I think the point here is that QB is a position where you want the guy to eat, breathe, sleep, and shit football. That's the way Manning and Brady are.

So Geno gets the opportunity to interact with the best football minds he's ever been around. Nope, not interested. Need to text my friends back home.

Any way you spin it, if that is a true account, it's a clear negative. And isn't the same as wearing a tee shirt, or having a tattoo, or listening to rap.

Does this mean he is going to be a bust? No, but he'll probably need to eat some humble pie and change his attitude to be successful. That's probably a bigger change that fixing your footwork.

well, kind of, because you werent talking to me.

You were talking to ALEXSMITHDYNASTY. Different guy....

Who decided today?

There''s a spectrum, some convinced long ago, some suspecting for a while, some still unconvinced and a thousand gradiations in between. No matter how certain anyone FEELS know one knows at this point as the evidence is yet to come.

The article is more about coachability than character IMO. If he's not as good as he thinks he is and won't listen to the guys who are supposed to get him there, that's a pretty bad sign.

There is NO QUESTION that if these reports are true they are a significant red flag.

The guy has a lot of work to do and if he is unable to put in quality work at areas of need, he is unlikely to ever be worth a high draft pick...but to act as if these reports are absolute fact and that they prove that Geno will be a bust is being disingenuous and that's where this discussion turned into an argument.

It's possible that his unwillingness to focus on crucial points is a reason he faltered against good defenses last year.

It's also possible this is all BS info distributed by the agent he just fired...which is more likely givent the timing of the report in relation to the firing.

I'm including myself in the guilty because I thought that an FCS QB who couldn't beat out Tyler Palko would be a shit QB, but these are the posts from the 2008 draft thread as Flacco was drafted.

That's a useless response. Every GM ever > BossChief, after all.

You griped about 6 drafts. The only draft in that group where a QB taken after the Chiefs picked went on to win a SB (to date) is that Flacco draft. So, unless you were pounding the table for Flacco, you don't really have any point.

You're responding to the wrong person, I called you a bitter loser.

I listen to Colin Cowherd almost daily and he knows people that have coached Cam in Carolina and claim they have to use a limited playbook with Cam because of his attitude and willingness to put in the work and that a lot of his teammates don't like him because of it.

He also says that was a problem in college.

Nope. Chief Fan knew more than any GM or NFL front office.

I think Geno Smith not participating at the senior bowl was a major mistake. He thought he was the best QB prospect at that point and only focused on the combine. Because there wasn't a clear cut QB prospect above the pack he should have gone to the senior bowl to separate himself and show that he is coachable.

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At least I'm not a miserable bitter loser though.

Doesn't stop me from hating Alex Smith or any other retread quarterback we would have gotten. Same for the next retread quarterback I'm going to hate him too. Unless or if we ever win a Super Bowl with such retread quarterbacks I'm going to hate them. Until we find one that is fun to watch and can be around for years to come and can expect the best out of them each week then I'm just not going be happy with what we got.

If E.J. Manuel turns out to be a good to great quarterback for Buffalo then I'm going be upset that we passed on him. Take the best quarterback prospect in the draft when you get the opportunity.