If Pioli picks the next head coach, then it's a 2-man race between Ferentz and Josh McDaniels. You absolutely know that McDaniels thinks he could fix Cassel and more importantly, Scott Pioli thinks McDaniels could fix Cassel. Hell, Pioli probably doesn't even think Cassel needs fixing.

We're ****ed. Just plain ****ed.

I can't see Scott Pioli getting the opportunity to choose a 3rd Head Coach.

I think Del Rio fits KC well. He is a no nonsense coach who is also not an overbearing asshole like Haley was.

He can put together a great coaching staff as well. Just look at what his former DC (Mike Smith) and OC (Dirk Koetter) are doing down in Atlanta.

Give Del Rio a good GM and he could be a great HC in the NFL.

No retreads please. McCoy interests me, but he has touched the tree which is a big black eye for me.

As someone said when I posted that we would trade down and use the extra picks we recieve to trade for Ryan Mallet....FU for being right.

Coughlin, Belicheat, and Shanahan were retreads before winning a SB. A good HC isn't a good HC until he has a QB.

You were talking about those coaches who have franchise QBs generally do well in the league.

What do you call his time in Jacksonville? He oversaw the drafting of TWO first round QBs and hand-selected another (Garrard) during his LONG tenure as HC. This isn't like Belichick, where he was fired entirely too soon. The guy had chances and ****ed up.

He's what you get if Herm Edwards and Todd Haley had a baby. He's worthless.

Your evidence is overwhelming. Retread please.

I don't know how much say he had with the Gabbert pick...

He was kind of in the same position the Chiefs have been in the past 10 years... His teams were just good enough to miss out on the top QB prospects.

No, he will be starting for the Jets in a few weeks.

McDaniels will be here next year.


Bank it.

Peyton Manning?

HE'S RETIRED
and sorta busy on sunday

Never happen, but I like Kirby Smart.

Never ever happen

The answers in this thread so far pretty much reinforce why I wasn't opposed to Crennel getting the job. There are not many "must have" HC prospects out there right now. There's so much turnover in the coaching ranks, the up and coming coordinators are getting snatched up prematurely and failing because they don't build enough of a coaching identity to build winning by anything other than a coach-by-numbers copycat approach.

Of course, I didn't expect Crennel's shortcomings to show up in such a fast and furious manner. Nor did I expect him to be so utterly useless to the defense.

Steve Mariucci

Dennis Green

Brad Childress

????

thoughts

Trolling?

Herm edwards?

Dont go with a college coach imo

I expected it. Because again, people obsess over X's and O's. I told people months ago, Romeo is way too likable a guy to be a good head coach and he cares too much about the thinking part of the game to worry about conditioning.

The Chiefs have to stop hiring based on resume or fit with their offense or defense. They need to start interviewing good motivators, leaders, and teachers. You can find those if you look hard enough. And they're not always on elite defensive or offensive staffs. If you narrow the coaching pool down to your small tree, you're screwed.

We already had a poll on this.

:Lin:

Honestly, if you put a QB on this team that doesn't have a 3 & out or a turnover every other possession, I think you'd be surprised how much better this defense looks throughout the course of a game.

Does not excuse them for looking horrible on opening drives however. That is primarily due to teams throwing out of our base front (a 3-4, odd) and our failure to get a pass rush.

The talent is there.

Romeo does not know how to motivate and lead. He is good at the coordination stuff.

I really like the guy as a DC. He shouldn't have been hired as a head coach. He took the players out of the weight room and put them into the film room, and now they're soft. He skipped tackling drills and now our players forgot how to tackle. Our defense went from wanting to punch you in the throat to playing read-and-react. And we're making mental mistake after mental mistake. Our special teams, which are usually a testament to the discipline of your team, keeps making mental breakdowns.

While I agree with you, Romeo's still going to get the team to underperform.

The defense still shows flashes when they are in the game. Look at SDs first 3 drives after Charles scored. They clearly don't believe in Cassel and they become frustrated by his lack of production. It's not hard to understand, especially if you played football at some point defensively with a shitty offense.

I do agree that Romeo is not good in terms of instilling discipline. However, you get this team a QB that they believe in, the D will play like a top 10 team. ****, look at how they played with Kyle ****ing Orton.

Overall though Chiefzilla, good post.

There actually is. LMAO

Uhhhh, what is he doing?

I would agree with this.

But it has to be a new coach and QB. If we improve at QB, huge improvement, but the Chiefs become the Norv Turner Chargers. A team with the talent to go places, but a coach who just doesn't get enough out of his team to play to their potential consistently.

Id take Billick if he wasn't chillin'

Chiefzilla, I agree at this point. I think that if you had put a real QB with Crennel at the start of this season, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Sadly, I think he has to go after getting ****ed over by Cassel/Pioli.

Out of all the ex-coaches that are available, he'd be my choice if the Chiefs decided to go the retread route.

Unlike so many others that are hanging on to old glory by coaching in the UFL (Schottenheimer, Fassel, Green) or went to the broadcast booth (Gruden, Johnson & Cowher), Billick has stayed "in the game" by calling weekly games and having a coaches show on NFL Network.

That said, I'd rather bring in a highly experienced and sharp coordinator over a retread. But I think that the front office and player personnel/evaluation is FAR more important than a head coach.

Most of these guys are as smart as the next guy. It's who is on the field that's the final determination.

When I talk about young up-and-comers, here's a perfect example. I think Nick Sirianni is a rising star. He's probably not ready yet, but he has the potential to be a very good head coach a few years down the road.

There's got to be a young guy like Sirianni but with more experience under his belt on another team somewhere. Those are the guys we should be monitoring.

What makes you think that Nick Sirianni, who up until this season has been a paid intern, has the makings of a fine head coach?

Triple jump much?

Optimism and bias probably. I know plenty of people who worked as interns, OFQC, etc who I think would make good head coaches if given the opportunity. Doesn't mean they would; it means I would have confidence in them due to me personally knowing them. This probably isn't the case with Chiefzilla, although it could be.

Nick Sirianni needs about 5 more years in the NFL and a successful coordinating gig before anyone would even consider him for a head coaching position.

I had a dream a few weeks ago. In this very vivid dream. Lane Kiffin & his old man came & turned the Chiefs into a winner.

Yup. I can't recall personally a NFL HC being promoted from a position coach without spending time as a coordinator.

And to be honest, it doesn't make sense. Are there any HCs who didn't spend time as a coordinator currently in the NFL?

Well John Harbaugh was special teams does that count?

My thinking as well.
H e was the OC In Minny during the Denny years if I recall

Andy Reid

True.

Yup.

But he was a successful special teams coordinator with a long coaching resume.

He's a rare bird.

I said he was a guy to watch out for. I didn't say he was ready now.

And calling a Quality Control coach a paid intern is unbelievably short-selling what they do. They work insane hours and they're the ones who are really digging into the film and analyzing the data, not to mention the administrative side of head coaching. It's basically football bootcamp.

From everything I've heard, the guy is extremely well liked by players and coaches. He was basically Haley's right hand man and he even gave him some responsibility coaching QBs. As a WRs coach, he just seems to be a natural coach -- Haley toughness with a lot less of the dickheadedness. I'd rather take a good leader over a guy with great X's and O's experience.

No doubt.

I called Mike McCarthy when he was still a pissant intern with KC.

^^^This. OFQCs are the most under-appreciated and unknown coaches in the NFL. These guys come up with the game plans and are responsible for analyzing film throughout the entire season, usually working from 5AM-11PM.

Really? I knew Mac back in the day when he was at Baker but I never pegged him as an NFL head coach, at least not then.

Gregg Williams is available.

EDIT: But seriously, give me Vic Fangio.

Can we get a list of OFQCs that may be worthy of a HC?

I could live with Shaw. Especially if we get a 1st round QB.

I'm not sold

I'm not wanting a spread offense. This is a pure college coach.

Mike McCoy has only one claim to fame, the Tim Tebow offense. He would be good right now if the Chiefs would bench all QBs and run a wildcat with Charles but until that happens, this one is a no.

A DC with a DB background. I am not sure he could make the necessary calls on the offensive side of the ball.

I think these guys are just flash in the pans.

Holgorsen is a career college guy like Chip Kelly. Bumpas is nearing retirement age. The NFL may not be his cup of tea since he hasn't made the move yet.

Manny Diaz would be no more than a DC in the NFL and I'm not sure he could land that job til he had time with NFL defensive players (regardless of position).

Maybe a LB coach.

I brought up a few names in other threads. What do you think about someone like John Morton in San Fran or Gus Bradley in Seattle. Bradley is very intriguing to me. Apparently, monte kiffin was a heavy endorser and said he was a coach you can't miss out on.

Bradley is part of the Gruden tree. Has done well as of late but struggled early as DC. As for Morton, I think it would be too big of leap to go from a WR coach to HC in the NFL. Even with his OC background at USC I don't think he would be a SB winning HC at KC.