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DaneMcCloud 07-29-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9843530)
Really? Name one.

Tom Brady

Anyong Bluth 07-29-2013 04:44 PM

No, dude hasn't shown he's ascending, and doesn't face turmoil well- constantly bickering with teammates and opposing players & is just as much a source of fault as the rest of his team, but inspires no leadership and decides instead to pout. Alex may not be "the" guy, but I'll pass on River's lack of production that comes with his piss poor attitude.

GoChargers 07-29-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9843530)
Really? Name one.

Brady led a team with Reche Caldwell and 35-year-old Troy Brown as his top recievers to the AFC title game.

Eli, Brees, Flacco, and Rodgers have all won Super Bowls recently with O-lines that were at best subpar.

MTG#10 07-29-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9843531)
Tom Brady

When did Tom Brady have a shit O-line?

Hammock Parties 07-29-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9843531)
Tom Brady

Tom Brady's offensive line has always been at least adequate throughout his career, and the same goes for his running game.

He's certainly NEVER dealt with the conditions Rivers did last year. 31st in YPC? 49 sacks? Come on.

Sorter 07-29-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9843539)
Brady led a team with Reche Caldwell and 35-year-old Troy Brown as his top recievers to the AFC title game.

Eli, Brees, Flacco, and Rodgers have all won Super Bowls recently with O-lines that were at best subpar.

I feel like sometimes, we forget just how bad Rogers OL was/is. Now, it isn't Chicago but you cant help but watch and cringe sometimes.


As opposed to bears games where all you do is cringe watching the OL play.

keg in kc 07-29-2013 04:52 PM

You can add Roethlisberger to the bad o-line list too. They were awful the year they beat the cards in the superbowl, and were bad for years after.

DaneMcCloud 07-29-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9843542)
When did Tom Brady have a shit O-line?

I don't believe that San Diego's line has been as bad as advertised.

Rivers lost his best receiver, his running back has been garbage and Antonio Gates play completely dropped off in 2012. The Chargers have had just an average wide receiving corp since Jackson's departure.

Personally, I think it has to do more with the fact that Rivers is declining, the players tuned out Norv and the personnel decisions have been poor.

Sorter 07-29-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9843550)
You can add Roethlisberger to the bad o-line list too. They were awful the year they beat the cards in the superbowl, and were bad for years after.

Forgot about them. I suppose you could add tue Warner led Cards as well, sans Faneca

Hammock Parties 07-29-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9843551)
I don't believe that San Diego's line has been as bad as advertised.

Then it's apparent you don't even watch Chargers games.

That team was trotting out Jared Gaither at LT.

DaneMcCloud 07-29-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9843550)
You can add Roethlisberger to the bad o-line list too. They were awful the year they beat the cards in the superbowl, and were bad for years after.

The guy has taken a beating over the years as well. He hasn't played all 16 games of the regular season since 2008.

A smaller man would have crumbled.

Sorter 07-29-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9843551)
I don't believe that San Diego's line has been as bad as advertised.

Rivers lost his best receiver, his running back has been garbage and Antonio Gates play completely dropped off in 2012. The Chargers have had just an average wide receiving corp since Jackson's departure.

Personally, I think it has to do more with the fact that Rivers is declining, the players tuned out Norv and the personnel decisions have been poor.

The dreaded shitnado.

There are some nice pieces on that roster. The pieces they've let walk the past 4 years though is baffling.

keg in kc 07-29-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9843556)
The guy has taken a beating over the years as well.

A smaller man would have crumbled.

No doubt.

GoChargers 07-29-2013 04:55 PM

In 2011, David Diehl by himself gave up nine sacks, eight hits, and 48 hurries, while the rest of the line was truly terrible, and Eli still won the Super Bowl.

DaneMcCloud 07-29-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9843562)
The dreaded shitnado.

There are some nice pieces on that roster. The pieces they've let walk the past 4 years though is baffling.

It's interesting to think that, possibly, the Spanos family made a mistake by retaining Smith and firing Schottenheimer.


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