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Mama Hip Rockets 01-19-2013 01:39 AM

The Complete Arnold List/An Exhaustive Ranking of All 29 Schwarzengger Starring Roles
 
In honor of the outstanding return of Arnold Schwarzenegger in The LAst Stand tonight, I present to you my complete ranking of The Governator's movies.

29. Conan the Barbarian (1982)
By far the most overrated of all Arnold films, and really of any films. Absolutely atrocious from start to finish. No redeeming qualities.

28. The Villain (1979)
A live-action Roadrunner and Wylie Coyote spoof in which Arnold wears a powder blue cowboy suit and is named The Handsome Stranger. Not nearly as awesome as it sounds.

27. Red Sonja (1985)
Arguably the worst cast of all time, led by the remarkably annoying monkey child.

26. Hercules in New York (1969)
Easily one of the worst movies ever made, but still only the fourth worst Arnold movie. The hilarity of Arnold playing Hercules bumps it ever so slightly past the previous three turds.

25. Batman and Robin (1997)
Again, universally considered one of the worst movies ever. Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy is one of the most atrocious performances in the history of acting. I, however, can't help but enjoy the boatloads of bad ice puns that Schwarzenegger unloads in this picture. LET'S KICK SOME ICE!

24. Stay Hungry (1976)
A movie with no discernible point.

23. The Jayne Mansfield Story (1980)
A movie about a blonde chick or something. I don't remember it. I don't even remember Arnold being in it.

22. Conan the Destroyer (1984)
Much better than Conan the Barbarian. Much worse than most other movies.

21. End of Days (1999)
Awful.

20. Red Heat (1988)
Jim Belushi turns in an alarmingly unfunny sidekick role which really takes this movie down a few notches. He's no Tom Arnold in True Lies; that's for sure.

19. The Running Man (1987)
The movie that The Hunger Games ripped off. Some great one-liners by Arnold, but overall a disappointing film.

18. Last Action Hero (1993)
Starts strong from the very beginning ("You want to be a farmer? Here's a couple of acres!") and shows promise for about half an hour. Unnecessarily long and incredibly boring after that.

17. Raw Deal (1986)
Spectacular soundtrack and decent action, but a severely depressing lack of classic Arnold one-liners.

16. Jingle All the Way (1996)
Schwarzenegger is great ("YOU BARKED UP THE WRONG TREE!") and Phil Hartman plays an excellent obnoxious neighbor, but Sinbad crushes the replay value of this film. There's only so much Sinbad a man can take in one lifetime.

15. Junior (1994)
"She was Daddy's little girl…now he's giving her away!"

14. Collateral Damage (2002)
The movie is fine, but is one of the least funny of all Schwarzenegger films. Negative points for forgetting to have Arnold be funny in the script.

13. Pumping Iron (1977)
Fascinating, well-done documentary on bodybuilding featuring a very young Lou Ferrigno alongside Mr. Universe.

12. The 6th Day (2000)
Arnold clones himself and the bad guy is Danny Tanner's twin. Good enough for me.

11. Twins (1988)
Volume 1 of the Schwarzenegger/DeVito comedy dream team. Looking forward to the sequel with Eddie Murphy.

10. Terminator 3 (2003)
One of the more underrated Schwarzenegger films. Often overlooked because it didn't live up to T2…but then again, not a lot of movies do.

9. The Terminator (1984)
I'm not as high on this one as most people (in fact, I didn't like it at all the first time I saw it), but I do enjoy it more every time I watch it. A lot of iconic moments.

8. Total Recall (1990)
"Consider it a divorce."

7. Predator (1987)
The only movie where Arnold shows genuine fear. Of course, he still wins, but still an interesting tidbit.

6. Eraser (1996)
Schwarzenegger shooting an alligator and saying, "You're luggage" is worth the price of admission.

5. The Last Stand (2013)
After a ten-year break, even at age 65, Arnold hasn't lost a step. Well-written screenplay featuring that vintage blend of Schwarzenegger action and comedy.

4. Kindergarten Cop (1990)
This movie probably holds the record for most forehead veins popping out in fits of rage from a lead character. An abundance of spectacular quotes ("There is no bathroom!", "It's not a toomah!", "I'm da potty poopah," "Who is your daddy and what does he do?", "SHUUUUUUT UUUUUUP!", etc.)

3. Terminator 2 (1991)
"Chill out, dickwad."

2. True Lies (1994)
One of the rare Schwarzenegger movies that would actually be good even without Arnold. Well-done thriller with an excellent cast. Really looking forward to this being released on Blu-Ray.

1. Commando (1985)
An undeniably manly beast of a film.

nstygma 01-19-2013 02:09 AM

i think predator, running man, total recall should be much closer to the top

Frazod 01-19-2013 02:16 AM

If you put this list together on your own, kill yourself.

Gravedigger 01-19-2013 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9332317)
29. Conan the Barbarian (1982)
By far the most overrated of all Arnold films, and really of any films. Absolutely atrocious from start to finish. No redeeming qualities. .

This is where the thread lost all credibility. Conan... worse than ALL his other movies... Junior is way too high wayyyyy wayyyyy too high. End of Days is too low, should be looped together with Collateral Damage in the middle somewhere. The 6th Day is too high, two Arnold's.... Kindergarten Cop is funny and all but higher than Predator? Higher than Total Recall? The rest of the list is fine but Conan may not be his best but it is most definitly not his worst. The revenge story of a boy seeing his family die, with his mothers head chopped off right next to him, grown up seeks revenge, loses the woman he falls in love with and then chops off James Earl Jones' head in the end only to throw it down the stairs in front of all of his disciples. Everyone has their own opinion but.... yeah.

jspchief 01-19-2013 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9332382)
If you put this list together on your own, kill yourself.

.

Crush 01-19-2013 07:26 AM

Am I the only person that absolutely hates Terminator 2? That movie sucked.

Cheater5 01-19-2013 08:34 AM

Eraser superior to Predator?

Kindergarten Cop in the top 5?

Train wreck of a list.

Mama Hip Rockets 01-19-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9332597)
Am I the only person that absolutely hates Terminator 2?

Yes.

Mama Hip Rockets 01-19-2013 09:58 AM

I think you guys are taking this a little too seriously. I enjoy Schwarzenegger movies mainly for their cheesiness. Only a handful of his movies are legitimately good films. Everybody CHILL.

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Deberg_1990 01-19-2013 10:00 AM

Predator, Terminator Saga, True Lies and Total Recall. The rest are far behind......but alot of them hold guilty pleasure factor for me.

Deberg_1990 01-19-2013 10:10 AM

Thread starter is the first person ive ever heard say or list Conan the Destroyer as better than Barbarian?? WTF?


Destroyer was pure cheeeese.

Mama Hip Rockets 01-19-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9332847)
Thread starter is the first person ive ever heard say or list Conan the Destroyer as better than Barbarian?? WTF?


Destroyer was pure cheeeese.

I hated both of them, but I hated Barbarian more.

Deberg_1990 01-19-2013 10:15 AM

I liked End of Days alot more than most people. Its decently made and shows a more vulnerable side to Arnie.

notorious 01-19-2013 10:16 AM

Eraser?


Really?

True Lies kicked ass, and Predator should be 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.

Deberg_1990 01-19-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9332862)
Eraser?


Yes because Arnie with Rail Guns kicks ass.

Ceej 01-19-2013 10:29 AM

Last Action Hero needs to be higher!

Used to watch the shit out of that when I was younger.

Lex Luthor 01-19-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9332597)
Am I the only person that absolutely hates Terminator 2? That movie sucked.

Yes. You're the only one.

Deberg_1990 01-19-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9332885)
Last Action Hero needs to be higher!

Used to watch the shit out of that when I was younger.

that movie has grown on me over the years. Its a little better than it was given credit for. It flopped and im not sure audiences were ready for a cynical/parody of action movies at the time.

Ceej 01-19-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9332903)
that movie has grown on me over the years. Its a little better than it was given credit for. It flopped and im not sure audiences were ready for a cynical/parody of action movies at the time.

I haven't seen it in years. But I always made an effort to see it when it was on.

I always enjoyed it too.

Fishpicker 01-19-2013 11:02 AM

Conan has no redeeming qualities? really? it has its flaws but come on. you didn't like the score by Basil Poledouris?

Hammock Parties 01-19-2013 11:22 AM

End of days is just cool for the artistry with which the film was made.

Frazod 01-19-2013 11:29 AM

The original Conan was directed by John Milius. The screenplay was written by Oliver Stone, a straight, unwaivering revenge story. It was beautifully shot, had high production values. They used actually quality Spanish swords instead of tin foil Hollywood props. The score by (Kansas City native) Basil Poledouris is one of the best in motion picture history. Much like Star Wars, the weaker principal performances were bolstered by talented supporting cast members, like James Earl Jones and Max Von Sydow. Do you really need an Oscar-caliber actor to play a pissed-off avenging barbarian? NO. Was it cheesy? Sure, but no more so that other Schwarzenegger films like Commando. It's not his worse movie - it's one of his best. It is far and away my favorite Arnie movie, and the only ones I'd acknowledge as being better overall films are Terminator, Terminator 2 and Predator.

And if you don't think so, and especially if you think it's worse than shit like the second Conan, Red Sonja or Batman and Robin, which were all absolutely horrific, you're ****ing reeruned.

Easy 6 01-19-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9332847)
Thread starter is the first person ive ever heard say or list Conan the Destroyer as better than Barbarian?? WTF?


Destroyer was pure cheeeese.

THIS.

That list sucks predator balls.

Easy 6 01-19-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9332980)
End of days is just cool for the artistry with which the film was made.

Definitely one of his best serious acting roles.

Deberg_1990 01-19-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9332997)
The original Conan was directed by John Milius. The screenplay was written by Oliver Stone, a straight, unwaivering revenge story. It was beautifully shot, had high production values. They used actually quality Spanish swords instead of tin foil Hollywood props. The score by (Kansas City native) Basil Poledouris is one of the best in motion picture history. Much like Star Wars, the weaker principal performances were bolstered by talented supporting cast members, like James Earl Jones and Max Von Sydow. Do you really need an Oscar-caliber actor to play a pissed-off avenging barbarian? NO. Was it cheesy? Sure, but no more so that other Schwarzenegger films like Commando. It's not his worse movie - it's one of his best. It is far and away my favorite Arnie movie, and the only ones I'd acknowledge as being better overall films are Terminator, Terminator 2 and Predator.

And if you don't think so, and especially if you think it's worse than shit like the second Conan, Red Sonja or Batman and Robin, which were all absolutely horrific, you're ****ing reeruned.


This.

Ever seen the reboot from a year or two ago? IM tempted, but heard it sucks.

ThaVirus 01-19-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9332597)
Am I the only person that absolutely hates Terminator 2? That movie sucked.

Wow, yes, you most certainly are the only one. Not only that, I now brand you village idiot for life. NO REDEMPTION.

Hammock Parties 01-19-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9332997)
The score by (Kansas City native) Basil Poledouris is one of the best in motion picture history. d.

They flat out do not score films like Basil Poledouris used to do it anymore.

It's a dead art. He's also dead.

I love his scores for Conan, Robocop, The Hunt for Red October and Starship Troopers. In fact his score for ST might be the best part of that film.

Fishpicker 01-19-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9333101)

Ever seen the reboot from a year or two ago? IM tempted, but heard it sucks.

It's incredibly bad. The opening scene is pretty funny though. Conan's mother and father are fighting in a battle. It's an every day kind of battle and the movie doesn't explain why they are there. Conan's mother is pregnant with Conan and is nearly due while she is fighting so she is a bit hampered. She gets herself cut up and she is going to die from bleeding out. Conan's father wants that baby though. He performs an emergency C-section with a very broad knife. He doesn't look away from his wife's eyes while he does it, he just pulls out a large blade and quickly stabs his wife in the vag then, saws her open. then the father reaches in and pulls Conan out. (he did all that and never looked down to see where he was cutting/stabbing) Once he pulls Conan out, the father holds Conan over his head to expose him to the elements so he will toughen up. Baby Conan and his loving dad then let out a battle cry, together.

that's fairly nonsensical but it's not the worst part of that movie.

Deberg_1990 01-19-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishpicker (Post 9333226)
It's incredibly bad. The opening scene is pretty funny though. Conan's mother and father are fighting in a battle. It's an every day kind of battle and the movie doesn't explain why they are there. Conan's mother is pregnant with Conan and is nearly due while she is fighting so she is a bit hampered. She gets herself cut up and she is going to die from bleeding out. Conan's father wants that baby though. He performs an emergency C-section with a very broad knife. He doesn't look away from his wife's eyes while he does it, he just pulls out a large blade and quickly stabs his wife in the vag then, saws her open. then the father reaches in and pulls Conan out. (he did all that and never looked down to see where he was cutting/stabbing) Once he pulls Conan out, the father holds Conan over his head to expose him to the elements so he will toughen up. Baby Conan and his loving dad then let out a battle cry, together.

that's fairly nonsensical but it's not the worst part of that movie.


ROFL

I have to watch this now.

ThaVirus 01-19-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishpicker (Post 9333226)
It's incredibly bad. The opening scene is pretty funny though. Conan's mother and father are fighting in a battle. It's an every day kind of battle and the movie doesn't explain why they are there. Conan's mother is pregnant with Conan and is nearly due while she is fighting so she is a bit hampered. She gets herself cut up and she is going to die from bleeding out. Conan's father wants that baby though. He performs an emergency C-section with a very broad knife. He doesn't look away from his wife's eyes while he does it, he just pulls out a large blade and quickly stabs his wife in the vag then, saws her open. then the father reaches in and pulls Conan out. (he did all that and never looked down to see where he was cutting/stabbing) Once he pulls Conan out, the father holds Conan over his head to expose him to the elements so he will toughen up. Baby Conan and his loving dad then let out a battle cry, together.

that's fairly nonsensical but it's not the worst part of that movie.

LMAO Yeah.. Pretty bad.

I thought the "born of battle" line was pretty cool though.

Hammock Parties 01-19-2013 03:10 PM

Holy shit that's awful. Sounds like the Arnold version is 100x better.

Mama Hip Rockets 01-19-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9332862)
Eraser?


Really?

True Lies kicked ass, and Predator should be 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.

Eraser is awesome, dude.

Easy 6 01-19-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9333379)
Holy shit that's awful. Sounds like the Arnold version is 100x better.

The new Conan is barely above a sci-fi channel movie, none of the magic or charm of the original.

mnchiefsguy 01-19-2013 11:32 PM

No way Conan the Barbarian a worse movie than Batman and Robin.

cosmo20002 01-20-2013 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9332597)
Am I the only person that absolutely hates Terminator 2? That movie sucked.

Probably. Well, if you don't count girls.

cosmo20002 01-20-2013 12:56 AM

Lots of insanity here, but the biggest offenders:

19. The Running Man (1987)
Should be higher

9. The Terminator (1984)
#9? That's just nuts.

4. Kindergarten Cop (1990)
Probably the best of the comdies, but #4 overall? :facepalm:

Rasputin 01-20-2013 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9332597)
Am I the only person that absolutely hates Terminator 2? That movie sucked.

Words that have never been said typed or thought by no one.

Rasputin 01-20-2013 03:38 AM

I don't know how many here have seen this, but I loved this movie. The Villain (1979) Really good cast of characters

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Those DAMN DRUMS LMAO

kcpasco 01-20-2013 10:37 AM

Ann Margaret was hot back then

RINGLEADER 01-20-2013 11:19 AM

Commando? Mark Lester is a friend but I could never get past Vernon Wells (Wez from Road Warrior) getting all huffy and throwing away his gun ("I don't need this!") before getting his neck busted by Ah-nold. One of the worst IMO.

Deberg_1990 01-20-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 9335029)
Commando? Mark Lester is a friend but I could never get past Vernon Wells (Wez from Road Warrior) getting all huffy and throwing away his gun ("I don't need this!") before getting his neck busted by Ah-nold. One of the worst IMO.

Heh, it's pretty corny and almost cartoon level of realism, but it's fun.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-20-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9332382)
If you put this list together on your own, kill yourself.

This.

penguinz 01-21-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9332382)
If you put this list together on your own, kill yourself.

x1000

PaulAllen 01-21-2013 05:06 PM

Might be one of the worst movie lists I've ever seen. Congratulations.


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