My friends said that if this guy was excited about it then it must have cool new features. They said that the camera improves with each new model, and maybe they'll do something with the screen size. They really didn't have any details.

They don't have any details, because there are none. Trust me. Apple doesn't let stuff like that leak. I wouldn't bother waiting, just get the best available right now that fits your budget. There will always always be another phone just around the corner that somebody tells you to wait for. And since Apple just released these 2 new models, it's going to be a year or so before the next release. Could be longer.

lol at the tards that pay hundreds more for an apple product.

:spock: There is no 5i.

Students are all raving about the new iOs today, so Apple can still create a buzz among the teens.

Your friends dont know what they're talking about.

No, they don't because the very few people that do have that information are required to sign confidentiality agreements. You would not believe how seriously Apple takes that shit....

HTC One is my current favorite

Has anyone mentioned the LG G2? Supposed to be a pretty fantastic phone as well. Just another option to consider.

Anyone upgraded to iOS7 on a iphone 4s yet?

I did it with my 4. So far so good. I like iOS7.

I did it last week. Runs fine.

Just did it. Buggy. Weather refuses to show up in notification center. And when it does, it's just text. Wtf. Bad design. I want to glance to see the weather, not read three sentences.

Not happy with it. Everything else is okay so far.

I read that that phone is not bad compared to the GS4 or HTC One, but if she's on Verizon, that version has a cheaper made back plate and smaller junkier buttons. Same big battery though. I hear the tap the screen function is amazing.

I haven't gotten it yet. :(

Edit: Just checked again. Downloading now. :D

Oh, and I have Sprint.

Been on it since Beta 2. It's solid. Oh, and if anyone is having issues with the traffic and weather stuff, check your permissions on location services.

What the hell happened to the weather widget in notification center?

<blockquote>Temperature is also now displayed in the Notification Center, as long as Location Services for the Weather app are turned on, accessible through Settings > Privacy. </blockquote>

Like I said...a bit of a step back. I use Dark Sky for weather usually anyway.

<a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/18/ios-7-tidbits-imessage-timestamps-app-switching-spotlight-search-and-more/">Lots of good stuff in this article at Macrumors</a>

One thing that I noticed last week is that the phone will try to figure out whether you're driving or walking and adjust the directions accordingly. Kind of odd when you're on a bike like I was last week.

Mine are in. Still no weather update

Weird..restart it?

I had some issues under one of the betas with notifications not appearing that got fixed by wiping out all the settings but that really sucked. I had forgotten how many notifications I'd manually turned off. It worked though.

Battery life sucks. Been unplugged 20 minutes and dropped 6% already. Normally this would have only dropped 1 or 2 percent

Chill out on that one...it should get better once it indexes everything. Spotlight search (now available through swiping down on the springboard screen) is crazy fast in searching through my whole 70GB iTunes library that's there through iTunes match.

I was getting through a full day on one of the betas at a conference in vegas a few weeks ago. Really the same thing kind of goes for the traffic estimate.

That was my worry when I was watching the kids use it today. All of this "cool" stuff has to take a toll on the battery.

There is hardly anything to index on my device and I don't have match.

My 4S is getting WAY better battery life since the update. Go figure.

I want your battery.

It's really bizarre. I was getting shit battery life before the update. Just 6 hours on standby would drain 20% at LEAST, if not 30.

I just went to the gym for an hour and a half, listened to a podcast the whole time and it was at 99% at the end. Winning.

HOLY CRAP!!!

got the upgrade. how do you disable passcode on iphone 4s?

Settings General Passcode Lock

It worked. Thank you kind sir!

I've got one of these coming in the mail today.

That sounds like a bug in the calculation rather than a true difference in battery life.

We will see. It did well overnight off the charger.

Notes syncs with outlook exchange server now. Praise Jesus!

I have the iPhone 5. Is there a way I can disable this passcode thing?

It's in the settings -> general.

I see it but you can't disable it? How so?

Lol nevermind

Well, I don't have any friends that wear watches. Maybe one or two. I personally think the phone is a good form factor. I can check it easily for notifications, for the time, for directions, for anything. And when I don't want it, it's out the way.

I'm very skeptical of wearables at this point. If they all need phones, what's the point? If I have something in my pocket that does what I want 100x better than this thing on my wrist or face, why am I going to bother? I just can't find the point of it at all. My phone lives with me - it takes good pictures, it notifies me of everything that I want, and I -need- it. Why should I add another device that just duplicates it in an inferior way?

I feel naked without my watch.

As for Apple, they have themselves in a bit of a mess. It's not that they make bad phones, it's just that they don't set themselves apart anymore. It's becoming very hard to be innovative in the smart phone market. But that's what investors demand from Apple.

Google has it easier, because they don't have that obligation. They release the software and the OEMs define the market. Want a bigger phone? A bigger battery? Anything else? Fine, someone will make it and bring it to market. And if the consumers like it (like with screen size), everyone else will follow and Google gets the credit.

I wouldn't say Apple is in massive trouble though. On the train every day, I still see mostly iPhones, especially with women. The question is more five years from now, after people go through a few phone contracts. How does Apple keep its position as the innovator if people see it surrounded by phones doing much more?

iPhone is getting stagnant. Apple is stagnant. New Mac Pro? LOL.. OS X Mavericks is ho hum. iOS7.. meh, OK. They are definitely slipping.

I like the *idea* of a smart watch, but it's got to have more functionality than they currently have. I'm in the camp with Wood that says "My phone does this better and it isn't any more inconvenient." The only reason I even wear a watch is because it's basically the only acceptable jewelry for a man to wear.

Like I alluded to, I like the idea of watches that are a smart phone ACCESSORY, but not that are essentially a full-blown Android device on their own. The ability to control your phone's functions (music control, stopwatch control, etc.) while being active, for example, is a decent feature of having a watch. But I'm with you - no need to add another Android device to my life that doesn't work with my phone.

We need the girl from 4E

Agreed. The problem Apple is running into is that it's increasingly seen as competing with other PHONES rather than competing with other OPERATING SYSTEMS. Even in this thread, the discussion has largely centered around specifications and features rather than the user experience. When that happens, it's no longer iOS vs. Android and instead is about iPhone vs. Samsung S4 vs. HTC One vs. LG G2 vs. a million others.

It's much tougher to compete when you're one option of hundreds than it is when you're one option of two.

They had people lining up for iPhones yesterday at stores and getting up at 4 am to buy online. They sold out of many models really quickly. They make a profit on each of those phones.

Can any of those be said for one of the individual phones you list?

I don't think you can hate on the new Mac Pro yet. My initial reaction was kind of negative because I was envisioning having an internal RAID in one. Now I think it's going to be a solid option for me because it's small enough I can take it wherever I need it to be.

EVERY person I know in the film industry is pissed about it. It's a pretty big **** up according to them. The lack of expansion cards is a deal breaker.

The new Mac Pro is a huge huge ****up. I support a large number of people that have the actual need for the hardware that the previous Mac Pro provided. This Mac Pro does not meet their standards at all. It's a joke. Everyone that actually does intensive graphic design type work necessitating a machine like a Mac Pro is beyond disappointed. Apple sat pat on the Mac Pro line for many years, and to see this little food processor looking piece of shit as the result is a straight slap in the face from Apple. They ****ed up hard.

Exactly what I've been hearing as well.

Just one example.... I support a professor who currently has a Mac Pro, with 4 X 2TB SATA drives in it, along with 16GB of RAM, 1GB Radeon graphics card. Pretty standard for a most graphics designers. One of hundreds of similar setups I support.

Absolutely non of that is compatible with the new model. Upgrading will likely cost him ~$3K just for the new unit, at least 2 external HD enclosures for his current SATA drives, Thunderbolt dongles, HDMI to DVI dongle, external optical drive, etc.

And I know many people in that same boat. What's going to happen, is that current Mac Pro owners are going to hang on to their old tower units absolutely as long as possible, because the new system means starting over from scratch. Which is exactly Apple's intent. It's ****ing horseshit and it's going to create serious animosity toward Apple above and beyond what's already there.

Couple that with Adobe's new "Rental" licensing model, and you have yourself an entire industry of graphics folks that are ****ing pissed off at the world with no clue on how to pay for their next generation of hardware and software.

*shrug*

Guess we'll see what happens when it's actually released with specs and benchmarks. I'll be purchasing one for sure. Most of the working copies of images that I've got can live on a USB3 or Thunderbolt drive with a separate Thunderbolt RAID to hold my postgres database. Going to put in for two 27" displays and plan on getting one of them.

I will say that I'm not excited about having that huge mess of wires around my lab, but my lab is already that way due to all the stuff I've got plugged in already.

And like I said...the ability to take everything local and toss this little thing into a duffel bag to take home for the weekend or an all night session beats the living shit out of lugging home a 9 pound laptop plus all the other crap just to have an underpowered machine.

My current Mac Pro falls into that weird gap where you can't upgrade it beyond Snow Leopard. I'm hoping that it falls from my employer as surplus soon. The combination of that hardware and Snow Leopard (which is still getting updates) makes it the most stable machine I've ever used on any platform.

Have you priced Thunderbolt RAID controllers? Yikes....

Your current machine is a Powermac G5. Not a Mac Pro. You can't upgrade beyond Snow Leopard because it doesn't have an Intel processor. That also limits you quite a bit regarding Adobe Creative Suite and other software. Upgrading from that to the new Mac Pro and OS X 10.9 is going to be a huge upgrade for you....

Ugh. They're going in the opposite direction from what I was hoping for. We still have tons and tons of Freehand files that we need to use, so we're hanging on to our old Mac, still, even though it's a slow piece of shit now. I was hoping we'd get more backwards compatibility with future iterations, not less.

5S for sure. The C isn't worth picking up.

Android is for contrarian neckbeards.

On the 4s with the new OS anyone know how to recover deleted texts? Even possible?

If you did a standard update you would not have lost your texts. Sounds like you did a full clean install. If that is the case I don't know if restoring an old backup will work for you or not.

my wife has

You're best bet is to attack any local backups that you've got. There are a few utilities out there that will let you browse through them as well as some commercial tools. Internet Evidence Finder does a pretty slick job of it.

Oh, give me a little more credit than that dude. I misspeak in part. It won't go all the way to Mountain Lion but it might go to Lion. I inherited it from the video guy who drove it for a few years.

It's an early Intel Mac Pro. <a href="http://9to5mac.com/2012/07/23/mountain-lion-installed-on-a-macpro11-heres-how-to-do-it/">There are some hacks that appear to work</a> but it's a work machine and I'm not going to mess around with that stuff on something that's mission critical. I'm hoping that it's old enough that they'll sell it to me for cheap when the replacement arrives.

In related news, the window opened up to go ahead and order the current machine so I took it. In spite of the older Xeon processor, it should still be quite a beast.

Built it out with two 512GB SSDs (one for OS X and one for Win7), two 2TB spinny drives for data, 32 GB of RAM, the stock 1GB video card (I'm not using this for video editing), an eSATA card, a USB 3.0 card and two Thunderbolt Displays.

When I was at the store doing some poking around to see how easy it would be to swap the fourth drive in and out (super easy) they said that they could "put me on the waiting list" for the new Mac Pro so who the hell knows when I'd be getting it after it was announced. I know that every TV station and video production house in town are already on the list.

Okay. It's D(ecision) Day!

Moto X
Galaxy S4
iPhone 5s

Yes, the iPhone is still in the running. Just my resistance to change...lol.

Anyway, still looking to see if anyone has any info on the Moto X. I think it's one I could design if I was with AT&T, but I'm not, so my choices are simply black or white.

This is a good review on the Moto X - http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-review

Still against the HTC?

I'm really leaning towards the Moto X. I'm weary about going with a company's first try into a market though.

S4

Also, all of the reviews I've read of the HTC One on various sites kind of dog the camera, which is a more important option for me.

Uh...Motorola has been making cell phones for ages.

I'm assuming she meant something different, though I'm not sure what. After all, this was theirs...

http://i.imgur.com/KpAYyy5.jpg

I think she meant HTC. Although, the One isn't their first attempt either...

I'm assuming she meant first entirely new phone SINCE google took them over.

I was thinking this was their first smart phone.

ROFL

So you wonder why I come here for advice? I apparently know nothing. Apparently, no one has any personal experience with the Moto X. Thanks to SLAG for at least attempting to helping me by pointing me to a good review.

Just get the new iphone and be done with it, all of this hemming and hawing is just for show.

You don't know me at all. This is a decision I'll have to live with for while. It's something that I don't know much about. I'm asking for information on something that people on this site are knowledgeable about, so I can make the best decision I can. I've obviously misread something along the lines in the many reviews I've read. Instead of laughing at me, you could just answer the question.

They have made dozens of Android phones. The Motorola Droid was one of the first major Android phones.

What do you want from the phone?