If Foles stays in Philly, He takes Vicks job. IMO

Man...sucks to be them.

I guess we'll have to make due with Geno Smith and after the Jags take Joeckel, they can go draft Eric Fisher. And that's if the Raiders don't grab him (or trade down). What the hell are the Eagles going to do then? Werner and Lotulelei don't really have homes in that D.

I'm not going to bend to the will of the Philadelphia Eagles for Nick !@#$ing Foles. We have plenty of leverage in this scenario if they're really wanting to move up.

I don't think the Jags take Joeckel, but point made.

Foles will be better than Geno. And 0 chance the Jags take Joeckel.

No, they won't take Joeckel. They need a guy to fit in their 34, 43 LEO defense right?

It could go two ways. Either they think Andre Branch will have a much improved sophomore year and can play LEO with Babin, and go for a guy like Lotulelei. Or they draft a guy to be a LEO/OLB like Jordan/Mingo/Ansah.

Our LT is 3 years younger than Albert and still under contract. Even less of a chance of us taking Joeckel than the Chiefs.

AIDS, get them.

If they don't then I definitely expect someone to trade up into the Raiders spot to grab him.

I'll admit not knowing about the Jags O-Line, but I thought they had a massive hole at LT after that Barnes went to Oakland.

Ah, nevermind - I forgot they had Eugene Monroe. Yeah, they probably won't go Joeckel. I still don't care about the Eagles asking price. I'll bargain on my terms or not at all for a 4th round pick that has 6 starts under his belt and looked largely mediocre.

...And with the 8th pick in the 2009 draft, the Jaguars select, Eugene Monroe, University of Virginia.

I mean if they both start next year. Not necessarily for their careers. Foles is more ready to start.

It isn't Vick's job, according to Chip Kelly.

It's an "open competition".

And to that extent, I agree with you - I don't see Foles losing that competition. Vick is broken.

I've mentioned this before but going by the draft chart, moving from #4 to #1 is worth 1200 points, the same value as the #11 pick in the 1st round. No way is Foles worth a mid 1st round pick, so a simple swap is out of the question.

The Eagles' 2nd round pick is 540 points, so swapping 1sts and taking the Eagles' 2nd would give Foles the value of a late 1st, early 2nd. Still too high, imo, but more do-able.

If they wanted Foles, I would maybe do something like swap 1sts, take their 2nd and 4th this year and give them back a conditional 3rd next year.

Max.

of course, this is all dependent on the Eagles totally falling in love with someone at the top of the draft AND being willing to deal Foles.

The easiest thing is to just draft Geno at #1 (though that extra 2nd would be nice).

If it were me, I'd much rather go with Jordan/Mingo/ or Ansah. I don't think Star is what he's built to be.


Still not sure why you refer to your defense like that. But, to each his own I guess.

And IIRC, Frank said he had heard that all the Foles talk was pretty overblown.

Refer to our defense like what? And I personally think they will try to trade down and get Ansah. I am convinced he will dominate at the combine.

Yep. Pretty much nothing on Foles coming from his sources. Which means it's largely media generated unless the Chiefs are completely locked down.