Bonecrusher Pollard, Wrecker of Patriots
 

Impressive, impressive run.

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...ip-sunday.html

Awesome. Somehow to me, he's more of a Chief than Tony G!

i miss him and Albert, Lewis and Cherry...

There's never been any doubt that Pollard can hit. He hits like a truck.

He was pretty fun to watch. Old school type of safety.

Was great on special teams also. Had a knack for blocking punts.

But he liked to dance, so he's not part of the right 53.

/Fat Scott

I love hearing the Pats fans talking about how dirty he is when they had two of the dirtiest in the game..

Law and Harrison..

I love NE sports talk radio after a loss

ahh ... the Chiefs fan never ending quest to bitch about every player not drafted and/or not signed to a contract extension.

People here were glad as hell when he left.

I wish he was still here....him and Berry would be a good tandem.

It sucks that we have massive holes at safety and corner because of egoli.

Our secondary would be sick

Carr
Flowers
Arenas
Pollard
Berry
(and Lewis to fill a role in sub packages)

ya, he's turned into Ronnie Lott in Baltimore. Should have kept his ass.

wasn't he (Pollard) cut in mid season?

Final preseason roster cut in 2009.

I think it was because he was willing to speak his mind, but your point stands.

I wasn't happy. I liked him a lot, just wish the Brady hit didn't cost us four years with Matt Cassell :doh!:

I still wish we kept him on our team. Good luck to Bonecrusher Pollard in the Super Bowl but don't want the Ravens to win it.

Hindsight is a funny thing. Back in '09 people were calling for his head.

"Always looking for the big hit, never wraps up"

"terrible in coverage"

he sucked in kc, and sucked in houston....

he got torched regularly

He didn't like getting yelled/cursed at.

He didn't suck that bad. I loved him in KC wanted to watch him get better over the years like he did. Super Bowl bound.

He was young that needed to grow up. He said the best thing for him was getting cut by the Chiefs to help him grow up in the game and take it more sereious. He may not have worked out for the Chiefs even if he stayed, good coaching can go a long ways.

Its not like the chiefs were the only team who dumped him. Dude takes some bad angles and sucks in coverage. If pioli kept him we likely dont draft Berry.

This all 100% true and factual.

He did the same shit in Houston.

Shocking that when an ordinary player, at best, plays along side 2 HOFers, he becomes better.

Then you like garbage, because that is what he was in KC and Houston.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he now plays on a D with much better talent and coaching.

hell, that forced fumble probably sealed the deal for the Ravens trip to the Superbowl. Dude ****s up the Patriots lol.

Damn pollard. Hes the main reason cassel is even here.

I don't like garbage, but I like to see guys work hard and grow up in this league and better themselves. That is exactly what Bernard Pollard did.

Some players take longer than others to develop it all depends on how patient you want to be with them. I still thought he had potential to be good. He gets to go to the Super Bowl so I don't think he gives a **** what us Chiefs fans think of him then.

Pollard was never cut out to be a Tampa 2 safety. We talk all the time about wanting an attacking defense, well, using him as a downhill safety who patrols the short middle of the field is exactly what he does best.

The man reaves souls.

Yeah after all Tony Gonzalez "only" owns the Chiefs career receptions, receiving yards, receiving TD's, yards from scrimage and consecutive games with a reception records... all that is nothing compared to Pollard's two season in KC.

When he played here, he missed a lot of tackles looking for kill shots. He also had a lot of unsportsmanlike penalties, which he still has problems with in Baltimore. Having Ed Reed alongside has helped him. He may have been a great combo here once we got Eric Berry. He has matured, learned and improved as a player. Sometime a change of scenery is all a guy needs. That seemed to help Priest Holmes when he came to KC. Pollard is definitely Pats Kryptonite.

That was a monster hit last night. Loved it!

Pollard is quickly rising on my list of favorites with each bout of tears he delivers to the Patsies and their fans.

No doubt he can hit like a truck.. He sucked in coverage and missed tackles.

Greg Wesley shit all over Pollard's play. And he could lay the wood too.

You know, I'm not totally buying that if Pollard doesn't hit Brady's knee, Cassel never comes here. Sure, Cassel's time as a starter helped justify it, but we all know Fat Snot wanted who he wanted. Matt Flynn played all of what one/two games and would have been a starter if not for Russel Wilson being a ripe rookie.

As far as Pollard going on to better things, what Chief hasn't? It's a bit of a crap shoot, but if you're hedging bets, any player that leaves the Chiefs will enjoy more success elsewhere.

Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are having the worst years of their careers.

how about better coaching and a scheme change that uses Bernie's skills much better being the reason he was the #1 vote getting at SS this year for the Pro Bowl, and plays like it? Ever think of that? That when Bernie was here we had to the shittiest coaches and GMs and him landing on a real organization was the benefiting factor? It would be the same for Eric Berry, Brandon Flowers, Dwanye Bowe, etc. They go to a good team, their play will be improved and recognized.

LMAO

Scheme has nothing to do with the fact that he was a poor tackler that took bad angles.

No but coaching does.

Oh noes, a young player took bad angles and didn't always wrap up.

It's not at all possible he might get better with some experience and better coaching.

eh, it was an illegal hit. he'll prolly pay a fine.


that said, itd be nice if he were still here.

Yes, and I said as much earlier.

Pollard got a bad rap while he was here. He was being coached by Gunther for crying out loud.

And even if you thought he was a liability he was still one of the best special team players in the league. More Scott fail.

that's funny seeing how i just spent all season reading on this forum about how scheme and coaching is 95 percent of the problem with the Chiefs offense and defense.

but it's not when it's another player on another team. got it.

Scheme still has nothing to do with tackling technique.

Dude was a flying missile yesterday.

Actually, Pollard's tackle on that hit was atrocious.

Ridley went down because he was unconscious.

Pollard is better than Kendrick Lewis, I guess.

Yeah it only took 6 years.

Like hopefully it will here this year. :thumb:

So the moral of this story is that Reid could coach up the real patriot. Stanzi. Cool

Ridley lowered his head and knocked himself out and knocked Pollard a little woosey

you can say the exact same thing about almost every turd player on the Chiefs

"scheme still has nothing to do with beating the press and keeping your balance, Jon Baldwin you steamy turd"

"scheme still has nothing to do with Allen Bailey knowing zero moves and getting blown off the ball every play"

"scheme still has nothing to do with Jalil Brown having zero awareness on every play and running in quicksand"

"scheme still has nothing to do with Jeff Allen being absolute dog shit"

see same applies

This. Sucked ass.

Missed about twenty tackles in a preseason game against the Seahawks iirc.

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He ****ing sucked here.
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GoChiefs was the main Pollard hater here. I always liked him. I think he was the last Chief to block a punt. And he blocked several.

I hated him for the same reason I hate McCluster:

1. He was drafted way too high.

2. He sucked hard.

3. Despite that he had a legion of ballwashers.

He absolutely sucked ass when he was here, but he's improved since.

Pollard didn't tackle him. He just hit Pollard.

Pollard was great on special teams here. I was sad about losing that, but everything else about his play as a Chief sucked. If he stays in KC though, I don't think he becomes a better player. He needed to find the right scheme and coaching, and he needed some time to mature as well as some strong team leadership, something that we've been missing for a long time in my opinion.

Pollard is the new Joe Horn

oh yea, he was another Carl and Herm draft pick. Other than not finding a QB, those guys drafted pretty decent from 06-08.

Bernard Pollard, you're my hero.

He was meh here, and nobody was that sad to see him go. Glad to see he's made a career of crushing Patriots.

This

He was a Strong Safety being asked to play a cover-2, almost FS.

He was being mis-used badly. Once he was asked to play a true SS, as he should've been from the start, he's been an excellent player.

I said it when we cut him - it was an unbelievably stupid, shortsighted decision and it was the one that fully and finally sold me against that arrogant ****stain (back when you were still telling folks to shut up and kiss his Super Bowl rings).

It's okay to admit it when you mis-fire on a decision. You, and everyone else that supported cutting Bernard Pollard, were flat ****ing wrong.

He sucked in houston too.

he was a stop gap in Houston

that team didnt get good until their scheme change. Bernie wasnt there for the Wade Phillips defense that put that team on the map

all those guys sucked in Houston prior to that. Mario Williams, Demeco Ryans, Connor Barwin, Antonio Smith, whatever secondary scrubs there were, garbage.

No he didn't.

You people just refuse to recognize a middle-ground between All Pros and shitty players. Some guys are just passable starters; every team has a handful of them. The Chiefs don't right now and that's exactly why they're awful. Bernard Pollard has always been the kind of servicable starter that every decent team is going to have a few of and desperately need.

Yes, he got beat on occasion in Houston, just as he did in KC. Why? Because he's not a coverage safety and never will be. Hell, Berry gets beat and he isn't anywhere near the hitter that Pollard is.

His first season as a starter in Houston he had 4 picks and 7 PDs, not to mention 82 tackles. His AV per PFR was 7 (Berry's this season was 8). Hell, I'm pretty sure he was Pro-Bowl alternate that year.

No, he did not 'suck' by any definition of the term. He was a decent player with a killer's mentality that could be victimized by double-moves. He was absolutely a starting caliber Safety and he'd have been no worse than the 2nd best safety on our team every single season since he's been cut.

Cutting him was asinine and showed a severe lack of foresight by ***** as well as a complete inability to recognize and adapt to someone's skill-set. ***** proved that to be his major blind spot his entire time here. Pollard was just another square peg to *****, but since he injured the Don's golden boy, he didn't even attempt to hammer him into a a round hole.

Instead he dumped a 24 yr old, 2 year starter with upside and a decent track record of success. He was a stupid cut and time has only proven that.

this...

and

as a young player he needs teaching and mentoring.. not sure he got that in his first 4 years. Compare his seasons to say a Rodney Harrison... you might be suprised.

nails. :thumb:

Man, our sub package would have been interesting as to how teams played us with Pollard still around. You could slide him the box next to DJ, you could have him free lance in cv1 spots, etc.

Pioli was Millen bad when you evaluate all of the roster moves he did. Thankfully, he's set up a solid OL (despite Romeo/Daboll trying to kill Charles this year) that will be excellent for Geno to step into.

Ugh...a secondary with Flowers/Carr and Berry/Pollard.

Eh...that only would've been the best secondary in football had we not tossed half of it in the trash for no return at all. No big deal.

It's pretty funny to see Clay and Sauto in here still grinding the axe on this one. Especially Clay after his love affair with Mike Brown.

The verdict is in here - cutting Bernard Pollard was stupid.

Berry wouldnt have been brought here had they kept pollard and yes he did indeed suck in Houston. Theres a reason they didn't keep him.

Well, in hindsight, yes.

It's hard to say if he would have improved had he stayed here.

He still deserved to be cut based on how horribly he played that preseason and how horrible he had been to that point in his career. The guy was a shitty tackler, and that has zilch to do with scheme.

He didn't suck. There's a reason the Ravens signed him and installed him as a starter from day 1.

Your logic here is absolute shit.

But then again, you were wright there alongside Clay and Sauto in the Pollard threads and you've never been one to actually analyze anything so why would I expect you to look at this intelligently?

Bernard Pollard has never been a 'suck' player. He's been, at his worst, an adequate starter with flaws in his game. And he's been a starter in this league for 6 years now, with more to come.

But yeah...he sucked. Because Billay and Claythan said so. Keep on ****ing that chicken, cornholer.

That's just not true. The guy missed more tackles than almost every other safety in the league in 2008. He was a huge liability, and when he kept doing the same shit in 2009 preseason, welp, cut.

Holy shit, he was graded 80th out of 83 safeties that year. I mean, come on. He allowed 5 TDs.

So why did 2 other teams dump him again?

In hindsight my ass, some of us said it in real time and got to listen to you slob off Mike Brown and disparage a relative NFL infant for a technique flaw that an idiot head coach drilled into him.

And no, a 24 yr old kid with 2 seasons as a starter and a decent learning curve never 'deserves' to get cut because of a bad pre-season. Especially not so a 2-14 team could keep a ****ing 32 yr old broke-dick safety that was slower than Sammy Knight instead.

You know who sucked? That asshole. The guy that never played another down of NFL football after we cut him. THAT guy sucked.

You were wrong. Just ****ing admit it and move along. You've got the GIFs you slobbered all over before you had any concept of 'selection bias' and worn out old saws regarding missed tackles in the open field from Strong Safeties, as though every SS in the NFL is just making open-field tackles on guys in space every day.

Really, all you have are the preconceived notions you had when you still thought Scott Pioli was a God. Time has shown us that Scott Pioli is a goddamn idiot and Bernard Pollard is a quality starting Strong Safety in this league.

Just walk away...

Let go by two teams and ranked 80/83


Talk about bizzaro world.

I'm not going to "Walk away" because shitty tacklers who show zero signs of improving in that regard deserve to be cut.

This isn't Joe Horn part two. Bernard Pollard was crap here. You do not DAMN NEAR LEAD THE LEAGUE IN MISSED TACKLES and escape judgment, sorry. Facts are facts.

He was fairly shitty in Houston too so it's not like this happened overnight.

The Chiefs dumped him because Scott Pioli is a goddamn moron. Care to argue that point?

The Texans didn't dump him, they just didn't offer him the 4/$12 million that the Ravens did. How's that dumping him? He was their starter all year.

Again, your logic is garbage. Teams make decisions not to re-sign players all the time. For instance, is Brandon Carr shitty because the Chiefs didn't re-sign him? No, they just didn't want to pay premium money to keep him.

A $12 million contract for a SS is a pretty sizeable contract - the Texans didn't want to pay it so the Ravens did. And they immediately made him their starter.

Yeah - he sucked so badly that a team that is clearly better run than all but about 5 in the NFL gave him $12 million to be their starter.

This is as bad an argument as I've ever seen from you and I've seen you create some amazingly shitty arguments.

DJ is going menstrual again. Care to touch the 80/83 thing or you just gonna write paragraphs of excuses?

Ah, good ol' revisionist history.

Pollard showed plenty of signs of improvement. He was getting better in his angles and actually getting more responsible in coverage, though clearly still very raw.

And then Pioli cut him for Mike Brown. And no, he wasn't shitty in Houston. You and Billay are just flat making this up. He was a Pro-Bowl alternate his first year and in his 2nd year he earned a contract that put his salary well above the halfway point for strong-safeties in this league.

Again - you children are simply incapable of differentiating between a decent player and a great one. Pollard NEVER sucked. Never. Not for a single year he has ever started in this league. Mike ****ing Brown sucked. THAT is suck. Being so lousy that nobody ever allows you to play for them ever again.

Bernard Pollard has been signed and made a starter for 2 teams that are vastly superior to the organization that cut him loose. He most assuredly did not 'suck'.

Improving, but still darn near the worst safety in the league in every measurable way.

Hilarious.

That is the DEFINITION OF SUCK, friend. Why ignore facts?

His last season there he gave up SIX touchdowns. 65th rated safety. Texans fans HATED him.

Your bias far outweighs any facts I bring unfortunately.