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Titty Meat 10-29-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9063103)
Lake Dawson , he is smart, he is young and he was a Chief.

Tennessee's drafts have been a disaster.

loochy 10-29-2012 03:18 PM

ACCORDING TO JAYCIE PEARSON IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT WE THINK SO WE SHOULD JUST STFU

Chiefs Pantalones 10-29-2012 03:20 PM

Anyone who will draft a QB and spend money in free agency. Wisely. Not cheap though.

htismaqe 10-29-2012 03:21 PM

Who?

Scott Pioli.

Why?

Because that's who it's going to be.

Strongside 10-29-2012 03:28 PM

Who: Me

Why: I can win 2 games with 22 guys off the street.

DaWolf 10-29-2012 03:39 PM

Depends how we go about things. If we are picking the GM first, and letting him hire his own coach, then the GM absolutely MUST be a leader. Pioli, say what you want about him, he was the hottest name out there because he did his job well in New England. But his job was not to be a leader. His job was to go scout dudes and work with the scouting department to get info to Belichick in the style Belichick wanted. He didn't have to lead an organization. What you are seeing right now is Pioli in over his head organizationally. He's a guy who would be better served just doing the bidding of a big time coach like he did in New England.

If we go about hiring a big time coach (IE Cowher, Gruden, etc) to run the show and be the face of the franchise, then you just need to worry about hiring a personnel guy in the background who will work well with the coach and can go out and get his type of players. Good ability to negotiate contracts and organize your scouts and assimilate info, but don't need to be the strong leader type.

Without knowing more about a guy like Ross and what his leadership style is, and how Hunt would want to go about hiring a coach, it's hard to answer. Clark will probably want the front office guy to be the top guy rather than the head coach, so the danger is if you go get another young guy, if he doesn't know how to lead, we will have wasted another four to five years.

If Hunt wants to go young at GM, and not hire a big time coach, he may want to invest in a VP of Football Operations position and put in a strong, experienced and proven leader to guide the franchise along for a few years...

Marcellus 10-29-2012 03:50 PM

I do think if Pioli is canned Clark will realize he needs a splash to get people back in the seats.

Here comes Cowher.

Not my choice.

Titty Meat 10-29-2012 03:53 PM

Marc Ross is my first choice.

If you're going for Cowher, Omar Khan but he has no personnel experience and would be GM in name only.

Other intriguing candidates:

Tom Gamble: Player personal for the 49ers

Elliott Wolf: He's probably too young

Vincent Newsome: Director of pro personal

CaliforniaChief 10-29-2012 04:00 PM

DaWolf brings up a good point. Teams don't always hire the GM first, particularly if a high caliber guy comes in as HC who wants his own people there.

That being said, I still like the GM, then coach, system of doing things. And if we were to go that route, I would prefer Marc Ross to be the guy.

He might go the Perry Fewell route (and there could be worse directions, IMO), but he also seems less bound to a "way" and more freethinking, based on what the Giants have done in the front office and on the field.

He's young, intelligent, has a track record in scouting/drafting, and is well-spoken of by those who know him. I would be excited by a Ross hire. If another team doesn't get to him first, that is.

RealSNR 10-29-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9063165)
Anyone responsible for personnel w/Colts, Steelers, or Giants.

Jim Bob Cooter here we come

ChiefMojo 10-29-2012 04:21 PM

I like Russ Ball from the Green Bay Packers and Mike Holmgren as his HC.

http://www.packers.com/team/staff/ru...-7567ed7712e0/


Joined the Packers organization as vice president of football administration/player finance on Feb. 13, 2008.

Entering his 24th season in the NFL, having previously worked for the New Orleans Saints, Washington Redskins, Minnesota Vikings and Kansas City Chiefs.

Was selected by the Saints to attend the 2005 NFL Managers Program at Stanford University’s Executive Education Graduate School of Business.

Began his NFL career with the Chiefs in 1989 as assistant strength and conditioning coach.

Russ Ball, entering his 24th season in the NFL, begins his fifth season in Green Bay as the organization’s vice president of football administration/ player finance.

Named to the position on Feb. 13, 2008, Ball brings a vast array of experience to the Packers’ front office and is highly involved in all team decisions both on and off the playing field. He is responsible for negotiating player contracts and managing the salary cap, in addition to the daily supervision of football-administration departments including athletic training, equipment, video, corporate travel, player development, family programs and public relations.

“The first thing that needs to be said is that Russ Ball is a good man,” said Ted Thompson, Packers Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations. “He is a tremendous help to all of us here with the Packers, and his influence is felt throughout the organization. He does a lot of valuable work that often goes unnoticed by many. Russ is also a steady hand and a valued friend that we all come to for advice. He represents the Packers proudly, and we are fortunate to have him with us.”

Before coming to Green Bay, Ball spent six seasons (2002-07) with the New Orleans Saints, the final two as vice president of football administration and the first four as senior football administrator. His responsibilities with the Saints included monitoring the salary cap, contract negotiations and roster management, as well as maintaining the team’s compliance with NFL and Management Council regulations. Ball also coordinated different areas of the football operations, and was involved in several other administrative functions with the club. During his time in New Orleans, he also served in a similar capacity with the New Orleans VooDoo of the Arena Football League from 2004-07. Ball was selected by the Saints to attend the 2005 NFL Managers Program at Stanford University’s Executive Education Graduate School of Business.

Ball, 53, spent the 2001 season as director of football administration for the Washington Redskins, where his duties included managing the salary cap as well as team operations, as he oversaw the video, athletic training, equipment, strength and conditioning and player development departments.

Ball served as senior football administrator for the Minnesota Vikings from 1999-2000, where he assisted with salary-cap management and player contracts. He began working in the NFL with the Kansas City Chiefs and spent 10 seasons (1989-98) there, the final two in football operations as administrative assistant to then-head coach Marty Schottenheimer. Ball began his career with the Chiefs as assistant strength and conditioning coach.

A 1981 graduate of the University of Central Missouri, Ball was a four-year letterman at center for the Mules. He served as head strength and conditioning coach at the University of Missouri from 1982-89 and earned his master’s degree in human performance from Missouri in 1990.

Ball was born Aug. 28, 1959, in Moberly, Mo. He and his wife, Diana, reside in Green Bay and have two children, Joe, 26, and Andrea, 14. Away from work, Ball enjoys spending time with his family.
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I admit that Marc Ross/Perry Fewell combo from the Giants would be very good as well.

DaneMcCloud 10-29-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9063103)
Lake Dawson , he is smart, he is young and he was a Chief.

And he's sucking ass in Tennessee.

That team is pathetic and has a serious lack talent.

The Bad Guy 10-29-2012 04:24 PM

If I'm betting on who I think will get it, I think Cowher comes here and he brings a guy he trusts to help him run the football operations like Fisher did in StL.

DaneMcCloud 10-29-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9063371)
I like Russ Ball from the Green Bay Packers!

Team President? Yes.

General Manager? No.

And NO to Holmgren.

DaneMcCloud 10-29-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9063381)
If I'm betting on who I think will get it, I think Cowher comes here and he brings a guy he trusts to help him run the football operations like Fisher did in StL.

As long as it's not Tom Donahoe or Tom Modrak.


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