray duke it out behind Smith.

I'm down.


I'm also not smart enough to understand what kind of a cap hit we would take next season if we cut Booger loose...

So there's that.

Basically nothing. We might even save money on the cap.

Actually, scratch that. I'm wrong. I thought it was a front-loaded deal.

It's 3 years, $10 million, with $3 million signing bonus and $4.8 guaranteed. His salary number for 2013 was only $800,000, so we'd end up eating some dead space if we cut him next year.

**** you, Dorsey.

The other interesting thing about it, though, is there's a clause that makes the contract void if he throws for 2000 yards in a season, basically putting in a clause that he's accepting this money as a backup QB, but if the time ever comes where he's not just holding a clipboard on Sundays, he's going to get paid starters money.

JFC.

I didn't think he got that much guaranteed money.

Way to go Dorsey. 9 career passes nets you $5 million to hold a clipboard.

Meanwhile, in GB, Matt Flynn re-signs on a 1 year $715k deal to be a backup.

So you believe that there will not be a single starting caliber QB from the 2014 draft?

Because Daniel isn't one. So if there's nobody from this draft that's good enough to beat out Daniel, you're saying that there's nobody from this draft that is going to be good enough to start for a credible NFL football team.

Yeah, I'll take that bet. I've not followed the position nearly as closely as last years, but there's no doubt in my mind that there's a starter in this draft. There's a starter in every draft.

Even if there isn't a Luck, there's a Glennon or Foles. There's a guy that will succeed in the right spot and there's no reason that spot can't be here.

If Bray has shown anything this year, I'd cut Daniel and let those two fight for the #2 job. If he hasn't, I'd cut Bray and replace him. You should know after having a guy in the system for a year if he's good enough to bother trying to develop.

The Chiefs should absolutely explore the possibility of adding a QB in this draft.

Daniel's a $3 million cap hit next season if he's cut with a $3.4 million cap hit if he isn't. So the Chiefs would save a little bit if they cut him, but not enough to making cutting him for the sake of $$ worth doing.

But if you can save a little bit and clear a roster spot for another developmental QB, his contract doesn't make it prohibitive to do so.

Draft Chuckie Keeton.

Will Chuckie Keaton come out? He's a junior and he blew out his knee this year.

I love that Baylor offense and everything but I don't know about Petty. His play and stats seem to take a slight dip whenever the competition increases. I know... shocking... but I just don't trust him. So many playmakers on that offense. Hell, even Nick Florence hit his stride late last year... and he wasn't a very good QB (that beat out Petty).

Manziel, Bridgewater, and Mariota will likely be gone. Hundley should stay in school and I expect him to. Im not huge on Boyd. I kind of like Murray, but he may be limited. I kind of like Mettenberger, but he's a bit of a project like Bray. But I wouldn't complain about drafting any QB unless it's Logan Thomas. Would love to see Alex, Bray, Rookie going into 2014.

Watch his game against USC. He'd be a 6th-7th rounder.

I refuse to evaluate draft prospects until after the Chiefs are done. I spent too much time doing so the last few years. I just want to enjoy the experience of the Chiefs winning season right now. And Bask in its glow.

I liked Foles coming out. In fact, I seem to remember taking shit about stating that I thought he was a better prospect than Tannehill.

And who says Daniel isn't Russ Wilson? He wasn't beating out Brees and he isn't going to beat out Smith, but given the chance...who knows. We certainly don't, and I'm not sure that simply drafting another guy because we don't think he's good enough is complete justification for drafting another dude just to draft another dude because another dude is just going to be another dude.

And I think Bray, with proper coaching, has a lot of potential.

I'm really not too concerned with the Chiefs QB situation right now.

Like I said, if the coaching staff thinks that they can better it down the road because Bray isn't advancing in two seasons or so, that's fine. But right now, in the 2014 draft, by picking another QB, you are just picking a guy who's never going to get a shot at being anything other than the fourth guy on the depth chart at that position. That's just what it is at this point.

I think that most of you would be more concerned with fixing the obvious problems, which are WR and OG, both of which could be high level guys, or potentially high level guys, where the Chiefs will most likely pick.

A Gabe Jackson or Odell Beckham would do a lot more for this team than a guy who doesn't stand much of a chance in beating out Bray, let alone Daniel and Smith for a roster spot.

Like I said, I'm not really thrilled with this QB class. It seems like a whole bunch of average. It's not like there is a Joe Montana or Tom Brady here - who, despite their lower round selections, kicked the shit out of people in college. You aren't seeing that with any of these guys outside of Manziel and a little in Bridgewater, but everytime I watch Teddy, nothing stands out. He's good, but he's not positional epiphany level stuff.

I'm assuming that he comes back for his senior season, if he comes back at all. Pretty nasty damage to the knee. Really a shame as he was a very dynamic player who really had a drive and determination about him.

Reminded me a lot of Kaepernick at the same level, though Colin was obviously a bigger guy.

Someone who would offer a different type of QB style than what Bray does. More Smith than Bray, but has a little gunslinger to him as well.

I like the guy as a player and a leader on the field.

So is that why Bridgewater is gonna go first overall?

There will be some good guards available, but I'm going to renew my opposition to first round guards - sorry to disappoint.

As for WRs, that's where I'd like to see the pick go, but I don't like what I'm seeing in the mocks so far. The WRs that look to hit the 20s all sound a lot like Bowe to me. The others are guys that are probably reaches that high.

True, but what SEC quarterbacks have done anything since Peyton was drafted 15 years ago? Cutler is alright I suppose with an 84 career rating as does Stafford which is about league average. Eli has an 81 career rating.

I like Cam Newton a lot so far. Anybody I'm missing?

Saul and Bitch keep your SEC/Big 12 flame war out of the draft forum.

Watch Russell Wilson play some Badger games.

Then watch Daniel play some Tiger games.

There's a difference, dude. A HUUUUUUGE difference.

I'd say Manning, Manning, Cutler, Newton and Stafford is a pretty damn good roster, to be honest.

Hell, even the SEC busts have been pretty decent - see Campbell, Jason

Though really, NC State has the best claim to QB U right now - Rivers, Glennon and Wilson (where he played most of his career).

A little hyperbole on my part to be sure, but Daniel was a very good college quarterback who has obviously stuck around the NFL as the #2 guy for a reason. Not too mention that he's been second fiddle to two guys in Brees and Smith who are noted for their work ethic and cerebral understanding of the game as well as two noted QB "gurus" in Peyton and Reid. While he's not "ideal" in the sense of prototypical physical qualities, he's got a lot under his belt in terms of intangibles, coaching and mentoring. Kind of like Wilson but better in those parameters.

And if it wasn't for Crazy Pete, Russell Wilson would still be on the bench of every other team in the league.

It's going to be very, very hard for anybody to beat out Smith as well as Daniel for the #1 and #2 spots on this roster unless it's a guy who has those physical attributes with the mental potential to play in the Reid/Ault/Childress/Peterson west coast/read option system. And they were able to get the guy with the physical aspects in Bray. Like I said, there isn't a guy in the 2014 draft with the physical traits/skill set of Bray. And there isn't a guy with the experience of either Smith or Daniel.

Just my two cents, but when you consider all aspects, using a draft pick on a QB in 2014 isn't going to net you much if anything beyond what we have and I don't think that there is anyone who is going to give you even a ceiling to what we currently have on the roster.

2014 should be about shoring up the few obvious holes that remain on the starting lineup/roster. Where we pick, we would be able to address either the WR or OG spot with a high level prospect.

Gabe Jackson has perennial All-Pro written all over him and I really like Odell Beckham, especially for this offense, i.e., precise route running, great hands, run after the catch capabilities, etc.

Don't forget Brodie Croyle. Solid.

Staying at Baylor.

Probably wise.

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@mr_tomahawk: #BrycePettyToKC

I think Andy Reid will take Garrett Grayson long before he'd take Bryce Petty.

@AllbrightNFL: Bryce Petty gets a lot of hate for a guy that threw 62 TDs to only 10 picks in college.

Petty, Winston and Mariotta were the only 3 guys at the combine who looked like they could ever be NFL QB's.

Or wait till next year so he can review Murray's progress and see if he can take the 2nd string spot. KC already signed Pryor as another potential developmental QB.

Agree. Mostly just addressing "if." I don't think KC takes a QB this year.

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So am I supposed to like petty? I'm a little afraid of baylor qbs

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Baylor QB Bryce Petty "might be the most natural thrower of the football in this entire draft," according to Mike Mayock.

"I really think he's got starter physical traits," Mayock said, adding Petty is not NFL ready. This issue with Petty is when something broke down in Baylor's offense, meaning pressure or throwing to covered receivers, he broke down. Baylor is so good at creating one on one matchups, but succeeding outside of structure absolutely was not something Petty showed in 2014.

I will never complain about us taking too many QB's. If Andy thinks he can be the guy, go for it

@CFB: Bryce Petty: Gruden QB camp http://t.co/2vSJrWWwX8

3rd round comp sounds good to me.

I think he'll be gone by then. I think with this poor QB class that he will be over drafted.
Idk I can see a team like Buffalo, NYJ or Chicago drafting him in round 2 out of desperation.

@SeniorBowlPhil: Check out this video #espn http://t.co/AzBywh5XMP Bryce Petty at Gruden QB Camp. @seniorbowl alum has arm talent.

I dont need to watch that video to know that Gruden has his jaw dropped waiting for Petty to insert his cock.

I was all in favor of Petty in Round 1, until he got the concussions, but then I look at the QB class, and I guess I really don't care what round it is if he becomes a Chief. I'm not sure he has a quick enough release or can make quick enough decisions to play in Reid's offense, but if Reid wants him go ****ing get him.

You know what, Flacco's footwork was NON-****ING EXISTANT and was a spread guy. To top it all off he got beat the **** out by Tyler Mother****ing Palko (remember that mother****ing turd burgler?). No way in ****ing **** that assbag should have been a first round pick....and he won a Super Bowl.

If Petty is the guy, go ****ing get him. Don't pull this, "he'll be there in the third round!" shit.

Now if there is a low probability he'll work out, sure take him in a flyer pick, but don't sit here and try to sell him as your Russell Wilson. Either he's the guy or he's a low probability flier.