Not according to Pro Football Reference.

We've got a bigger problem than worrying about the O-line. Nobody on that line is going to get any help from Haley. If he doesn't have a Ken Whisenhunt and a Kurt Warner to do his coaching for him (and he doesn't), then we are in big trouble. Talking about Pioli is correct because Haley doesn't have the talent to evaluate or motivate the O-line except by bullying and they won't stand for that.

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What type of help exactly does Ken Wisenhut and Kurt Warner provide the offensive line?

All in all, that defense should have been able to make one or two freaking stops in that Colts game.

i was about to ask the same thing, is MC back? this guy has said some wierd shit so far

They do all the coaching for him. Because he doesn't know what he's doing, apparently.

Hilarious.

That line of thinking is so ****ing stupid, I don't even know how to post any sort of rebuttal.

I hadn't referenced anything just trying to remember with my own little melon. Wasn't Tait Guns first 1st round draft pick? Sly Mo being Guns second 1st round pick? I'm not arguing I'm right or anything just trying to remember.


PhilFree:arrow:

I don't know if Pioli is going to be able to get away with developing the O-linemen in the same manner Belichick does. Belichick has a huge edge there, because he's got one of the best O-line coaches in the league working for him, and that coach doesn't go looking for promotion. That mean that he's able to get continuity at that spot in a way that almost no team can. Neal is a perfect example of how it works. The guy was a wrestler in college, but the Patriots were able to take the time to coach him up because the team could afford the luxury of keeping him around and had consistency at the coaching spot. As a matter of fact, they've got another wrestler in camp this year, and this guy's basically never played a down of football in his life.

On the positive side for the Chiefs, even some of those players who didn't thrive have been okay as players. Kenyatta Jones' biggest problem was his sheer stupidity:

The team released him just a few days after the incident happened, but he'd been a starter.

Randall started for both the Patriots and the Texans.

O'Callaghan is a pretty talented player, and he pushed Kazcur for the starting job, but he keeps getting concussions. He may not survive the cut this season, based upon the way the Patriots drafted. They may feel that they just can't take a chance on a guy who gets his bell rung so frequently.

Klemm was just an absolute bust, and he's considered one of the absolute worst picks of the Belichick era.

I thought we took Tait in 1998? I honestly can't remember.

And as for referencing instead of trying to remember, I already got slapped down today, ironically on this topic.

I thought Spears replaced Tait at RT when it was the other way around. :D

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This thread makes little sense. On hand its acknowledged how Light, Mankins, Koppen, and Kazur have played on the line, a line on a team that went 18-1 in 2007, btw, but then the record of drafting is so-so because not all of them worked out.
Well no shit. That's drafting in the NFL. No team hits on al of them except maybe the early 70's Steelers.
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Calm down Scott;:D the Lord MS blesses you.

Um, we're in YEAR ONE of Pioli's tenure here.

In YEAR ONE of his tenure in New England, they didn't have Light, Mankins, Koppen, OR Kaczur.

THAT is the point of this thread and makes PERFECT sense if you're paying attention.

So if you are saying what happened in year one in New England is going to happen in KC then that means in year 2 the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl. Duh

Its still assinine. Pioli is a tad more experienced now that he was the very first year he was at New England. As Belichick has said "Am I a better coach than I was 10 years ago? I better be!"

Ask any Patriot fan if they are pleased with the results of the Patriots drafting.
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