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Frankie 07-31-2011 01:17 PM

Broken Planes & Families, and the number 159
 
Passenger jet breakes in two! How safe are those planes we ride everyday? :eek: http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/lFR...7067004e50.jpg

http://news.yahoo.com/cheers-screams...185128270.html

GEORGETOWN, Guyana (AP) — Officials say a U.S. team is expected soon in the South American nation of Guyana to probe the crash of a Boeing 737 jetliner that all 163 people aboard survived.

Authorities so far have given little idea about the cause of Saturday's crash. The Caribbean Airlines plane ran off the end of a runway at Guyana's main airport and broke in two. About 30 people had to be treated at a local hospital, including the pilot.

The airline is largely owned by the government of Trinidad and Tobago and its prime minister has visited the crash site. Kamla Persad-Bissessar says she is worried that the accident will hurt tourism to the Caribbean, a region that depends heavily on the industry.

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-31-2011 01:26 PM

:LOL:

Stewie 07-31-2011 01:27 PM

:facepalm:

Pants 07-31-2011 01:29 PM

LMAO

jet62 07-31-2011 01:34 PM

Airplanes are not supposed to go on off runway excursions. Looks like the nose gear dug into the soft ground after running off the end of the runway. Pilot could have landed long and ran out of runway before being able to stop. Also throw in heavy rain and bad visibility. It’s hard to come to a sudden stop mid air unless you hit a mountain. Besides, it's a Boeing. I won't break up in the air unless helped by a bomb, missile or an unmaintained, aged and corroded airframe.

spida_man23 07-31-2011 01:34 PM

:jester:

Bi_polar 07-31-2011 02:03 PM

oh snap

Bowser 07-31-2011 02:04 PM

ROFL

-King- 07-31-2011 02:06 PM

:Bartee:

OnTheWarpath15 07-31-2011 02:08 PM

I'm not sure whether I should ROFL, :shake: or :facepalm:

Cephalic Trauma 07-31-2011 02:09 PM

:shake:

Bi_polar 07-31-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7790652)
I'm not sure whether I should ROFL, :shake: or :facepalm:

Well nobody died, so firstly - ROFL

Then :shake: - close it with :facepalm: - so the order of moods was already perfect.

threebag 07-31-2011 02:46 PM

Those aircraft are so over engineered. I am a lead mechanic on the 737 line. Air traffic is by far the safest means of transportation.

Phobia 07-31-2011 02:59 PM

It wouldn't have happened in mid-air without some cause, Frankie. That happened due to Newton's law.

Donger 07-31-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7790491)
Passenger jet breakes in two! How safe are those planes we ride everyday? :eek: http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/lFR...7067004e50.jpg

http://news.yahoo.com/cheers-screams...185128270.html

GEORGETOWN, Guyana (AP) — Officials say a U.S. team is expected soon in the South American nation of Guyana to probe the crash of a Boeing 737 jetliner that all 163 people aboard survived.

Authorities so far have given little idea about the cause of Saturday's crash. The Caribbean Airlines plane ran off the end of a runway at Guyana's main airport and broke in two. About 30 people had to be treated at a local hospital, including the pilot.

The airline is largely owned by the government of Trinidad and Tobago and its prime minister has visited the crash site. Kamla Persad-Bissessar says she is worried that the accident will hurt tourism to the Caribbean, a region that depends heavily on the industry.

Please tell me you were being facetious.

Pants 07-31-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7790866)
Please tell me you were being facetious.

He was not.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-31-2011 03:13 PM

I was once in a car crash and the car got broken too. Obviously I don't ride in cars anymore. I mean how safe are they?

Donger 07-31-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7790870)
He was not.

No, even for Frankie, that would be too much. I'm sure that he was just hypothesizing what would happen IF a plane just decided to break into two while in flight.

I'm sure. Right Frankie?

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-31-2011 03:16 PM

Hey that could happen if it ran off the runway at 30,000 feet, don't laugh.

seclark 07-31-2011 03:20 PM

yo frankie....where you at? is it safe to fly, or what?
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Bwana 07-31-2011 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonan (Post 7790878)
Hey that could happen if it ran off the runway at 30,000 feet, don't laugh.

Have you ever seen the Jetsons? :)

http://currentmarketing.com/insidecm...05/jetsons.jpg

Bi_polar 07-31-2011 03:33 PM

I'm not sure how this has happened - take a look at the snapshot, it was 'state of the art'

Bwana 07-31-2011 03:37 PM

Now that I look at the bigger picture, after clicking on the link, that had to be one hell of a rodeo, for the people seated by "the crack."

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/ZVh...YANA-CRASH.JPG

seclark 07-31-2011 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 7790919)
Now that I look at the bigger picture, after clicking on the link, that had to be one hell of a rodeo, for the people seated by "the crack."

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/ZVh...YANA-CRASH.JPG

looks like they hit a hummingbird at 15,000'.
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Bwana 07-31-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seclark (Post 7790926)
looks like they hit a hummingbird at 15,000'.
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LMAO

A shot of the jet, after hitting hummingbird.


http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/ju...ne%20crash.jpg

Bugeater 07-31-2011 03:50 PM

OH THE HUMANITY

Predarat 07-31-2011 04:07 PM

Southwest uses the 737 for most/all of thier flights, i'll never fly Southwest again.

Frankie 07-31-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 7790837)
It wouldn't have happened in mid-air without some cause, Frankie. That happened due to Newton's law.

Structural fatigue vs air (no matter how aerodynamic) and vibration can create a similar failure.

Donger 07-31-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7790978)
Structural fatigue vs air (no matter how aerodynamic) and vibration can create a similar failure.

Oh good Lord...

Frankie 07-31-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7790991)
Oh good Lord...

Planes have never broken apart in mid air, right?

Donger 07-31-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7790993)
Planes have never broken apart in mid air, right?

Like what is shown above? No, none that I know of.

Here's how strong these buggers are. This a wing-loading test of a 777. It survives until 154% of maximum design stress.

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ai2HmvAXcU0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

threebag 07-31-2011 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7790993)
Planes have never broken apart in mid air, right?

Depends if hey get their sandals lit or not in flight

Bearcat 07-31-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7790993)
Planes have never broken apart in mid air, right?

I saw it happen once about 7 years ago... followed the aftermath pretty closely for a while, but got bored after a few seasons. I wonder if Jack and Kate ever ****ed.

Eh.

007 07-31-2011 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 7791001)
I saw it happen once about 7 years ago... followed the aftermath pretty closely for a while, but got bored after a few seasons. I wonder if Jack and Kate ever ****ed.

Eh.

LMAO

OnTheWarpath15 07-31-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7790652)
I'm not sure whether I should ROFL, :shake: or :facepalm:

Definitely going with the facepalm.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...2vjso51jpg.gif

Phobia 07-31-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7790978)
Structural fatigue vs air (no matter how aerodynamic) and vibration can create a similar failure.

Hey - you go ahead and stick with your agenda if you'd like. It's your life.

Dave Lane 07-31-2011 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet62 (Post 7790541)
Airplanes are not supposed to go on off runway excursions. Looks like the nose gear dug into the soft ground after running off the end of the runway. Pilot could have landed long and ran out of runway before being able to stop. Also throw in heavy rain and bad visibility. It’s hard to come to a sudden stop mid air unless you hit a mountain. Besides, it's a Boeing. I won't break up in the air unless helped by a bomb, missile or an unmaintained, aged and corroded airframe.

This all day.

Dallas Chief 07-31-2011 07:08 PM

Sorry but I have to say this...

Am I the only one who sees the irony in Frankie starting a thread about the structural integrity of the 737? Jack Bauer called, Frankie, and he would like to have a word with you. LMAO

Chiefspants 07-31-2011 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7790978)
Structural fatigue vs air (no matter how aerodynamic) and vibration can create a similar failure.

=(

GloryDayz 07-31-2011 09:18 PM

Refund!!!

Frankie 07-31-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet62 (Post 7790541)
.....Besides, it's a Boeing. I won't break up in the air unless helped by a bomb, missile or an unmaintained, aged and corroded airframe.

That's what I've been saying, but the collective guarantee of our resident scientists and structural engineers here have guaranteed that it absolutely cannot happen is good enough for me. LMAO

Frankie 07-31-2011 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallas Chief (Post 7791315)
Sorry but I have to say this...

Am I the only one who sees the irony in Frankie starting a thread about the structural integrity of the 737? Jack Bauer called, Frankie, and he would like to have a word with you. LMAO

May a diuretic camel find a high position directly above you.

:evil:

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-01-2011 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7790993)
Planes have never broken apart in mid air, right?


Only when they are cut in half by one of our missiles.

blaise 08-01-2011 05:18 AM

There have been planes where part of the roof came off during flight. An Aloha Airlines flight had that happen.

ReynardMuldrake 08-01-2011 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7790997)
Like what is shown above? No, none that I know of.

Here's how strong these buggers are. This a wing-loading test of a 777. It survives until 154% of maximum design stress.

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ai2HmvAXcU0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I was expecting it to break close to the fuselage but it actually snapped close to the middle. Those things are very well engineered. Nice vid.

Hoover 08-01-2011 07:21 AM

This is why I don't fly Caribbean Airlines

Give me Delta, AA, or SW please.

Donger 08-01-2011 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7792045)
There have been planes where part of the roof came off during flight. An Aloha Airlines flight had that happen.

Yep. That was an explosive decompression caused by fatigue, but the fuselage didn't break in half. They just got a really bitchin skylight.

jet62 08-01-2011 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7792045)
There have been planes where part of the roof came off during flight. An Aloha Airlines flight had that happen.

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...uZ62/Aloha.jpg

This incident brought about changes as to how often aging aircraft are inspected for metal fatigue and corrosion. Although it was catastrophic and one flight attendant died, the airplane held together and was able to land. BTW… this is the same basic airframe involved with Caribbean Airlines Flight 523 proving that it had an incident on the ground right after landing (the photo shows the engine thrust reversers still deployed as they would be after landing).

Frankie 08-01-2011 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7792089)
Yep. That was an explosive decompression caused by fatigue, but the fuselage didn't break in half. They just got a really bitchin skylight.

There goes that 'F' word again. Wonder where I saw that earlier in the thread. :hmmm:

Donger 08-01-2011 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7792298)
There goes that 'F' word again. Wonder where I saw that earlier in the thread. :hmmm:

There's a rather large difference between a chunk of fuselage ripping off and the entire fuselage failing completely and breaking in half, Frankie.

Look, you made a rather humorous goof. Just laugh it off like the rest of us are.

Phobia 08-01-2011 11:21 AM

No, clearly Frankie is right. He found a small detail which aligns slightly with his agenda and now aircraft shred apart in mid-air for no reason at all other than because Frankie said so. The worlds-a-changin...

LiveSteam 08-01-2011 11:21 AM

One of my all time favorite air accidents
<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Aajp-A43glA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pants 08-01-2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7792306)
There's a rather large difference between a chunk of fuselage ripping off and the entire fuselage failing completely and breaking in half, Frankie.

Look, you made a rather humorous goof. Just laugh it off like the rest of us are.

I told you he was serious. LMAO

Donger 08-01-2011 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7792754)
I told you he was serious. LMAO

I fear that you may be right. At least he has the common sense not to post in here again.

Reerun_KC 08-01-2011 11:46 AM

I have flown through some crazy weather before. I wondered if the damn plane was going together or not...

Rain Man 08-01-2011 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7792753)
One of my all time favorite air accidents
<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Aajp-A43glA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


My goodness. Was the Ken doll able to eject? I couldn't tell.

Donger 08-01-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7792866)
My goodness. Was the Ken doll able to eject? I couldn't tell.

I see something eject at precisely 17 seconds.

Frankie 08-01-2011 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 7792749)
No, clearly Frankie is right. He found a small detail which aligns slightly with his agenda and now aircraft shred apart in mid-air for no reason at all other than because Frankie said so. The worlds-a-changin...

Way to exaggerate, dude. And what is my "agenda?!" All I indicated was structural fatigue and lack of proper maintenance can happen and yes it's scary. You guys just went to town with a small issue topic. :D

Donger 08-01-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7792930)
Way to exaggerate, dude. And what is my "agenda?!" All I indicated was structural fatigue and lack of proper maintenance can happen and yes it's scary. You guys just went to town with a small issue topic. :D

No, you foolishly thought that a commercial aircraft could have such a failure while in flight (apparently). Did you really think that was possible?

loochy 08-01-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7792986)
No, you foolishly thought that a commercial aircraft could have such a failure while in flight (apparently). Did you really think that was possible?

But it's broken in half!

Phobia 08-01-2011 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7792930)
Way to exaggerate, dude. And what is my "agenda?!" All I indicated was structural fatigue and lack of proper maintenance can happen and yes it's scary. You guys just went to town with a small issue topic. :D

I think everybody is sufficiently aware of your debate tactics by now. Mountain / molehill etc.

seclark 08-01-2011 01:16 PM

frankie may be right!:eek:

Phobia 08-01-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 7793148)
I still have no idea what Frankie's agenda is here, Phil...

Is he Anti-Airline? Maybe anti-caribbean tourism?
Does he have stock in Carnival Cruises?
Do the Wright Brothers owe him money?

I mean, isn't Frankie like Pakastani or something? I would think he'd want as many infidels on the ****ing plane as possible.

WAIT! I just figured it out... Dude's a cab driver, huh?
That's his angle. He's losing fair due to the convenience of flight.

Often, one's agenda is as simple as defending the point they've attempted to make originally. Even though others have debunked his point - airplane professionals, even - still he clings.

Frankie 08-01-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 7793148)
I still have no idea what Frankie's agenda is here, Phil...

Is he Anti-Airline? Maybe anti-caribbean tourism?
Does he have stock in Carnival Cruises?
Do the Wright Brothers owe him money?

I mean, isn't Frankie like Pakastani or something? I would think he'd want as many infidels on the ****ing plane as possible.

WAIT! I just figured it out... Dude's a cab driver, huh?
That's his angle. He's losing fair due to the convenience of flight.

Meh, every time I start a thread someone will point out that I have an agenda. I'm used to it. :D

Donger 08-01-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 7793200)
Often, one's agenda is as simple as defending the point they've attempted to make originally. Even though others have debunked his point - airplane professionals, even - still he clings.

Frankie is never wrong. He will declare victory shortly and then excuse himself to go and run an errand or two. He'll be back soon thereafter, however.

Pants 08-01-2011 02:22 PM

Frankie = bottom 5% poster.

Frankie 08-01-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7793265)
Frankie is never wrong. He will declare victory shortly and then excuse himself to go and run an errand or two. He'll be back soon thereafter, however.

I don't have lap top and yes I do step away from my desk top. What's so unusual about that?

As far as being wrong or right it seems that you guys are the ones so cocksure that a mechanical man-made object is totally indestructible. I am merely presenting the point that there is such a thing as human negligence when it comes to maintenance.

Pants 08-01-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7793335)
I don't have lap top and yes I do step away from my desk top. What's so unusual about that?

As far as being wrong or right it seems that you guys are the ones so cocksure that a mechanical man-made object is totally indestructible. I am merely presenting the point that there is such a thing as human negligence when it comes to maintenance.

Frankie, you're a dumbass.

BigCatDaddy 08-01-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7793335)
I don't have lap top and yes I do step away from my desk top. What's so unusual about that?

As far as being wrong or right it seems that you guys are the ones so cocksure that a mechanical man-made object is totally indestructible. I am merely presenting the point that there is such a thing as human negligence when it comes to maintenance.

Just quit while you are behind and hope the thread disappears into the abyss.

Frankie 08-01-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7793338)
Frankie, you're a dumbass.

Of course you would say that since you are a hurt-ass, which is not surprising having tried to match wits with me here and on DC.

blaise 08-01-2011 02:44 PM

Someone turn on the black box this thread is about to crash and burn.

Frankie 08-01-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7793348)
Just quit while you are behind and hope the thread disappears into the abyss.

Behind? Are you blind? ROFL

Iowanian 08-01-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7793374)
Of course you would say that since you are a hurt-ass, which is not surprising having tried to match wits with me here and on DC.


Farooq you, dipshit.


I'm going to let you in on a secret. People are laughing at you, regularly, and it's not because you're funny.

BigCatDaddy 08-01-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7793383)
Behind? Are you blind? ROFL

It's the good advice that you just didn't take....

4th and Long 08-01-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 7793404)
Farooq you, dipshit.


I'm going to let you in on a secret. People are laughing at you, regularly, and it's not because you're funny.

LMAO

Iowanian 08-01-2011 02:55 PM

I can only imagine the conversations in FarooqU's neighbor garages.


I'll bet he's got a nickname, like I call one of mine "gilbert grape's mama" and "the bullfrog twins" and another "the lord of the flies" and "piggy".

Pants 08-01-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7793374)
Of course you would say that since you are a hurt-ass, which is not surprising having tried to match wits with me here and on DC.

I'm sure that's how it is in Frankieworld. Just like in Frankieworld, people laugh at your jokes and how, in Frankieworld, people were claiming that airplanes are "totally indestructible."

LMAO

I don't think you can outwit a tree stump, champ.

Iowanian 08-01-2011 02:59 PM

I have a hemroid that I am fairly certain could beat Frankie at a game of boggle.


Yes, I'm saying a small piece of Phildo's ass could match wits with frankie.

Stewie 08-01-2011 03:00 PM

My buddy was pulling his bass boat down the highway at about 70 mph when it came off the trailer. It skidded wildly and flipped a couple of times and ended up down an embankment. He sent pictures to the manufacturer of the carnage because water is alot like asphalt and someone might drown.

Donger 08-01-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7793335)
I don't have lap top and yes I do step away from my desk top. What's so unusual about that?

As far as being wrong or right it seems that you guys are the ones so cocksure that a mechanical man-made object is totally indestructible. I am merely presenting the point that there is such a thing as human negligence when it comes to maintenance.

Claim it, Frankie. Claim it.


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