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Listing examples, on the other hand, gives us a frame of reference. We can look at their Career Approximate Value (CAV) based on statistics stripping out emotion. Montana: 123 Elway: 138 Graham: 84 Staubach: 104 Marino: 145 Bradshaw: 106 P. Manning: 165 E. Manning: 86 Brady: 140 Roethlisberger: 86 Flacco: 55 OK, here are a couple of interesting facts about what you consider a "franchise QB": 1) with a couple of exceptions (Flacco and Roethlisberger) a franchise QB is either a current hall of famer or a future hall of famer, 2) with one exception (Flacco) all the QBs you've listed have a higher CAV than what you can typically expect with the number one overall pick (74). You've supported the very point I was making in the OP. Thank you. |
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So Brad Johnson is basicly the "mean" of 1st round QBs. So if Brad Johnsons skill set is the average the real question would be where does Genos skill set fall in the bell curve. I do think Brad Johnson is a very average QB. He was merely in the right place at the right time to get his SB ring. Awesome D along with Gruden vs Raiders/Gannon.
Time will tell us all where Geno belongs and whether taking him or passing was the correct decision. The biggest thing for the fans IMO is: If not now, when? This draft has the feel of '08 when it was Matt Ryan or Jake Long. No I don't really want "Matt Ryan" as my QB. He is not a franchise QB IMO. He cannot put a team on his back and win. So if Reid and Dorsey view Geno as "Matt Ryan" I hope we do pass on him because we would be stuck with a good QB that can't win you a SB. |
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What do you call this? <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4zFYwferLVQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> And this? <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/txPjiVZ3DUo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> And this? <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gViWWDWsg6Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> And this? <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Y9vMKw5Ur7M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> And this? <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9S_biZV-lOk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> And this? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/FOeL1D8vMiI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> And this? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PzDawiYEpFU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Could Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, or Tyler Bray could be a franchise QB? We don't know. They could be and the potential reward is worth the risk.
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We aren't talking about first round talent; we are talking about the first pick. Typically, you aren't going to get a player that Crush describes, you are going to get a Brad Johnson type of player. A player that everyone says isn't a franchise QB. This is simply a matter of stripping out the emotion. |
after i saw him go to shit in the KState game .. i lost my trust in him .. what could he do in the NFL with those defenses .. nothing .....
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That isn't necessarily bad. Johnson had a couple of pro-bowls and a Super Bowl ring. |
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THat said it's only true because most are huge booms or huge busts. All drafts have Manning's and Leaf's. The entire point is to have a GM and scouting dept. able to tell which is which. The point is to have people that can identify the possibles and the probables. If you don't not only will that pick bust but most that follow will as well... |
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No, they don't. That is the whole point. |
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