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OldSchool 02-26-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10455111)
You make it sound like Ekpre Olomu covered him one on one in the Civil War. The Ducks rolled their coverage towards Cooks and did everything they could to take him out of the game. They paid so much attention to Cooks, the Beavers were able to run at will, something they hadn't been able to do all season.

The Cal connections explains a lot. LMAO

On those plays he lined up with Olomu and it didn't matter who might have been way on top, he still failed to get separation when Olomu was sticking him. Against Terrence Mitchell, Cooks did significantly better. Sorry if Cooks isn't a #1 but he just isn't. I know you're a Beaver but don't be blinded. Cooks will be a tremendous slot player, I just don't think his home in the NFL is on the outside; at least, not if you want him to be as effective and successful as possible.

OldSchool 02-26-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10455128)
I have watched mostly highlights and reviews and not heard (or seen) that on Moncrief. Can you point me to something that demonstratights that?

The highlights I've seen show Mathews has some speed...but he was also hampered with a QB that really didn't have much of an arm. I see him adjusting his routes quite a bit.

Mixed bag vs Auburn. Yes, his QB sucks donkey.
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This is how pretty much all of his games are. Same inconsistency as Bowe.

Easy 6 02-26-2014 06:50 PM

Noir Robert may well be right about Cooks, he's watched the guy a lot more than I have, and his opinions seem informed... but I still believe Cooks can be, at the LEAST, an exceptional, game breaking #2.

Whats not being accounted for in his take is NFL level coaching ie; route running and hand skills... and old fashioned maturity that comes with time in the big leagues.

He may never be a true #1, but at worst he's a take it to the house 2 or 3 on any given play type of player... cuts on a dime, instant burst, top end speed... all ingredients for success at the next level.

Sorter 02-26-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10450864)
I know we need lots of help in other positions, but I'd like to draft two receivers from this class

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conten...o_dicaprio.gif

Frosty 02-26-2014 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10455770)
Noir Robert may well be right about Cooks, he's watched the guy a lot more than I have, and his opinions seem informed... but I still believe Cooks can be, at the LEAST, an exceptional, game breaking #2.

Whats not being accounted for in his take is NFL level coaching ie; route running and hand skills... and old fashioned maturity that comes with time in the big leagues.

He may never be a true #1, but at worst he's a take it to the house 2 or 3 on any given play type of player... cuts on a dime, instant burst, top end speed... all ingredients for success at the next level.

Here's a shot of Ekpre-Olomu (14) shutting down Cooks in the Civil War:

http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-conte...-respect-1.png


This play against the Huskies was sick:

http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-conte.../Cooks-YAC.gif

Sorter 02-26-2014 07:11 PM

Don't know how you could be upset with Cooks or Beckham.

Frosty 02-26-2014 07:12 PM

Oh, and this is why OldBob doesn't like Cooks:

http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-conte...ooks-YAC-2.gif


:)

OldSchool 02-26-2014 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10455804)
Here's a shot of Ekpre-Olomu (14) shutting down Cooks in the Civil War:

http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-conte...-respect-1.png

Sure, take a screen shot and post it as proof. On that play cooks was lined up across the field from Ekpre Olomu, his coaches knew that he couldn't get open against Olomu so they tried to line him up against Terrence Mitchell instead. But what happened on that play was Cooks ran a deep post and Olomu had deep thirds on his side and saw where the QB was looking so he ran over to help defend the pass from across the field. Again, Cooks couldn't get open when lined up against Olomu. The only receptions he got when lined up against Olomu was the first dig route and then a few quick screen stuff. He couldn't get open on a route past 10 yards on Olomu. And I could care less about the Bears right now, we suck even worse without Tedford. You realize that we had virtually the worst defense in all of college football in 2013 right?

I say that Cooks couldn't get open on the outside against a NFL starting level corner and you go post a clip of Cooks facing Practice Squad, at best, level players. And wtf is Bob?

OldSchool 02-26-2014 07:31 PM

This pretty much sums up Cooks vs Olomu.

http://dailyemerald.com/wp-content/u....OSU_.0461.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...wyVGyeM2EPsPMQ

Frosty 02-26-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10455845)
Sure, take a screen shot and post it as proof.

I was reading an article on Philly.com about Cooks and saw that. I just posted it to give you some shit. Lighten the **** up, man.

Easy 6 02-26-2014 07:55 PM

End result of these most recent posts... I'll be absolutely thrilled with Cooks, but if they decide to go taller/slightly more longstrider, I'll still be happy.

Just gimme some damn upgrades, big and leapy, short and squirty... just do some IMPROVING... its honestly tough trying to figure out what Reid and co. want in this first real (scouting department fully enrolled) draft of the regime.

Extremely interesting draft no matter what happens, gah I cant wait... football is life.

Frosty 02-26-2014 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10455898)
End result of these most recent posts... I'll be absolutely thrilled with Cooks, but if they decide to go taller/slightly more longstrider, I'll still be happy.

Just gimme some damn upgrades, big and leapy, short and squirty... just do some IMPROVING... its honestly tough trying to figure out what Reid and co. want in this first real (scouting department fully enrolled) draft of the regime.

Extremely interesting draft no matter what happens, gah I cant wait... football is life.

Like I said before, I am not pushing for the Chiefs to take Cooks. I'm mostly just hoping he doesn't go to the Raiders or Broncos. That would suck.

OldSchool 02-26-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10455911)
Like I said before, I am not pushing for the Chiefs to take Cooks. I'm mostly just hoping he doesn't go to the Raiders or Broncos. That would suck.

Yeah, we already have enough trouble dealing with Welker in the slot and guys like TY Hilton. I hope that Dorsey realizes that sometimes fast and slightly smaller is better than big and slower.

OldSchool 02-26-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10455876)
I was reading an article on Philly.com about Cooks and saw that. I just posted it to give you some shit. Lighten the **** up, man.

NEVER!:)

But seriously, if Beckham, Lee, and Evans are all gone, I would want Cooks if we were going to take a receiver there. Reid found a way to milk McCluster for 53 receptions and 511 yards in his first season here. What would he do with Brandin Cooks in Dexter's old role? :drool:

Ragged Robin 02-26-2014 09:01 PM

Trade down and pick up Matthews and Abbrederis. 'nuff said


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