Fair value for Bowe: 5 years, 58m, 20m guaranteed.
 

Per this very insightful breakdown.

http://overthecap.com/estimating-the...r-dwayne-bowe/

It's long but here's the meat:

http://i.imgur.com/Sci2qfA.jpg


http://overthecap.com/wp-content/upl.../WR-Market.png

Was just about to post this.

Great, great read.

He should get paid well. He's yet to have a real QB. And the one year Cassel did well he had 15 TDs

I've been figuring $10-12 millioin a year for 5-years was probably the ballpark we were talking for Bowe. This info pretty much puts it spot on. The Chiefs have the money to make this contract work for sure.

done

That was a really good article.

To be clear, he's not been signed, this is hypothetical numbers based on other signings, right? Nut hooks to the OP

The OP would say BOWE SIGNED if that were the case, you ****ing cro-magnon.

Not going do any backflips yet the deal is not done. Hopeful very hopeful they get the deal done soon.

So easily riffled these days, it was a little unclear. That is all, don't be such a sissy girl. Oh wait.....

If Bowe would agree to that(5 years, 58m, 20m guar) he would of already been signed to an extension.

The 20 million guaranteed would be the only question the team would have at all.

Chiefs just ran Bowe on a 1-year tag for 9 million ... 11 million per isn't a huge leap


Megatron signed a deal for 8-year, $132 million, 60 guaranteed

There's just no way we can afford to keep Bowe AND Cassel.

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His numbers stack up amazingly well, give the guy a real quarterback and a system that works and his numbers would be right there with Johnson and Marshall.

Sure it would..

the difference between Bowe and those elite receivers is that they don't go to clubs every weekend with Birdman and Lil wayne and smoke weed.

Bowe has motivation problems and want's to be a rapper, he's also a snitch and a selfish player

It wasn't confusing at all. I clicked here expecting to see analysis of what Bowe's fair value ought to be.

ROFL

BlackBob, or just someone trying really hard to be like him?

LMAO get ****ed, then get the **** out.

While I totally disagree with te tone of that post, there is SOME truth in it.

He looked high as a kite in that picture with the "baked" hat on and he did snitch on the whole importing thing...

I'd still sign him to big bucks, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them want to put a clause that voids part of the deal if off field stuff gets in the way of his game.

He was at the superbowl with Birdman, wayne and that young money crew looking high as a kite.

As long as he doesn't get caught, I don't give a ****.

same i have no problem with weed but it does kill you're motivation.

Motivation isn't the problem for a guy with Bowes production consistency.

Cut Hali and Houston. Those weed-smoking ****ers are getting baked on the company dime! Replace them with competent players!

I'm glad Blackbob climbed off his uncle long enough to grace us with his presence again.

How's it going, bud?

Snitching is when you roll over on your friends and rat them out to get out of getting in trouble yourself.

He didn't SNITCH on anybody. He just failed to keep the whole importing thing a big secret. He BLABBED, he didn't "snitch".

Exactly.

SMOKE WEED!!!

fyp

That's your description as it relates to drugs.

A snitch is an informant...which is what Bowe did in the importing thing...stupidity isn't an excuse, it's arguably worse.

Like I said though, I don't care about that shit and doubt the team does either, but I bet they are trying to add a clause that gives Bowe incentive to keep his head in the game and make adult decisions.

lmfao, hali was so high at the pro bowl

I love players that hang out with birdman and lil wanye those guys are the best players in the game.

No, that's the definition of a SNITCH.

Using the word "snitch" has a definitive connotation that Bowe absolutely does not deserve.

He didn't say what he said with any forethought of malice or intention to get anyone else in trouble.

It was a slip of the tongue and nothing more.

And by the way, NOTHING is worse than a snitch. NOTHING.

he could have kept it to himself instead, he's to blame too. doesn't mean jack if he had a girlfriend, he was fuccing those imported women too.

I already said he could have kept it to himself.

That doesn't make him a goddamn snitch, nimrod.

The whole idea behind the word snitch, and the extreme negative connotation, needs to go away. Its a huge problem in schools, and one of my biggest pet peeves is the word snitch and what it means, and what it doesn't mean.

Yup. I used to tell on the bad boys at school and the teacher always rewarded me for it.

I know ha, right? But I work with inner city kids, and try to get them to differentiate snitching and helping out someone in trouble. Its not easy to break the brainwashing that happens.

snitch /snɪtʃ/ slang
vb
(transitive) to steal; take, esp in an underhand way
(intransitive) to act as an informer
n
an informer; telltale
the nose
Etymology: 17th Century: of unknown origin

Whatever.

The extreme negative connotation is deserved.

Don't be a snitch and you'll never have to worry about what the word means.

You've got a problem with intent, then.

Telling the truth about someone doesn't make you a snitch.

Telling the truth about someone to get yourself OUT OF TROUBLE does.

Bowe wasn't acting as an informer.

"To inform" is a premeditated act.

He blurted it out, accidentally.

You're wrong. Move on.

I never had to worry anyway.

The bad boys weren't strong enough to shove my head in the toilet for a swirly.

Well to be fair, your giant egg won't fit in the US standard toilet.

There goes Mr. High and mighty again.

He was acting as an informer, whether it was on purpose or not. Shit, like I said before, it's actually worse to be stupid and be an informer...that's two negative traits.

YOUR definition is one gathered from the drug community...

They were probably strong enough to shove your head in the toilet, but not strong enough to lift you into position for that final part to take place. :evil:

Two guys (jack and jim) smoke a joint and then go in separate directions.

Jack meets someone new and this person asks him if he smokes and he says yes and says he likes smoking joints with his buddy Jim.

This new person turns out to be a cop and Jim gets busted for possession.

Is Jack an informant?

Absolutely not.

If you're talking about when he was in Tampa, you're an idiot. If you're talking about this year's Super Bowl, show me.

Better ask Jim about that.

Actually they weren't strong enough. There were two of them, even. But I was able to brace my hands against the stall walls and became an immovable object.

Haha they had already lifted you into position?

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...6hXHtFNC5xtft7

there you go, i'm not such an idiot after all

Like I said, no. I braced my arms against the stall walls when they pushed me inside.

Later of of them ran a pencil down the metal spine of his notebook, back and forth repeatedly and pretended like I was farting constantly, publicly shaming me and inviting the entire class to laugh at me. They did.

I don't think Bowe was even in that whole thing. Thanks for wasting that short part of my life.

So, like I said, they weren't strong enough to get you into position.

Kids can be cruel

clearly you didn't watch it, go to 1:36 in the video.

He has glasses on inside and is only on there for a second or two.

What point are you trying to make from that?

he may be on the video for a second but he was with them all night

attending the GQ super bowl party along with every other rich and famous person in town means what, to you?

I'm surprised his catch rate and yards per game are so low compared to Andre Johnson. He shouldn't expect the same kind of deal with 70% of his production.

However, Bowe is a very nice player to have on your team and we shouldn't let him get away when we are swimming in cap room.

ROFL

Of course not.

Jack is a dumb mother ****er and terribly naive.

But a snitch, he is not.

To "inform" is a deliberate and purposeful act.

And the word "inform" comes DIRECTLY from YOUR definition posted earlier.

STFD and STFU

WRs don't win Superbowls. QBs do.

If keeping Bowe jeopardizes getting a QB, then I believe Powers Boothe summed it up pretty well in Tombstone.

He told the media his married teammates ****ed hookers...any way it's painted, it's a negative.

I'm done with this chiefszilla type semantics argument.
Not necessarily.


informer (ɪnˈfɔːmə)

— n
1. a person who informs against someone, esp a criminal
2. a person who provides information: he was the President's financial informer

This is all inference on your part.

You're done because you lost. Pretty simple really.

Both definitions still have INTENT.

Bowe didn't INTEND to get anybody in trouble.

It's ABSOLUTELY an important difference because if he was a SNITCH, everybody in the locker room ****ing hates the guy and there's zero reason to re-sign him.

he's always with birdman and that crew

i wouldn't be surprised if he was doing more then weed to you, you guys don't get the kind of lives some of these high up rappers live..

cocaine, the strongest weed, MDMA, sipping codeine, importing women, the list goes on.

ROFL

Bowe looks high in every pic, the only guy that was able to straighten him out was Haley and even that didn't last long.

HE HAS MOTIVATION ISSUES, bottom line and it's because of the drugs. How can you guys be so naive and blind to that fact?

His intent was to appear cool to be part of something like that...without thinking the consequences through first. He should have zipped his lips about it.

I chalk the whole thing up to immaturity and think he has learned quite a bit since then. Like I've said over and over, I'd sign him tomorrow if the price is only 5/60 with 25 guaranteed. Shit, I'd be fine with him getting more than that and have said as much since this time last year.

LMAO okay dr. Pinsky.

Can I just have mod powers to ban these obvious trolls? If I ban a legit poster take them away.

JFC

LMAO

i wouldn't be surprised if he free bases and spends the off season doing drive bys...

Go fist your grandmother.

I would sign him too but never to Fitzgerald money or even Vincent Jackson money.

you are an incredible ****ing dumb ass...just incredible

just pretend he's white, then you'll have no problem with him

Exactly.