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King_Chief_Fan 01-31-2013 09:30 AM

Define success / failure for the 2013 season
 
In your opinion what defines success for the KC Chiefss 2013?

Any record better than 2-14

Any record 8-8 or better

At least a playoff spot

A playoff win

Mr. Flopnuts 01-31-2013 09:32 AM

Drafting a QB at #1. That's it. At least for me.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-31-2013 09:33 AM

The reason I say that is because if the rookie struggles, I understand. It happens. It can affect how many games you win. For this year, I just want to see the top stud college field general behind center. That's it.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-31-2013 09:34 AM

Would it be reasonable to project our quarterback as a franchise QB?

If yes, pass. If no, fail.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 09:34 AM

I want to draft a QB at #1. After that, I want to see improvement on offense. I don't really care about wins at this point - I just want to see an offense that isn't historically pathetic.

That being said, if we bring in someone like Alex Smith and make him the starter, I expect a playoff berth. Period. No excuses.

ChiTown 01-31-2013 09:34 AM

A playoff win. Gawdamnit, is that too much to ask for one win every 18-20 years?

suds79 01-31-2013 09:35 AM

KC can partly define success this year by identifying & drafting a QB this offseason. If they do that, get a guy we all believe could be capable of winning a SB someday, then it doesn't matter as much what we do this year.

But speaking strictly this year on record? Hmm... Coming from 2-14 and playing a rookie QB? I'd say anything more than 8-8 would be a big success.

loochy 01-31-2013 09:35 AM

I can't tell you right now and I can't define it, but I'll know it when I see it.

Deberg_1990 01-31-2013 09:37 AM

There were 6 or 7 games where if we would have scored a TD or 2 more, we could have won or made things interesting. basically 14 points or less. So if we get just decent QB play and coaching, i think we could win 7 or 8 games next season at the bottom end. I would be happy with that.

A Salt Weapon 01-31-2013 09:48 AM

New QB, 10+ wins, playoff appearance, playoff win would be great.
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the Talking Can 01-31-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9367164)
Drafting a QB at #1. That's it. At least for me.

bingo

Rausch 01-31-2013 09:50 AM

Franchise QB that isn't from the fail castoff heap from somewhere else...

mdchiefsfan 01-31-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9367164)
Drafting a QB at #1. That's it. At least for me.

This. I expect some lumps and bruises to be associated with a rookie QB and understand RGIII and Luck type impacts on teams are a rare occurrence. If it happens, I'll be pumped though.

AdumbGuy 01-31-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9367174)
I can't tell you right now and I can't define it, but I'll know it when I see it.

I'll be honest, I don't know how I feel about chiefs porn.

DMAC 01-31-2013 09:52 AM

Success is winning the Super Bowl. Failure is not winning the Super Bowl.

Rasputin 01-31-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9367164)
Drafting a QB at #1. That's it. At least for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9367165)
The reason I say that is because if the rookie struggles, I understand. It happens. It can affect how many games you win. For this year, I just want to see the top stud college field general behind center. That's it.

This. For me too. I don't curr any other way will just piss me off.


If by chance they don't draft one of the top two QBs with the first pick and we don't have a stud QBotf from the draft this year I may as well mail in all my Chiefs gear to Clark Hunt and send a message that I'm done supporting them until they get it right.

Fat Elvis 01-31-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AdumbGuy (Post 9367202)
I'll be honest, I don't know how I feel about chiefs porn.

We got ****ed by ***** the past four years; how did you feel about that?

Rausch 01-31-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9367223)
We got ****ed by ***** the past four years; how did you feel about that?

I want to go shower with steel wool and Lava soap and have a good long cry...

Fat Elvis 01-31-2013 10:01 AM

I want a QB that fits Reid's and Dorsey's vision of a franchise QB. I want an aggressive defense. I want top notch special teams play. I want a team that hates losing.

loochy 01-31-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AdumbGuy (Post 9367202)
I'll be honest, I don't know how I feel about chiefs porn.

its hawt.

Rausch 01-31-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9367240)
I want a QB that fits Reid's and Dorsey's vision of a franchise QB. I want an aggressive defense. I want top notch special teams play. I want a team that hates losing.

I want both an offense and defense that attacks...

htismaqe 01-31-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9367240)
I want a QB that fits Reid's and Dorsey's vision of a franchise QB.

If that QB is Alex Smith or some other free agent starter, they better get to the playoffs.

No excuses.

AdumbGuy 01-31-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9367247)
I want both an offense and defense that attacks...

Yeah, I'm not going to expect them to win a superbowl next year with a rookie, but this is important. Always hate watching read and react defenses.

AdumbGuy 01-31-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9367245)
its hawt.

****in' A, I'll take two then!

Dayze 01-31-2013 10:15 AM

Re-Sign Bowe or Albert
Draft a QB who can start either immediately, or by mid-season
Acquire a backup in FA
draft a late round QB flier
implement the offensive and defensive schemes ASAP in OTAs etc
Dump Cassel
Dump Quinn
Dump Stanzi
Get Baldwin's ass in gear, or get him hittin' the bricks. and let him know this.
Draft a Safety



...there so much shit to do lol.

The Franchise 01-31-2013 10:18 AM

Superbowl

HemiEd 01-31-2013 10:21 AM

Just 3 major things.

1) A Chiefs drafted QB behind center, even if it is Stanzi. I would prefer one from this draft, but I don't want to see a recycled failure from another team, period, or I am done for a while. Enough is enough, stop it dammit!

2) Coaching that is capable of getting the most out of these guys. I suspect this is a done deal, with the Andy Reid and staff hire, but I still want to see it. There was plenty of talent on this team to be above average, but the coaching was so bad, they are picking number one. Six pro bowlers, and picking first, that is very telling.

3) Cassel and Quinn gone from the roster, so all doubt and temptation is removed.

RyFo18 01-31-2013 10:43 AM

Success would be me not having to turn a game off early in the 4th quarter. I can look past the record in the regime's first year, but it can't be too bad if they're competitive game in and game out.

FlaChief58 01-31-2013 10:50 AM

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1-5 wins = fail
6-9 wins = success
10+ wins =

bevischief 01-31-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9367240)
I want a QB that fits Reid's and Dorsey's vision of a franchise QB. I want an aggressive defense. I want top notch special teams play. I want a team that hates losing.

This.

Sorter 01-31-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9367168)
Would it be reasonable to project our quarterback as a franchise QB?

If yes, pass. If no, fail.

this

keg in kc 01-31-2013 11:48 AM

Impossible to say without knowing what the roster looks like. The first step should should be quarterback, of course. I'll be extremely disappointed if they don't take one in the 1st round, but there are other ways to go behind center, even if I think they're the wrong ways. After that, if they don't think any players are salvageable outside of the obvious ones and take a scythe to the roster, we're probably looking at 6 or fewer wins. If they think they can build on what's here, then we should see 8 or more.

Since they're sticking with the 3-4, my guess is we're not going to see re-building.

Either way, wins or losses aside, success for me will be putting a competitive product on the field and being a better team in week 17 than in week 1. That's really it.

The Franchise 01-31-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9367521)
Impossible to say without knowing what the roster looks like. The first step should should be quarterback, of course. I'll be extremely disappointed if they don't take one in the 1st round, but there are other ways to go behind center, even if I think they're the wrong ways. After that, if they don't think any players are salvageable outside of the obvious ones and take a scythe to the roster, we're probably looking at 6 or fewer wins. If they think they can build on what's here, then we should see 8 or more.

Since they're sticking with the 3-4, my guess is we're not going to see re-building.

Either way, wins or losses aside, success for me will be putting a competitive product on the field and being a better team in week 17 than in week 1. That's really it.

Improved coaching and a last place schedule should at least get us to 8-8.

BossChief 01-31-2013 11:58 AM

I want to see us draft a quarterback at 1.1 and for his last 6 games to be noticeably better than his first 6 games.

That's pretty much it and if we can do that, I can see this team getting one of the wildcards.

keg in kc 01-31-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9367542)
Improved coaching and a last place schedule should at least get us to 8-8.

As I know you know, "last place schedule" is something that's gone the way of a dodo bird. It's 2 games difference.

My main point was that if they bring in 45 new guys, they probably won't win many games. History tells us that, regardless of who's on the coaching staff.

(I don't think they'll do that, though)

warpaint* 01-31-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9367165)
The reason I say that is because if the rookie struggles, I understand. It happens. It can affect how many games you win. For this year, I just want to see the top stud college field general behind center. That's it.

Struggle is one thing. If he looks like Ryan Leaf it wouldn't be a success to me. Drafting a QB high is a prerequisite for the off-season being successful I certainly agree w/ that.

warpaint* 01-31-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9367168)
Would it be reasonable to project our quarterback as a franchise QB?

If yes, pass. If no, fail.

^^^^^^^

I don't care what the record is, if the answer to this question is yes the future will be promising.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-31-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 9367716)
Struggle is one thing. If he looks like Ryan Leaf it wouldn't be a success to me. Drafting a QB high is a prerequisite for the off-season being successful I certainly agree w/ that.

We've seen some QB's get drafted and come in and have instant success. I'm not going to jump off a bridge if that doesn't happen for our guy, but if he looks like Ryan Leaf I will almost assuredly be high on pain pills for the last 6 games of the year.

warpaint* 01-31-2013 01:05 PM

You and me both. I am w/ what you are saying.

O.city 01-31-2013 01:06 PM

No players committing murder would be a good start







Too soon?

saphojunkie 01-31-2013 01:19 PM

This is what I define as success for 2013:

Drafting one of the first two QBs taken in this draft. If that is Geno or Wilson at 1.1, I'm happy as a clam. If that means we traded down, got an extra couple high draft picks, and still got a guy I would have been happy with at 1.1, even better. If that means that we got a guy at #34 that I would have been happy with at 1.1, then we just ****ed the league, and rock on. But I don't want the 6th QB taken. I know that works sometimes (Kaepernick, Wilson, Brady) but I don't want it.

Resign Bowe.

Resign Albert.

Win at least 6 home games.

Average margin of defeat. I think this was the biggest glaring weakness. I don't want to see any blowouts. None. No games lost by two touchdowns or more.

tooge 01-31-2013 01:22 PM

For me it's QB with the first pick, or a trade back but still in the top 10 and still a QB with the pick. After that, improved coaching that leads us to at least 7 wins


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