4 things...
 

Chase Daniel is fun to watch. My favorite Tiger ever, and he just makes plays. Not calling for him to start by any means. I just enjoy his success.

Ramik Wilson surprised me tonight. I like him, but thought he had a steep learning curve to contribute. He may not.

Eric Fisher looked good. Other than the one hold, he was flawless.

This one hurts. I don't want to be this guy, and I hope I'm wrong, but...
Dee Ford is a bust.
In the run game, he cannot get off a block to save his life. He's obviously big and strong enough for the position, but he has no power. Just a block magnet.
In the pass game, he's got elite speed, but he can't turn the corner. He gets washed past the Q every time. It's something that can be taught... but he isn't even attempting to get a good lean at this point.

I think Daniels could step right into the starting role without missing a beat.

That's all we can ask, is that some of the players are trending upward. No way will all players improve.

He's already proved it twice.

Ohhhhhhhhh snap!

I enjoyed watching Daniel. And I always root for him to succeed.

But let's also be honest. He stared down receivers all night who just happened to come open. While he took advantage, I think his success tonight was more about circumstance than anything.

But it is fun to watch.

Didn't get a chance to watch the game last year but I said the same thing last year about Ford lacking a natural "bend". IMO he could be an elite pass rusher if he somehow had the balance and agility to turn the corner. I'm not 100% sure that is something that can be taught though. Sad to hear his run defense is still suspect.

good to hear about Wilson and Fisher.

Did March look any good?

March looked very good. Just small. He moves well. He and Wilson together was a very mobile ILB corps.

Yeah March look good he stop a player in the backfield. Remind me of how DJ always blow up the RB for a loss of gain.

Nice Nice, i'm excited to see how things end up playing out at that spot. I liked Alexander even more than Wilson after watching their clips after the draft. Sounds like Ole Mauga better get healthy.

I have no doubt about that.

He needs more game time & he would learn the nuisance of the game.

The nuisance of the game?

Who?

Let me add a 5th thing.

I am encouraged by this win. The way we won was very business-like. For lack of a better term, it was Patriot-esque.

It's early, but I'm getting a feeling about this team...

Just looking at highlights from the midway point of the 2nd quarter on (date night) it is encouraging that it looks like our depth played really well and is talented.

That hasn't been the case in a long time.

Uh, ever.

I couldn't really remember back in the 90s to well, didn't keep up with it like these days

It was one preseason game but tonight it showed we had depth, that West can ball, that we may have some young receivers who can contribute, and some of the questions about future moves at LB and corner may be addressed. O-Line is still a question mark but looked better than last year for sure.

And the earlier poster summed it up perfectly. Some players are ascending and others (Ford, Commings) need to step up if they plan on sticking.

Sully, on the bubble screen to DAT, that's a read play, with the bubble as an addition.

Is the read determined on box number/alignment or?

This was the same as every preseason game. The team with better depth wins.

If it were a real game, it looked like we were gonna get our shit pushed in.

I'll have to rewatch but typically slant/bubble is a IZ read based on #s ITB.

I think I will use that when I get n00bs at work\
here are the basic guidelines, but there are nuisances you have to learn to deal with

Found a torrent of the game and started watching. Very first play of Peters career was against Larry Fitzgerald. Damn that has to be terrifying lol.

We weren't getting our shit pushed in.
Abdullah got beat, and Smith threw a dumb ball.

Ramik Wilson is the guy we drafted out of Georgia.

Athletic guy that can defend the pass and play in space, but looks to finesse his way to tackles.

He was an absolute bystander in the 2 goal line plays on the Cardinals opening drive.

Until, and unless, he starts to put his nose in there, he has no business on the field except on passing downs.

Yeah, he looked great. :thumb:

Good to see people are keeping level headed when it comes to making predictions off of preseason games.

Everybody knows that SBs are won in August.

Where the other six things????

Poseur!

This was the best preseason game the Chiefs ever played. Not only did they dominate but for once the majority of fans are actually happy.

Or the Cards really suck and we're too stupid to realize.

i donno...to me we got beat up...Arizona starters kicked our ass. Only pre season game 1 but wasn't very encouraging to be honest.

ya, i saw it very differently actually. At least in the 1st quarter when the starters played we clearly lost the battle.

After spending 4 and a half hours watching this first preseason game, these are my observations.

You already have my comments regarding Ramik Wilson in an earlier post in this thread, so I'll comment on Justin March next.

The guy was all over the field, chasing down RBs in the passing game, sticking his nose in at the LOS getting involved in run stops.

He plays with abandon and has good instincts.

DJ was DJ.

On the DL, other than the usual suspects, Hebron Fangupo, Nick Williams and David Irving were the guys that flashed some ability.

In the backfield, Deji Olatoye and Kevin Short looked like some guys with promise that this team might want to develop.

On offense, Fred Williams and DaRon Brown opened some eyes.

Charcandrick West showed some surprising power, and was electric in space.

James O"Irishman has a long way to go as a blocker at TE.

The starting O-Line, including Stephenson, who came in for an injured Jeff Allen after the first series, looked pretty solid.

Marcus Reed had one huge whiff, but actually played pretty well overall.

The best showing of the night, though, came from Laurent Davarney-Tardiff, who was easily the best of the group, playing both sides of center.

Paul Fanaika is just a waste of a roster spot.

Finally, Chase Daniel stood tall and delivered a couple of pretty passes.
Those were two plays that Alex Smith simply doesn't make.

Take that for what it's worth.

I don't remember ever hearing his name before but he was impressive. I think he'd be ready for the no 2 role if injury forced him to step up...

The only reason that he isn't #2 now is draft position.

He is better than an overrated Knile Davis, who is Larry Johnson with less power.

Judging backups who play other backups is like saying the Milwaukee Bucks are legit because they beat the Toronto Raptors.

Good god. Never quit CP. Never quit.

Davis has better speed but much less power. And is made of glass...

Irregardless, it's a mood point...

If only moar roped tires.

Since the backups are mostly playing backups, that's the only way to judge them.

LOL One season and one preseason game and Ford is a bust.

That's what I thought.

Looked like it should have been a give last night

Fred Williams, Charcandrick West and Chase Daniel looked great actually....and yes I agree that Chase Daniel outplayed Alex Smith....by quite a lot actually. Chase Daniel was the best player on the field from either team.

Which is exactly what he did at Georgia.

He found a lot of tackles.

He didn't make a lot of tackles.

Dorsey obviously wants a certain guy at that position. He keeps bringing in guys through FA and the draft who are essentially the same guy (Mauga, Wilson).

Go plug you're rotten vagina. You're just pissy it's not a Mormon/Utah player.

I'm just pissy it was Ramik Wilson.

He was the one dude I didn't want.

Oh, and while were at it, did anyone catch the Dolphins preseason game? The one where Vigil was the best player on the field?

That's the kind of shit you want from a MLB.

I've yet to witness make those two throws. Those were surprisingly pretty. Unexpected from Chase.

I'm going to echo some of milkman's observations. I really liked LDT's progress. Williams and Brown looked like a couple guys looking to take some vet's job away. I liked West's power. March looked like a guy who's not afraid to stick his nose in there.

I am not too concerned with Alex's play yet. It was the first preseason game and aside from when he took off and ran for a first down, he was not in full game mode. Now, if his other outings are the same or not much better as the the preseason goes on, then I will be worried come the season opener.

Yep. ROFL Kinda like that Neil Smith guy...

Why? Both times that Chase started for Smith he looked good. He's made some difficult throws when it counts so it stands to reason he could as well when it doesn't. Right? :shrug:

speed is useless unless you have pass rush moves. Which he seems to not have. Not looking to encouraging for sjre

Derrick Johnson was the exact same player until the Haley regime.

Yeah because our best offensive weapon never touched the ball once......:facepalm:

Smith threw a dumb ball is a bit of speculation...

1. We don't know for sure if Avant did or did not run the right route...

2. Smith couldn't step into the throw...

Assuming neither of the above were a part of it then yes, Smith threw a dumb ball

Yeah I agree. I clearly remember him making those same dumpoffs and at least 1 or 3 pass plays for negative yards in the SD game last year. One went for -6 yards.

Looks like he has a good understanding of Reids short horizontal passing game.

Bono looked good until he started regularly and teams got tape on him.....just sayin'

Alex Smith has been the QB of this team for 2 seasons and we had a winning record both seasons and people are crying about an INT in game 1 of the preseason.


You want to feel good about a preseason game 1? Go back a few years ago and watch Cassel\Hillis shred the Cards. You'll feel better for about 30 seconds

All of this. I can't stress these things enough, the int was a group effort. Smith, Knile, Morse and maybe Avant all played a role. But the inaccuracy was a result of him rushing the throw with the guy running clean right at him.

Need I remind everyone again, our 1's looked really good the first preseason game of 2012. It's all way too soon to judge.

But diamonds in rough things.

Uh...

Johnson was already a very talented pass defender when he stepped onto the field - as the stongside OLB in a 43.

He was lazy in his off-season training, thinking he could rely on his natural athleticism to carry him over to the season, which is always why he struggled to come up to his game/season playing speed until late.

That's why Haley put a foot in his ass. Which helped a lot.

But his natural game tendencies were always pretty solid. (He came off blocks wide to start his career, but that was primarily a function of playing OLB in college and to start his pro career.)

Wilson, at least in college, found a ton of tackles. He rarely made tackles. (Which is why I wasn't the least bit enamored of Eric Kendricks - same type of player.) Dude never went in and got the tackles, especially impact tackles like TFL and sacks. Sub-mediocre in taking on blocks. (Which is also why I really liked Zach Vigil in that that dude would absolutely go right into an offensive lineman, stand him up and rip right off the block to make the impact play behind the los.)

So, anyway, there you go...

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Oh, did you see Vigil's line in the first preseason game?

led the Dolphins on Thursday with five tackles, a sack and two tackles for a loss.

led the Dolphins on Thursday with five tackles, a sack and two tackles for a loss.

led the Dolphins on Thursday with five tackles, a sack and two tackles for a loss.

led the Dolphins on Thursday with five tackles, a sack and two tackles for a loss.

First Quarter Thoughts:

1. Jamell Fleming is disappointing.
2. Wilson looks like the same guy that ended the 2014 season.
3. Still hate Avant.
4. DAT should have made that catch for a 1st down.
5. What's with Dee Ford's patty cake play? He's the opposite of physical.
6. The offensive line looks much improved. Stephenson played well.
7. Peters isn't afraid to hit.
8. Tyvon Branch is a player.
9. Welcome to KC, Justin March. The linebacker group could be special.

You missed the point. The poster said, "Chase looked good surprisingly." (In his brief appearance for THIS game) So, my reasoning is and was sound (and here's the point) in that he already has looked good in spot duty, when it counted, so it stands to reason he would again. Nobody said anything about "regularly" until you mentioned it and changed the original point.

BFD. Preseason you **** tard.

I agree. DAT is starting to spell his name as McCluster....

:clap: This

But Daniels ate boogers.

Hah.

Bookmarked for future laughs.

Please do dipshit, right next to your take about Poe being able to play early in the season. Fool. ROFL

I think that was me.....so, yeah.

You use a lot of words. I wish that your football knowledge reached the same volune.

Dee Ford is the one I can't figure out.

I can't tell if he just needs to get better with his hands, or if he simply isn't strong enough, but he gets moved and latched onto far too easily. Flashes a great speed rush from time to time, but needs to add more to his skill set. Moses looked like a better #3 OLB option last night.

Coming out, I remember reports said he had trouble converting speed to power. That's an issue with hips and body angle.