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DaKCMan AP 01-08-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9297869)
He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
2011 - 16th
2012 - 24th

Q you stupid douche

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2013 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barney Stinson (Post 9297892)
Not trying to argue for Ryan, but I want to see a better arguement than this one

Ryan sucked in Dallas. The Cowboys "weak link" was supposedly their secondary, so Jones signed Carr and drafted the highest rated "safe" corner in LSU's Morris Claiborne.

The result was that Dallas gave up even more points than the previous year.

Ryan sucks.

mcaj22 01-08-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9297869)
He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
2011 - 16th
2012 - 24th

2004 - Kerry Collins
2005 - Kerry Collins
2006 - Andrew Walter/Aaron Brooks
2007 - Josh McCown/Dante Culpepper/Jamarcus Russel
2008 - Jamarcus Russell
2009 - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
2010 - Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace/Jake Delhomme
2011 - Tony Romo
2012 - Tony Romo


I'm not defending the guy but, that is a perfect counter argument because it doesnt get more dog shit than that list of QBs, and I mean, we know first hand what a defense with a season of Brady Quinn gives you so, if anything, Chiefs fans should be able to relate to Rob Ryan

mcaj22 01-08-2013 07:58 PM

and Rob Ryan's coaches

Lane Kiffin, Eric Mangini, Jason Garrett

I know Rob Ryan sucks but holy shit he has been with some absolute trash Head Coaches/QB tandems for 90 percent of DC resume

Quesadilla Joe 01-08-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9297922)
2004 - Kerry Collins
2005 - Kerry Collins
2006 - Andrew Walter/Aaron Brooks
2007 - Josh McCown/Dante Culpepper/Jamarcus Russel
2008 - Jamarcus Russell
2009 - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
2010 - Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace/Jake Delhomme
2011 - Tony Romo
2012 - Tony Romo


I'm not defending the guy but, that is a perfect counter argument because it doesnt get more dog shit than that list of QBs, and I mean, we know first hand what a defense with a season of Brady Quinn gives you so, if anything, Chiefs fans should be able to relate to Rob Ryan

Some of the best defensive teams in NFL history have had shit QB play. I don't buy that argument.

BossChief 01-08-2013 08:00 PM

I want an attacking defensive coordinator. These players are all made to play downhill and dictate the tempo of the game and forcing bad decisions.

I want no part of Kiffen or Rob Ryan because neither is aggressive enough.

cabinet247 01-08-2013 08:02 PM

hell to the yes........back to the 4 -3

mcaj22 01-08-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9297942)
Some of the best defensive teams in NFL history have had shit QB play. I don't buy that argument.

not first round QB bust after first round QB bust shit QB play though

id like to see you make a career as a DC with Jamarcus Russel and Brady Quinn

DaKCMan AP 01-08-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9297922)
2004 - Kerry Collins
2005 - Kerry Collins
2006 - Andrew Walter/Aaron Brooks
2007 - Josh McCown/Dante Culpepper/Jamarcus Russel
2008 - Jamarcus Russell
2009 - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
2010 - Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace/Jake Delhomme
2011 - Tony Romo
2012 - Tony Romo


I'm not defending the guy but, that is a perfect counter argument because it doesnt get more dog shit than that list of QBs, and I mean, we know first hand what a defense with a season of Brady Quinn gives you so, if anything, Chiefs fans should be able to relate to Rob Ryan


Horseshit! The Cowboys put up over 23ppg which was 15th both years. That is not even in the same universe as the Chiefs 13ppg (31st & 32nd). Ryan fielded a below average defense with an average offense.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-08-2013 08:10 PM

Never made the playoffs in 9 seasons as a DC...?

Sounds like he will fit right in.

PHOG 01-08-2013 08:11 PM

No

Idahojim 01-08-2013 08:11 PM

The Ryans
 
He's just like his brother and his father. The Ryans are all about themselves. Chiefs don't need that. Just went through a G.M. who had the same problem. Showboat coaches need not apply.

SAUTO 01-08-2013 08:12 PM

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Mr_Tomahawk 01-08-2013 08:13 PM

Lovie Smith is #1 on my list if he cant find a HC gig.

PunkinDrublic 01-08-2013 08:18 PM

I hate Rob Ryan with a passion. The guy has been a career failure as a DC yet runs his mouth like he's the greatest ever. Lucky for us Reid won't be stupid enough to hire that self promoting fraud.


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