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BigCatDaddy 05-03-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus the True (Post 9654694)
I was expecting this and figured people like you would read just the beginning and then take off with it before getting to the point of the article. Its no suprise you would think what you posted was the point of it.



From the same article -

While the amateurs had doubts, the “professional” draft analysts were dead on with Flacco. The Scouts Inc analysis pegged him. “Big-time arm”that was “a notch below…JaMarcus Russell.” “Trusts his arm too much at times, which leads to critical errors throwing the ball into traffic.”

A notch below Jamarcus. Nice going fellas!

His arm was never the question. It was playing against shit opponents and playing out of the gun, oh and getting beat out by Tyler Palko didn't help either.

Lex Luthor 05-03-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 9654284)
I realize that this is difficult for someone of your intelligence level to understand.

I wanted us to draft Geno. That was an opinion. I thought that he offered the best upside for our franchise of any player in the draft. I had an avatar of him throughout this entire ordeal. However, we didn't draft him. Neither did 31 other teams who had a chance to do so, with many of those teams having more than one chance to do so.

I'm not stubborn enough to just brush that off and think that there's some kind of conspiracy against the kid or that I know something from watching him throw the football on the TV a few times that these guys who have broken down every singe snap of his, held him for private workouts, interviewed him and those close to him, and done exhaustive research don't know.

That would be dumb. You're being dumb, which should come as no surprise to anyone who has ever read any of your posts, under any of your ridiculous monikers.

Also, I will not be cheering for him, even though I wanted to draft him. He plays for another team. I have no allegiance to the Jets, and don't care to root for their QB. I hope he fails miserably, just as I hope that 31 other QBs in the NFL fail miserably.

And his pouting certainly falls right in line with why many were questioning his leadership and if he should be a first round QB. I thought it wasn't important. I was pretty turned off by his pouting during the draft coverage and then his finger pointing immediately after. Those are things that we fans don't generally get to see as many of those things happen behind closed doors, which is probably why many GMs weren't interested in drafting him.

Excellent post. It's too bad BigCatDaddy is too ****ing stupid to understand it.

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 9654287)
And by the way, I probably will go back to my "hidey-hole." As I've told several posters who have PMd me asking why I don't get involved in the football discussions much anymore, it's because of idiots like you who post the same drivel in every thread. This place is infested with idiots, and those idiots, like yourself, lack basic common sense and intelligence. It is impossible to read through the same idiotic posts in every single thread. And it certainly isn't worth trying to post a sensible thought in that thread.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9654306)
You'll be greatly missed. Bye now.
Posted via Mobile Device

Doomy3 should stay. The chocolate penii ball washers should go. They are now making total jackasses out of themselves.

BigCatDaddy 05-03-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9654783)
Excellent post. It's too bad BigCatDaddy is too ****ing stupid to understand it.





Doomy3 should stay. The chocolate penii ball washers should go. They are now making total jackasses out of themselves.

Hey you little bitch. When Geno is passing for more 300 yard games in his rookie season than Alex has in his 80 game career you can lick my taint. It's going to be so awesome watching Alex Smiff fall flat on his sorry ass.

Hootie 05-03-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9654840)
Hey you little bitch. When Geno is passing for more 300 yard games in his rookie season than Alex has in his 80 game career you can lick my taint. It's going to be so awesome watching Alex Smiff fall flat on his sorry ass.

Yeah it'll be real awesome to watch our starting QB suck...my God people

Easy 6 05-03-2013 10:19 AM

The recriminations are pointless, he's a Jet, move on...

MahiMike 05-03-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9652212)
Ok I'll do it then since you're all having too much fun circle jerking. Also because I'm curious.

Going back to 2000, here's the next QB that was taken after the Chiefs drafted. I think this is a much more fair measure than just picking the best QB in hindsight. I mean I know you're all brilliant GMs who definitely wanted Freeman over Sanchez at the time, but let's stick to what NFL GMs who actually spent approx. infitily more time analyzing the players came up with. I also listed the QBs we could have potentially traded up for, and the ones who were out of reach.

2012 1.11 Dontari Poe NT Memphis
Next QB: 1.22 Brandon Weeden
Prev QBs (we could have possibly traded up for): 1.8 Ryan Tannehill, 1.2 RGII (if we give away the farm)
Out of reach: 1.1 Luck

2011 1.26 Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
Next QB: 2.35 Andy Dalton
Prev possible QBs: 1.8 Jake Locker, 1.10 Blaine Gabbert, 1.12 Christian Ponder (any of those would have probably cost a 2012 #1, also barf)
Out of reach: 1.1 Cam Newton

2010 1.5 Eric Berry SS Tennessee
Next QB: 1.25 Tim Tebow
(ok I'll grant McDaniels is insane, next QB after that? 2.48 Jimmy Clausen)
Prev possible QBs: None
Out of reach: 1.1 Bradford

2009 1.3 Tyson Jackson DE Louisiana State

Next QB: 1.5 Mark Sanchez (Freeman after that)
Prev possible QBs: None
Out of reach: 1.1 Stafford

2008 1.5 Glenn Dorsey DT Louisiana State
Next QB: none until we draft again
2008 1.15 Branden Albert T Virginia
Next QB: 1.18 Joe Flacco (considered a big reach by most, but yeah a very good argument for "reaching" for a QB)
Prev possible QBs: None
Out of reach: 1.3 Ryan

2007 1.23 Dwayne Bowe WR Louisiana State
Next QB: 2.36 Kevin Kolb
Prev possible QBs: 1.22 Brady Quinn
Out of reach: 1.1 JaWalrus (dammit!)

2006 1.20 Tamba Hali DE Penn State

Next QB: 2.49 Kellen Clemens
Prev possible QBs: 1.10 Matt Leinart, 1.11 Jay Cutler
Out of reach: 1.3 Vince Young

2005 1.15 Derrick Johnson LB Texas
Next QB: 1.24 Aaron Rodgers
Prev possible QBs: None
Out of reach: 1.1 Alex Smith

2004 2.36 Junior Siavii
Next QB: 3.90 Matt Schaub (damn)
Prev possible QBs: 1.22 JP Lossman, 1.11 Big Rape (maybe if we trade a #1)
Out of reach: 1.1 Eli, 1.4 Rivers

2003 1.27 Larry Johnson RB Penn State
Next QB: 3.88 Dave Ragone
Prev possible QBs: 1.19 Kyle Boller, 1.22 Rex Grossman, 1.7 Byron Leftwich (maybe for a #1)
Out of reach: 1.1 Carson Palmer

2002 6 Ryan Sims DT North Carolina
Next QB: 1.32 Patrick Ramsey
Prev possible QBs: 1.3 Joey Harrington
Out of reach: 1.1 David Carr

2001 3.75 Eric Downing DT Syracuse
Next QB: 4.106 Chris Wienkie
Prev possible QBs: 2.1 Drew Brees, 2.53 Quincy Carter, 2.59 Marques Tuiasosopo (guessing not drafted as QB?)
Out of reach: 1.1 Michael Vick,

2000 1.21 Sylvester Morris WR Jackson State
Next QB: 3.65 Giovanni Carmazzi
Prev possible QBs: 1.18 Chad Pennington (I'm sure everyone here was screaming for Tom Brady at 6.199)
Out of reach: None


All in all there's a lot of crap out there. I'm not saying I'm happy with the Chiefs by any means. But I think it's easy to cherry pick the spots like Flacco, Rodgers, Freeman and Brees, and forget about all the ones we dodged like butt-fumble, Jafatass, Young, Quinn, Jason Campbell, Clausen, etc. or all the years there just wasn't crap to pick from (like many are predicting for this year).

Well done. :clap:

Pitt Gorilla 05-03-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9654840)
It's going to be so awesome watching Alex Smiff fall flat on his sorry ass.

Why?

BigCatDaddy 05-03-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9654870)
Yeah it'll be real awesome to watch our starting QB suck...my God people

It's become a way of life. I've been reduced to rooting for a complete flop of Carl Peterson to Herm Edwards to Matt Cassell to Scott Pioli to Romeo in a hope for real substantial positive change. Alex Smith is just the next link in that chain.

BigCatDaddy 05-03-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9654887)
Why?

I explain above. Rooting for failure in hope for a change that may lead to success.

BourbonMan 05-03-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9654898)
It's become a way of life. I've been reduced to rooting for a complete flop of Carl Peterson to Herm Edwards to Matt Cassell to Scott ***** to Romeo in a hope for real substantial positive change. Alex Smith is just the next link in that chain.

Your choice to be a FAN...BRO.

Lightrise 05-03-2013 11:36 AM

Wow, it was even worse than my instincts told me it was. I never could shake Vince Young visions and this strongly suggests why his coaches couldn't get him out of the pocket. He won't listen.

Mr. Laz 05-03-2013 11:45 AM

Geno is a now a jet ... **** him, i hope he sucks.

Mr. Laz 05-03-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9653520)
Next years QB class looks to have a lot of quality.

Teddy Bridgewater
AJ McCarron
Tajh Boyd
Aaron Murray
David Fales



And then Johnny Football, but I wouldn't want him.

Lots of quality options at this point.

McCarron ... really?

isn't Boyd a smurf?

Pitt Gorilla 05-03-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9654902)
I explain above. Rooting for failure in hope for a change that may lead to success.

Why not root for success because, you know, it would actually be success?

BigCatDaddy 05-03-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BourbonMan (Post 9655009)
Your choice to be a FAN...BRO.

/Deb Deitweiler


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