Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10143982)

Except that it had an effect on MY obesity rate, so all of your info is completely pointless, and completely wrong.

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 10143777)

The problem of diabetes and health issues would remain if you closed every single McD's in the country. That's the point you're missing. It's not the access to a particular food that's the problem. It's the fact that people don't care. You can't make people eat healthy food by attempting to remove all the unhealthy food. That doesn't work, and that will never work. Fatties don't eat at McD's all the time because they don't have access to healthy food alternatives. They absolutely do, even within McD's itself.

You keep harping that people are being tricked, and they don't know that what they eat is unhealthy. But that's BS. The nutritional info is always available for everything they serve, for those that want to find out. What else do you want? A popup disclaimer every time somebody orders a Big Mac and large fries and coke that says "Hey fatty, you sure you know how many calories that is?" Come on.....

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10143873)

By the way, as someone who has Celiac Disease and has to know what's in his food, I am all for full disclosure labeling, both in the store and in restaurants. I also like calorie info at restaurants because it makes it easier to figure out how to make food more reasonable (for example, leaving the mayo off of a Whopper cuts more calories than you would think).

I just wish people would educate themselves more on what really matters and not just freak out because some Internet or TV guru tells them they should.

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10144229)

I see a 10 piece McNugget in my very near future.

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10143844)

No and I rarely eat there. I just know that if you eat decently most of the time occasional forays into fast food or junk food isn't going to hurt you assuming you don't gorge yourself. That's all I was saying.

Watch the first half of the documentary "Fat Head" sometime. It was an answer to "Supersize Me", where the film maker ate every meal at McD's except didn't stuff himself like Morgan Spurlock did. He lost weight and had his health markers (BP, cholesterol, etc) improve.

Then there was the nutrition professor that put himself on the Twinkie Diet and ate mostly junk food for 10 weeks (but kept the calories low - 1800/day) and lost weight and had his health markers improve.

I don't advocate (and have never said) to eat at McD's or eat junk food all of the time. Eating a mostly whole food diet is what I think is healthful (and what I strive for). However, if I'm on the road and choose to eat at fast food place due to time/cost, I don't freak the **** out about like some apparently do.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10143982)

Except that it had an effect on MY obesity rate, so all of your info is completely pointless, and completely wrong.

Originally Posted by Grim (Post 10144252)

As a Celiac, do you eat at restaurants often? No fears of cross-contamination?

Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 10144303)

As for the Twinky Diet guy, anyone can lose weight by maintaining a low calorie diet as he did. Weight loss alone will improve many health markers. Again, he is missing out of important nutrients that he'd get from real foods so that twinkie died wouldn't be a great option long term.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10144189)

You're an idiot.

Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 10144339)

I'm pretty sure that was a joke.

Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 10144328)

:thumb: This is awesome in so many ways.

Although, if you're being serious, it might be a good idea to increase your statistical sample population to a number larger than just yourself.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10144256)

Get 20. Use all the sauces. Get a large fry, large soft drink and a double quarter pounder, too.

Then post about it as you eat. Sapho's head will explode.

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10144381)

Only if i can replace the coke with a milkshake, then we're talkin.