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Mr. Flopnuts 03-07-2013 06:18 PM

Car Problems: 1998 Lincoln Town Car Cartier
 
Weird. I've done quite a bit of work to this car. Alternator, both oxygen sensors, all 8 coil caps, and more. I have the NASCAR motor oil in it, and try and take really good care of it, but it's just coming apart at the seams it seems.

Car is losing power accelerating. Loses power going up hill, and I can floor it, it won't shift and get up and go. VERY strong smell of gasoline, and tonight started getting a lot of blue smoke. Don't think getting a code is going to work on this one. Any idears? TIA.

BlackHelicopters 03-07-2013 06:20 PM

A Stevie Ray Vaughn funeral may be in the offing for this car.

bevischief 03-07-2013 06:20 PM

Blinker fluid low?

bevischief 03-07-2013 06:21 PM

How many miles?

Mr. Flopnuts 03-07-2013 06:21 PM

238000

Ace Gunner 03-07-2013 06:22 PM

carburator.

Ace Gunner 03-07-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9474748)
238000

heh. RIP dolly. it was a nice run.

Chief Pote 03-07-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9474748)
238000

Let it go home to the car cemetery in the sky.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-07-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9474759)
heh. RIP dolly. it was a nice run.

Nah. Cars are known for going 400-500k and they are cheap and easy to work on.

CoMoChief 03-07-2013 06:24 PM

Time to set it on fire.......kick back and watch the ****er burn!!!

Ace Gunner 03-07-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9474763)
Nah. Cars are known for going 400-500k and they are cheap and easy to work on.

well then... carb.

BlackHelicopters 03-07-2013 06:25 PM

Willie the Wimp and his Town Car coffin.

TrebMaxx 03-07-2013 06:25 PM

Catalytic converter

FlaChief58 03-07-2013 06:25 PM

sounds like one of the cylinders is'nt firing causing the fuel smell. Is it injection or carb?

CoMoChief 03-07-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9474763)
Nah. Cars are known for going 400-500k and they are cheap and easy to work on.

ROFL this sounds like my grandfather

Gonzo 03-07-2013 06:26 PM

Sounds like valve guide seals or rings maybe.

Lol... You blew a seal.

philfree 03-07-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9474735)
Weird. I've done quite a bit of work to this car. Alternator, both oxygen sensors, all 8 coil caps, and more. I have the NASCAR motor oil in it, and try and take really good care of it, but it's just coming apart at the seams it seems.

Car is losing power accelerating. Loses power going up hill, and I can floor it, it won't shift and get up and go. VERY strong smell of gasoline, and tonight started getting a lot of blue smoke. Don't think getting a code is going to work on this one. Any idears? TIA.

Catalytic Converter clogged up?/repost

Mr. Flopnuts 03-07-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 9474779)
Sounds like valve guide seals or rings maybe.

Lol... You blew a seal.

http://iambrony.jsmart.web.id/mlp/gif/clappingseal.gif

FlaChief58 03-07-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 9474779)
Sounds like valve guide seals or rings maybe.

Lol... You blew a seal.

LMAO

Mr. Flopnuts 03-07-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9474782)
Catalytic Converter clogged up?/repost

I dunno, just came on over the last few days. We're gonna do some basic diagnostic and see if we can figure it out.

Gonzo 03-07-2013 06:31 PM

Try running some fuel additives. STP or BG... Something like that.
Get a compression test too. It could be just some fouled plugs or something simple but it sounds to me like the old girl might need some serious work.

bevischief 03-07-2013 06:45 PM

I have about 270,000 on my 97 Toyota pickup. She is ugly but runs.

seclark 03-07-2013 06:53 PM

i got a '72 gremlin. i think you can use it for parts on that townie.
shoot me a pm.:thumb:
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Bugeater 03-07-2013 08:32 PM

I have an oil filter from a 93 F-250 in my garage if you need it.

HoneyBadger 03-07-2013 08:34 PM

Contact Argo if you need a "new" car. I heard he has one to sell.

lewdog 03-07-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 9475200)
Contact Argo if you need a "new" car. I heard he has one to sell.

I don't think that is what he meant by having/providing "tranny" work....

SAUTO 03-07-2013 08:48 PM

Sure it the smoke is blue?


Does it smell sweet?
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SAUTO 03-07-2013 08:49 PM

But if the engine light comes on a code will point us in the right direction.


do you still have my info?
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SAUTO 03-07-2013 08:51 PM

If it's got coil packs I'm guessing it's early 2000s. 4.6l?
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FlaChief58 03-07-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9475256)
Sure it the smoke is blue?


Does it smell sweet?
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Serious question. Are you thinking antifreeze? I'm a decent shade tree mechanic and just curious what sweet smoke points to

SAUTO 03-07-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9475280)
Serious question. Are you thinking antifreeze? I'm a decent shade tree mechanic and just curious what sweet smoke points to

Yeah. I'm thinking maybe a blown head gasket.

White smoke not blue.


Ever tasted antifreeze?

If so it smells just like it tastes when burnt.
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Frosty 03-07-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9475280)
Serious question. Are you thinking antifreeze? I'm a decent shade tree mechanic and just curious what sweet smoke points to

He's telling Flopnuts' car to drink antifreeze. Next stop is an insurance claim after driving it into an AIDS tree.

Buehler445 03-07-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9474763)
Nah. Cars are known for going 400-500k and they are cheap and easy to work on.

Says the man with a broke ass car. :D

FlaChief58 03-07-2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9475313)
Yeah. I'm thinking maybe a blown head gasket.

White smoke not blue.


Ever tasted antifreeze?

If so it smells just like it tastes when burnt.
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That's what I thought as soon as you said "sweet". That would'nt cause the gas smell though, would it? Correct me if I'm wrong but, I figured fouled plug or injector.

HemiEd 03-08-2013 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 9474774)
Catalytic converter

Good call, that would be a very good possibility with that many miles.

Oh, and it doesn't have a carb to those that said that.:D

silver5liter 03-08-2013 02:08 AM

I hear Argo has a 1990 taurus for sale/sex

mikey23545 03-08-2013 02:56 AM

I have a 1996 Windstar van you could use to fix that old clunker.

Just tie your Lincoln to the rear bumper of my van and you can just pull the ol' piece of crap around.

mikey23545 03-08-2013 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9475231)
I don't think that is what he meant by having/providing "tranny" work....

LMAO

threebag 03-08-2013 05:14 AM

A vacationing penguin is driving through Arizona when he
notices that the oil-pressure light is on.* He gets out to
look and sees oil dripping out of the motor.* He drives to
the nearest town and stops at the first gas station.* After
dropping the car off, the penguin goes for a walk around
town.

He sees an ice-cream shop and, being a penguin in
Arizona, decides that something cold would really hit the
spot.* He gets a big bowl of vanilla ice cream and sits down
to eat.* Having no hands, he makes real mess trying to eat
with his little flippers.

After finishing his ice cream, he
goes back to the gas station and asks the mechanic if he's
found the problem.* The mechanic looks up and says, "It
looks like you´ve blown a seal."

"No, no," the penguin replies, "it's just ice cream."

SAUTO 03-08-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9475838)
That's what I thought as soon as you said "sweet". That would'nt cause the gas smell though, would it? Correct me if I'm wrong but, I figured fouled plug or injector.

usually if there is too much fuel it's going to have tons of black smoke.

Unless it's flooded so bad the fuel has filled the crank case all the way up and is forcing oil into the cylinders
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Saul Good 03-08-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9474735)
Weird. I've done quite a bit of work to this car. Alternator, both oxygen sensors, all 8 coil caps, and more. I have the NASCAR motor oil in it, and try and take really good care of it, but it's just coming apart at the seams it seems.

Car is losing power accelerating. Loses power going up hill, and I can floor it, it won't shift and get up and go. VERY strong smell of gasoline, and tonight started getting a lot of blue smoke. Don't think getting a code is going to work on this one. Any idears? TIA.

Didn't you just say you were planning on dropping $50k+ on a new Vette? WTF are you doing with this heap of shit if you've got that kind of coin to blow ona sled?

Radar Chief 03-08-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 9474779)
Lol... You blew a seal.

Oh no, that’s just snow in my mustache. /Eskimo

Bugeater 03-08-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9476269)
Didn't you just say you were planning on dropping $50k+ on a new Vette? WTF are you doing with this heap of shit if you've got that kind of coin to blow ona sled?

Heap of shit? It's a freaking Cartier, do you even know what that means?

loochy 03-08-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9474735)
Car Problems: 1998 Lincoln Town Car Cartier.

I suggest getting a good all season "CarTier". Goodyear is a decent brand.

But it's spelled "tire", not "tier" my friend.

Radar Chief 03-08-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9475313)
Yeah. I'm thinking maybe a blown head gasket.

White smoke not blue.


Ever tasted antifreeze?

If so it smells just like it tastes when burnt.
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Sounds like a compression/leak down test is in order.
Quick test I like is to use my spark plug to compressor adaptor, roll each cylinder around to TDC then pump compressed air to it and listen for leaks. It’ll lose some air to the crank case due to ring end gap but if it’s losing a lot it’s a broken ring(s). If it starts blowing bubbles in the radiator it’s a blown head gasket or cracked/warped head. If it starts blowing through the exhaust it’s a burnt exhaust valve, through the intake same song different verse.

Dave Lane 03-08-2013 08:40 AM

Good god the planet has gone to total crap...

http://www.recyclemore.com/sites/def...Antifreeze.gif

Saul Good 03-08-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9476397)
Heap of shit? It's a freaking Cartier, do you even know what that means?

According to KBB, it means it's worth about $3,500 once it's fixed assuming it's in very good condition. I don't know too many people who fix up a $3,500 car to park next to a $53,500 car.

TrebMaxx 03-13-2013 03:58 PM

So, Mr. Flopnuts. Did you find out what the problem was?

Mr. Flopnuts 03-13-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9476269)
Didn't you just say you were planning on dropping $50k+ on a new Vette? WTF are you doing with this heap of shit if you've got that kind of coin to blow ona sled?

LMAO Yeah, I also said I was going to **** Kate Upton once too. I don't generally finance anything I don't have too. Although I'm currently considering an exception. Certainly not on a 50k toy though.

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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 9494274)
So, Mr. Flopnuts. Did you find out what the problem was?

The engine took a shit. She was a beautiful car, but I'm not putting a new engine in a car worth less than 4k.

acesn8s 03-13-2013 04:09 PM

Sounds like your muffler bearings are loose.


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