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chiefzilla1501 04-28-2013 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9640390)
Reid has a losing record with every QB not named Donovan McNabb, dipshit.
Jeff Garcia went 6-3 (including 1-1 in the playoffs)
7-3 with AJ Feeley
19-16 with Michael Vick
So-so not great 3-4 with Kevin Kolb

Dicksneeze

Messier 04-28-2013 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9640467)
ROFL

Because I had no opinion on who to hire as GM this means I have to sit around and be happy about every boneheaded, reeruned, idiotic decision this dude makes?

Go **** yourself.
Eat shit if you don't have an alternative.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2013 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9639980)
I disagree.

It's Clark you should be mad at. IMO, he told Andy to win and win now and when they looked at things and in their opinion didn't feel anyone in the draft could do that immediately they went with Alex.

As far as the rest of the off season, they have built this offense around the QB to use his skill set (or lack thereof). OL, TE, more depth @ RB/FB. One WR in Avery to try and stretch the D.

This is how Reid thinks he can be most competitive and win now. Is it gonna bring a SB win to KC? I doubt it. But like I've said before, I don't have the blinders on with Andy. I think he can rebuild, make the Chiefs competitive again and then I'm hoping in 3-5 years a young up and coming assistant takes over and between him and Dorsey make the changes to a more new age "wave" NFL team.
I like this plan. A lot.
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Chris Meck 04-28-2013 10:32 AM
Jason Campbell sucks. Matt Moore is a joke. Flynn is a noodle armed 7th round pick who had one freaking good game, and even that was full of underthrown prayers. These guys are not anywhere near the class of player of Alex Smith.

jd1020 04-28-2013 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9640473)
Eat shit if you don't have an alternative.
Yes, because throwing out a name would make a difference in who Clark Hunt would pick to be GM.

You're such a ****ing moron.

DaWolf 04-28-2013 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9640472)
Jeff Garcia went 6-3 (including 1-1 in the playoffs)
7-3 with AJ Feeley
19-16 with Michael Vick
So-so not great 3-4 with Kevin Kolb

Dicksneeze
And three losing seasons in 14 years, with 10 playoff wins. But apparently the guy has no idea how to coach...

chiefzilla1501 04-28-2013 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9640427)
What exactly are their past bodies of work?

Reid hasn't done anything since McNabb.

And what exactly did Dorsey do in GB? He was a scout and then became an assistant. There's nothing to suggest he was calling any shots. All we have to go by is what he's done in KC and the first thing he did was spend the #34 pick and a 2014 3rd/2nd on Alex Smith.
Andy Reid is a terrific offensive coach and his offense has consistently been very good. He hasn't been a consistent winner since struggling to find a defensive identity. But that's not what we're arguing about here. We're arguing primarily about his knowledge of offense and offensive players.

Dorsey looks raw from the GM side, but you're questioning his ability to scout players and not giving him credit for his contribution to Green Bay success. That's wrong. We will see how good Dorsey really is based on how some of our late picks do.

I agree that both have had a so-so track record of finding QBs. But Dorsey never really had to, and Reid has proven he can get the most out of QBs (even the bad ones).

Messier 04-28-2013 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9640485)
Yes, because throwing out a name would make a difference in who Clark Hunt would pick to be GM.

You're such a ****ing moron.
I think it's fair to ask someone saying someone sucks, to ask who they think would be better.

You don't like Alex Smith. That's fine. But Dorsey didn't ignore his first duty. He did his job. The QB position is upgraded, quite a bit, you just don't agree.

acesn8s 04-28-2013 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9640416)
If they are expecting A Smith to throw more than 25 times a game then we are in trouble. The game is going get away from him. Teams are going T off on him. Probably best if we did do keep Brandon Albert and have Eric Fisher play RT.
Is that a bit of logic I detect?

duncan_idaho 04-28-2013 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9640477)
Jason Campbell sucks. Matt Moore is a joke. Flynn is a noodle armed 7th round pick who had one freaking good game, and even that was full of underthrown prayers. These guys are not anywhere near the class of player of Alex Smith.
Just throwing out 3 game manager sorts. Not banging the table for any of those guys.

Alex Smith is somewhere between the 15th and 20th best QB in the NFL. Even after his last two seasons. He's still a game manager. The difference between Smith and someone like the 20th to 25th best QB managing games for you is what?

1 game? 2 games? MAYBE 3 games?

So a team that would go 6-10 with Carson Palmer goes 9-7 with Alex Smith instead? Best case scenario?

What is there to be excited about there? What is there to say "Yes, it was worth trading two second-round picks for this guy"?

More money in Clark's pocket, and that's about it.

Rasputin 04-28-2013 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 9640488)
And three losing seasons in 14 years, with 10 playoff wins. But apparently the guy has no idea how to coach...
I don't give a **** how good of a coach is if the quarterback fails then the coach fails.

chiefzilla1501 04-28-2013 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9640509)
Just throwing out 3 game manager sorts. Not banging the table for any of those guys.

Alex Smith is somewhere between the 15th and 20th best QB in the NFL. Even after his last two seasons. He's still a game manager. The difference between Smith and someone like the 20th to 25th best QB managing games for you is what?

1 game? 2 games? MAYBE 3 games?

So a team that would go 6-10 with Carson Palmer goes 9-7 with Alex Smith instead? Best case scenario?

What is there to be excited about there? What is there to say "Yes, it was worth trading two second-round picks for this guy"?

More money in Clark's pocket, and that's about it.
I hate that this is true, but you have to get the true fans back in order to bring Arrowhead back. Because Arrowhead is a competitive advantage that we've lost. Again, I hate that we gave up too much for him, but as long as this is a stopgap (and not a long-term solution) then I really don't care too much about picks we gave up.

Kaepernick 04-28-2013 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 9637992)
News flash: We will have a first round pick next year too.
Would that be so bad?

I mean, if you aren't going to the playoffs, I would rather suck and get the top draft position and have a chance to improve anyway.

Mav 04-28-2013 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9640467)
ROFL

Because I had no opinion on who to hire as GM this means I have to sit around and be happy about every boneheaded, reeruned, idiotic decision this dude makes?

Go **** yourself.
your reeruned logic is this. You are judging moves, that havent proven to be right or wrong. They havent played a single down, for you to be judging ANYTHING. So, until that happens, you really are just an annoying crying baby in walmart....

Mav 04-28-2013 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9640866)
Would that be so bad?

I mean, if you aren't going to the playoffs, I would rather suck and get the top draft position and have a chance to improve anyway.
The chiefs, can make the playoffs this year.


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