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Saulbadguy 06-22-2012 10:05 PM

There isn't much you can do to stop this.

MMXcalibur 06-22-2012 10:15 PM

Welp, it was a good run...

BigRock 06-23-2012 04:21 AM

The OP article is dated mid-March. I just saw this a few weeks ago. The person who posted it usually knows his stuff, but I can't speak to the accuracy of it all.

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after all of the initial july 12th hooplah ended, it was pointed out that nobody actually said anything was going to happen on july 12. then in may reports came out that the summer in general was wildly optimistic and nothing's happening until at least the end of the year.

if you haven't already heard about it, the big implemention is the "six strikes" policy. but if you already download things, odds are good are that nothing's going to change for you.

the onus is still upon the companies being infringed to contact isps and alert them to their content being shared. or more specifically, those companies will hire an outside firm to do it for them. but when this was first talked about over a year ago, there were wild reports about isps installing software that would recognize copyrighted content regardless of where it was being downloaded from. um, no. someone still has to catch you.

the company catches your ip downloading their content, they contact your isp. your isp contacts you and lets you know. that's strike one. strikes two and three are the same, except after strike three you have to confirm to your isp that you received the notice.

after the third strike you run the risk of some form of punishment by your isp, like having your account throttled or temporarily disconnected. but your account isn't going to be cancelled, that's been clear since day one. why would the isp cancel your service? They want to make money. they have no reason to shut you off unless the riaa/mpaa starts suing the isps themselves. after six strikes, you won't even get notices anymore.

but continued strikes can open you up to the possibility of the content providers asking your isp for your information so they can sue you. no small potatos, but this has already been going on for years anyway.

like i said, this probably isn't going to change anything for you. if you're still living in 2003 and you download from public trackers with nothing but peer guardian to protect you, it's amazing you haven't been bombarded with legal letters already. if you fit this description, you will have to adapt.

just be smart. get on private trackers. by no means is that foolproof since people collecting ips can join private trackers too, but it's a lot safer than a public tracker. and if you're a heavy torrent user, you're a fool not to have a seedbox or vpn at this point.

i've stuck to private trackers with a vpn for years now, and on account of moving i've had 3 different isps since 2010, two of which are notorious for sending legal letters. but i've never gotten a single notification from anyone and i download games, software, movies, music, porn, and everything else you could think of.

incidentally, this effort is entirely focused on bittorrent. this will only increase the amount of content being uploaded to the free download places like rapidshare, and what was supposed to be a big wipeout of those sites after megaupload went down has come to a screeching hault. so if this scares you away from bt, focus your downloading on those sites for a while.

and it goes without saying that bittorrent will be replaced by new technology in the next year or two anyway, rendering a lot of this meaningless.

BigRedChief 06-23-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 8696600)
There isn't much you can do to stop this.

No shit. Privacy on the internet is an illusion. You are violating the TSA or doing something illegal, they can find out. They just wont push it too far as to not make everyone paroniod about big brother. But, thats the dirty little secret. Big Brother is already alive and thriving.

Demonpenz 06-23-2012 10:34 AM

i have already been buying stuff just because it is simple to just click on stuff on xbox live than search around on torrent sites and wondering if it will have german subtitles and all that shit.

DJJasonp 06-23-2012 07:15 PM

Better stock up on some fresh pron!

Bowser 06-23-2012 11:26 PM

Huh. I figured they already did this, anyway.

ReynardMuldrake 06-24-2012 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8696411)
How?

Private trackers + Peerblock + encryption turned on.

They can still monitor bandwidth usage and what IP you're connected to, obviously, but they can't see what you're doing with it.

BillSelfsTrophycase 06-24-2012 04:09 AM

No more free porn?


Viva la revolucion!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigRedChief 06-24-2012 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 8698130)
Private trackers + Peerblock + encryption turned on.

They can still monitor bandwidth usage and what IP you're connected to, obviously, but they can't see what you're doing with it.

Dude, its still a ****ing datagram, if the ISP and or the government wants to look at what is in that packet, they can easily. You are using an access point that they totally own. GEEEEZZZ :facepalm:

Mr. Laz 06-24-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 8698130)
Private trackers + Peerblock + encryption turned on.

They can still monitor bandwidth usage and what IP you're connected to, obviously, but they can't see what you're doing with it.

none of that does anything about your ISP ... they can see everything.

BigRedChief 06-24-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8698312)
none of that does anything about your ISP ... they can see everything.

Working with some of the best techs in the world the last two years has taught me that techs with a little bit of knowledge way overestimate their capabilites and underestimate the capabilites of others for say........... payback and subturfuge.

Pasta Giant Meatball 06-24-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BillSelfsTrophycase (Post 8698150)
No more free porn?


Viva la revolucion!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amateur streaming videos FTW

BryanBusby 06-25-2012 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8696411)
How?

Usenet on a SSL connection.

Imon Yourside 06-25-2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8699927)
Usenet on a SSL connection.

;)


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