Why Geno Smith fell in the draft
 

I've seen a couple other posts about this... but this probably deserves it's own thread considering how many hours we've wasted arguing about the guy. This is the first article I've seen theorizing why Geno fell in the draft. Time will tell whether it's accurate.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ge...183846651.html

Geno didn't 'fall' in the draft. He got drafted where he should have...

Sounds like the bills are justifying passing on him so their fan base won't get pissy

Unreal. This guy strutted around like he had "arrived" already.

Must have been his ex-agent putting this out lol.


Sources sources sources lol.


Dan Patrick had a good segment on "Sources". This could be easily an enemy of him trying to make him look bad. Don't believe everything you hear, especially from sources lol.

It does seem a bit ironic in that this comes out the day after he fires his agents. Oh well, he's not a Chief, he's in NY.

Don't really give a damn.

That's a pretty damning article. He was texting friends and reading Twitter when he was supposed to be talking to coaches? WTF?

I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than SNR and Sweet Dick Willie.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.

Yea that's exactly how it reads......LMAO

He fell because he's Geno Smith.

Turns out he's a spoiled little bitch. Hindsight being 50/50, I'm glad we did'nt get him

"chiefs pass on marino because he wears t-shirt"


whew

risk avoided...whew!

You guys are really feeding into this lol.

same here. he's gonna bust

That comparison shows how much of a ****ing reerun you really are.

hey, mr. wrong about everything, we passed on a QB again...as you wanted, you should be happy

your multi-decade plan of avoiding risk has been a rousing success...

Haha

I know, right.

The guy doesn't even have an Arrowhead on his helmet, so he sucks.

Truth is, time and productivity will dictate if it was a mistake or not to pass on him.

"His biggest problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know,"

Holy ****, Rumsfeld is in the NFL!

Once again you post to prove your ignorance. If you KNEW what I wanted you wouldn't post this drivel.

You are a ****ing moran dude. Go back to your other moran user name.

Geno needs to give Ryan Leaf a call about how to get along with the players and the Media.

Success or failure won't really tell if it were the right or wrong decision to pass on the guy. Situations are different in different places.

We didn't take him, move along.

why are you angry?

you get what you want every year...

we've never done what I advocate, ever...all of the Chiefs success over the decades is due to avoiding risk, as you and every other true fan reerun want

So whats our excuse going to be when he literally blows chunks? What stoy are you going to try to wrap around his failures? Coaching? talent around him?

You have a full on hard on for a QB that has every single sign of being a massive bust, as a second round pick.

But keep acting like his issue is CP because you know they broke this story right?

we draft wife beaters, drug users, alcoholics, degenerates of every stripe


but a guy who texts on his phone...TOO RISKY

IF and big IF the article is correct then I understand the reluctance to draft him.

The inability of NFL teams to see where they exist in space is absolutely astounding. Of course, its structure mirrors most, where glad-handing sociopaths earn far more accolades than diligent-working wallflowers.

I love how he now has "every single sign of being a huge bust"

That's the dumbest comment I've read today.

Not surprised who posted it.

Tyson Jackson was well mannered, I heard...no-brainer...plus no risk

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Holy ****, the irony.

Matt Cassel kisses babies

no-brainer....and no risk

Well, Belcher was an UDFA, so we're ok there.

Geno has every single sign of being a massive bust? What?

I mean if we're talking just two things:

1. Character.
2. Passing ability.

Cam Newton was a far bigger risk.

Wake up morons.

we would never draft raperburger...too creepy

whew, risk avoided!

Dan Marino cursed once...whew! risk avoided!

In a nutshell I am angry because I am tired of morans like you posting shit like this.

I have no clue where you get the idea I am risk averse, I guess its because you are stupid.

You cant separate this regime from the last, you cant separate this draft's lack of talent from 1983 let alone 2012.

You believe doing shit just to do it makes it right. And you call me reerun?

You are just plain ****ing dumb. You think running an actual football team is like talking about it on CP or playing Madden.

Then when someone disagrees you think they are dumb. Its really ****ing ridiculous Mr Talking Can't.

Since you asked, that's why I am angry. The multitude of people here like you make me angry.

I heard Geno flexed one time, while listening to JayZ.

Cam Newton stole computers and is an egotistical asshole

too risky...whew! risk avoided

in other words, me being right makes dumb guys like you angry

hey, at least we never draft risky QBs...you win

and look at the results

www.chiefscoalition.com

You will be right at home.

Nobody drafted Geno Smith in the first round.

Nobody.

That should tell you that Reid and Dorsey were not alone in thinking Geno wasn't good enough to use the #1 overall pick for.

Hell, Geno might turn out to be the next Aaron Rodgers. But it's hard to fault Reid and Dorsey for drawing the same conclusion about Geno Smith that every other team did.

So who has drafted a risky QB recently and won a SB?

**** off dick head. Is that at home enough for you? My issue is you are a bunch of whining ass pussies.

Ooh look, it's an internet tough guy!

This. Not sure why people keep making excuses for this guy like he's their first born. From the beginning people have said this guy is essentially Alex Smith with a stronger arm but lesser accuracy. I've never seen what the fuss about and if anything, he was drafted earlier than he rightfully should have been. You take a guy who's not all that great and then throw in the attitude that "he's made it" and you've got yourself a mega bust that will be out of the league in under 4 years.

It takes a truly stupid person to even ask that question.

Seriously.

Well you know Cam Newton has won so many playoff games that............

My point is you need to find the riskiest players and draft them, that's what wins championships.

yeah, man..39th pick

might as well be udfa...all 32 teams passe over him....once

but risk avoided, so we're golden...taking a RT is completely not risky

the ravens

any other dumb questions?

the packers

any other dumb questions?

That's one hell of an answer.

Seriously answer the question, who the last "Risky" QB to win a SB.

I will be waiting while you hit Google and come up empty.

But yea I am dumb.

LMAO taking Rodgers at 28 who was talked about as being #1 overall was risky? Keep proving your ignorance.

Are we really comparing Cam Newton to Geno Smith?


JFC, they aren't even close in ability.

Flacco in the middle of the 1st wasn't a risk.

So basically you're going to set the bar for what's risky and then move it when the names you're provided don't fit your agenda. Got it.

No, your issue is that "we" pound the table for a quRterback EVERY YEAR until we actually get one. Your kind, on the other hand, wouldn't draft a quarterback early because they text and use twitter.

Do you even watch the NFL besides Chiefs games?

You must not because you love shitty quarterbacks, like Alex Myth.

um, yeah, he had the most notorious fall in the first round until Geno

it's the very definition....the very thing used to prove Geno was a 'risk'

and we passed on him...

It's not that anyone is smarter. It's that there's no possible way for any armchair GM to ever have all of the information that a professional does.

And my biggest complaint is that everyone here was taking their own opinion far, far, FAR too seriously.

The great thing about this argument is that the answers will all present themselves in due time.

JFC, are you really this stupid? Those weren't risky picks. Those were SAFE picks.

The closest comparison I can think of is St. Louis insisting upon using the #1 overall pick on Sam Bradford. The jury is still out on that, but the Rams haven't won dick yet with Bradford.

ROFL

i owned your ass, you're such a pussy

drafting a QB from Delaware with the #18 pick isn't risky?

A guy who beat no one in college?

you know how many Chiefs fans would have supported that?

none

you pathetic liar

Drew Brees? Too short
Ben Rothlisberger? Small school
Joe Flacco? Small school
Aaron Rodgers? Tedford


Whew, good thing those guys don't text.

Then they would be a guaranteed bust.

Yuo live in your own little world dude. You owned nothing but your mother.

IIRC, at the time, Flacco was considered a reach.

no, they weren't

and no one on this board wanted them or would have

they are both the ****ing definition of what Chiefs fan define as risky

they sure as hell weren't "Luck or RGIII"...which is the stated reason we couldn't draft a QB this year

Absolutely. Although I think this is an interesting discussion. This wasn't just a Rodgers or Brady Quinn situation. This was a guy considered by many a top 10 talent at the prime position that almost fell to mid-2nd round. I can't think of too many times that's happened.

I am not a Geno Smith fan, but Flacco being drafted at 18 was a reach at the time.

hey, i win every time you try to prove some stupid point

this board has been littered with people telling us we can't draft QBs that aren't 'guarantees' like Luck and RGIII


and neither Flacco or Rodgers were...and NO ONE was advocating for them

you're wrong

again

THIS X 100000

Hahaha

The guy transferred to Delaware because he couldn't win the starters job over another guy at Pittsburgh.

I'll give you some time to look up who that quarterback was.

#39 is mid second?

by the definitions used on this board regularly, Flacco and Rodgers were risks

Emotion can blur judgement.


I think that the combination of this being the shittiest year for top 5 drafts picks ever along with us not drafting a 1st roud QB in years pushed people a little further into the emotional realm.

I would LOVE to draft a franchise QB but unlike you I realize you cant do that when they dont exist in the current draft.

I also understand Reid and Dorsey have absolutely nothing to do with the previous 30 years in KC. Nothing, nada, zip, zilch.

Those simple facts separates the people with brains from the people who just want something so bad they think they can imagine it into fruition.

Its kind of like having apposable thumbs.... or not.

This is going to be an awesome bar trivia question some day. LMAO

QB-hating homers:

"You can't judge a draft class until 3 years have passed.

Also, GENO SMITH SUCKS HAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA."

I know who the Qb was, it has nothing to do with the fact Flacco was taken about 15 spots early, thats not a "Risky" move.

A "Risky" move is JaMarcus Russel, Ryan Leaf, Cam Newton (Who hasn't actually won anything yet) etc.....

Tyler Bray - udfa, world's biggest douchebag...."HE'S OUR QBOTF...REJOICE! REID WILL TEACH HIM MATURITY!"

Geno Smith....."HE FELL ALL THE WAY TO #39, PLUS HE TEXTS...TOO RISKY!"

So transferring to a different college automatically makes you a risky pick?

Tell that to Troy Aikman and Jeff George. They were both taken with the #1 overall pick despite transferring.

Hahaha

Tyler Bray has 2 mega threads praising....lmao


the single biggest **** head in the draft

I said almost.

Flacco was definitely a risk. But still, those guys were taken in the 1st round because most sane GM's value the QB position highly. Geno fell completely down the board. People are looking at this through the Chiefs' usual prism of fear, but even aside from that, the whole thing is very strange.

You probably are too dumb to realize that he didn't just drop over the texting right?


Joe Flacco, Dan Marino, and Aaron Rodgers didn't go 39 BTW.

Haha

In the last 6 drafts, we have drafted in the top 5 in 4 of them.

Right now, I'd trade ALL FOUR OF THOSE PLAYERS for anyof the top ten quarterbacks.

Sadly, one of those guys has already moved on to another team and another of those guys is seemingly on his last legs in KC...on a 1 year deal.

Let me give you a little treasure hunt...

Go and look at the last 10 quarterbacks to win a superbowl and come back and tell me how many of them we passed on in the draft.

I'll be right here, waiting for you intricate excuses for why it was totally fine to pass on al of them.

This guy fired his agent cause his dumbass thought he was going #1 overall despite unlimited rumors of kc taking an OT