Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9645670)

It is odd that you'd pick and choose what part of "faith" you'd want to accept. If one part of the bible is false, aren't they all?

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9645671)

I don't know that anyone is arguing for "equality" in the sense that they want gays and straights to be identical.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9645676)

I don't think that having a belief that God exists requires a literal interpretation of the Old Testament, no.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9645670)

It is odd that you'd pick and choose what part of "faith" you'd want to accept. If one part of the bible is false, aren't they all?

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9643607)

Not a very brave person. Waits until his 34 and a free agent currently out of the league, probably not ever to play again. Not sure why this is news, he's not really an "NBA player". He's a formber player. And that's the point of this coming-out stuff. Has to be someone with something to lose, else it's not bravery.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9645682)

What does the bible tell you to do about gays? What does it tell you to do about other groups that don't believe the same things you do, like Jews and Buddhists? Doesn't it allow you to let them live their lives without condoning their beliefs/practices and leave it for God to judge them?

I'm asking because I don't know.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9645678)

Or the New?

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9645651)

You sound like a PETA member screaming slurs at people walking into KFC. Most people who eat meat still object to animal cruelty, and the vast majority of Americans eat meat. Most people of faith still object to gays being discriminated against, and the vast majority of Americans identify with one religion or another.

It may feel good to throw red paint on someone wearing a fur coat, but nobody has ever watched that happen and decided to change their ways and support the activist. Nobody witnesses your histrionics and decides "that guy just trivialized my belief in God while calling me a piece of shit...I should deeply consider his point of view."

I guess, if you aren't catching any flies, add more vinegar.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9645685)

I'm not sure it really matters what the Bible says, folks like Saul don't read it anyway.

Originally Posted by HMc (Post 9645688)

You act as if there isn't an awful lot of anti-gay noise coming from the christian right in absolutely every forum in which it could possibly originate. Holy shit there are members of congress who can't get with it and actively campaign for discrimination against gays. They inevitably rush to the bible as the authority for their claims.

Don't act like it's one or two bad seeds that make the christian brotherhood look bad when it comes to not accepting lifestyles that the bible (it seems) condemns.

And no, mocking christians is not the same as mocking gay people. Christians choose to believe that stuff.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9645691)

I see a lot more posts attacking Christians today than I see attacking gays.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9645690)

I think you're under the false assumption that belief in God means taking a literal interpretation of the Bible.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9645685)

I'm not sure it really matters what the Bible says, folks like Saul don't read it anyway.

Originally Posted by HMc (Post 9645688)

You act as if there isn't an awful lot of anti-gay noise coming from the christian right in absolutely every forum in which it could possibly originate. Holy shit there are members of congress who can't get with it and actively campaign for discrimination against gays. They inevitably rush to the bible as the authority for their claims.

Don't act like it's one or two bad seeds that make the christian brotherhood look bad when it comes to not accepting lifestyles that the bible (it seems) condemns.

And no, mocking christians is not the same as mocking gay people. Christians choose to believe that stuff.