While I think there are some flaws with Bruce, it is important to realize that their A) is no perfect coach. ****, Belichick, regarded as one of the more detailed and innovative defensive coaches has ****ing had horrible Ds since 2008.

B) I think Bruce deserves a shot as a HC after this year. Personally, I'd just like to see him on another team. If Kelly is gone, and the other candidates are about equal with Arians, I'd support the hire of a guy with a track record of developing QBs, despite there being several things I detest.

Finally, I agree. I'd like to hire someone younger as well.

Yup. I think he'd be an adequate stop-gap/consi prize. I'm not sure we reach a SB with Arians or he stays for a long time. However, having him could be exceptionally beneficial to Geno/Wilson.

WE LOVE ARIANS

I'm not an expert about who to bring in, but I do know one thing. We darn well need to bring in some quarterback guru who is proven at developing quarterbacks.

I disagree. I think what you want is a terrific motivator/leader/disciplinary head coach and an offensive coordinator who is a QB guru. Again, the part that bothers me most about Arians is the way he enabled Big Ben to become a spoiled brat, on and off the field. Geno seems like a good kid, but he also seems a little immature. You need a head coach who's going to be tough but fair, not a coach like Arians who will be your best friend even when you screw up.

This started when Bosschief said firing Haley was a mistake ...

you semi agreed with him by saying this:firing Haley wasn't Pioli's mistake, hiring him was

My concern with age is... the NFL is a close-knit community and when a guy coordinates for 10+ years, coordinates for one of the most respected franchises, and wins a super bowl... there's often a reason executives aren't knocking on your door.

There's only been one head coach who won a Super Bowl when his first head coaching gig was 50+ years old. Barry Switzer. There's a reason for that. Because when a guy under everyone's radar goes unnoticed for that long, there were probably red flags.

This decision will essentially let us know what we have in Hunt. Either he is a bottom-line type guy who listens to his constituents, or he is a sentimental and loyal fellow like his dad who can overlook failure to a point in order to give a person he likes and respects another shot to correct their errors. If it is the latter, we are in trouble...

there's nothing to stretch here but to deny the truth -- Pagano's team. Not Arians' call. To say Arians makes adjustments during games is like saying Luck plays well during the fourth qtr -- it's what these folks do and they do it under Pagano's plan. That's not extraordinary for them and it is the reason they are on Pagano's team.

As for the wins -- they are MOTR in all three phases. They caught the Vikes during a bad stretch, had a few breaks during other games. All will come back to earth for them against Houston.

Arians deserves a shot as HC somewhere. He's obviously going to get one since the HC pool has been so poor over the past 2 decades. Arians is a clever coach, not sure I'd say he's going to be a champ at HC though, but who knows. Especially with the league wide parity changes and NBA like rules etc, I guess any avg HC can go yard nowadays.

lol @ Laz being a McCluster fan.

This.

I'll ****ing eat all day from the Packers Tree.

I love this place.

CP basically goes nuts Clark hires Pioli, the majority of the FB world says, Good or Great Hire!

Pioli hires Todd Haley,CP basically goes nuts, the majority of the FB world says, Good or a Great hire. Up and coming new OC, great open offensive mind with SB experience.

Pioli gets Matt Cassel,many CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts about a QB that knows the Patriot Way.Many CP and Chief fans revolt, cuss, kick and scream because of Cassel's 1 year success and millions of dollars.

CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts over Haley & Pioli feuds,gum & candy wrappers, wire taps, etc .... Chiefs fans embarrassed by Pioli & Todd, blames Todd.

Kent Bab exposes Pioli,long after Whitlock feuds with Pioli ... CP & Chief fans wake up. Pioli is a dictator!

Now in the wake of Pioli may stay as long as he hires a new HC and gets a new ( finally a 1st rd ) QB ?

Chiefs fans are their own worst enemy when it comes to wanting something. It's damn easy to just accept and go with the flow and bitch along the way.

Haley did not suck as a head coach. You're just a butthurt little girl who apparently would gladly be somebody's puppet, rather than stand up and have some balls and dignity. The guy wasn't allowed to choose his own starting lineup for ****s sake.

BTW, McCluster is on pace to produce 300 yds less than last season.

Who's said Pioli could stay?

This.

I have yet to see one person say that.