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SAUTO 08-01-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5940332)
Manning has only had 2 of the best WR's in the league his entire career, guess we better not count him.

hey man i guess you cant comprehend sarcasm, you are the one thats uses "cassel looks good because he threw to moss and welker". thats YOUR argument against him not mine, but like i said that argument only works when YOU want it to huh?

SAUTO 08-01-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5940384)
No.

I just can't put a guy that I think lacks mental toughness and leadership in any top 10 QB list.

Hasselbeck is there right now until he proves otherwise, and he'll be replaced shortly by the likes of Matt Ryan or Aaron Rogers.

i dont agree with romo or eli manning.

Mecca 08-01-2009 11:52 AM

Jason calling me names, per usual.

Oh god here it comes Jason is going to argue that Cassel is better than Eli Manning.

SAUTO 08-01-2009 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5940395)
Jason calling me names, per usual.

Oh god here it comes Jason is going to argue that Cassel is better than Eli Manning.

i edited it, and that IS NOT usual for me. you kn the other hand... and i will argue that eli manning isnt a top 10 QB.

Mecca 08-01-2009 11:57 AM

Who's better?

I'm not putting a 1 year starter in the top 10 at QB to many guys have flamed out for me to do that.

Eli has actually shown pretty significant improvement I think he's earned that a spot in the top 10.

KCBOSS1 08-01-2009 11:57 AM

He is now, He's got to be. (manning that is)

SAUTO 08-01-2009 11:58 AM

2284 att. 1276 comp 55.9% 14623 yards 6.4 avg 98 td 74 int 76.1 rating career


WOW this guy is a top 10 qb?

SAUTO 08-01-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1 (Post 5940412)
He is now, He's got to be. (manning that is)

why? because he won a SB?

KCBOSS1 08-01-2009 12:00 PM

Well, not a lot of good quarterbacks to select from right now. Career rating yes, not so good. He was a late bloomer

Mecca 08-01-2009 12:01 PM

He showed extreme improvement from the middle of their bowl year and it continued through last year.

It's not about his career stats he's really become a much better player over the last 2 seasons. Before that he was a disappointment.

SAUTO 08-01-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5940410)
Who's better?

I'm not putting a 1 year starter in the top 10 at QB to many guys have flamed out for me to do that.

Eli has actually shown pretty significant improvement I think he's earned that a spot in the top 10.

who cares how long a guy has started. and manning's completion % has gone up a couple of points and last year his INT #s dropped (we'll see if it continues to be low) before that he had 17 18 20, with 24 24 and 23 tds. looks pretty middle of the road to me

Mecca 08-01-2009 12:04 PM

Because the Giants run the ball?

And the Giants offense went into a total funk after they lost Burress.

RNR 08-01-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5940286)
and to say he's not a top qb right now is funny shit. where did he rank among Qbs last year?

In reality last years stats are questionable to say the least. He played "good" in a great situation. He is a one year starter going back to high school. I really do not see how anyone looking at him objectively can feel certain he is a top flight QB.

The Chiefs GM clearly believes in him and he has first hand knowledge of him. There have been QBs that come out of nowhere but every time they were surrounded with great talent. Time will tell but IMO the jury is still out.

SAUTO 08-01-2009 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5940419)
He showed extreme improvement from the middle of their bowl year and it continued through last year.

It's not about his career stats he's really become a much better player over the last 2 seasons. Before that he was a disappointment.

so 297-529 56.1%3336 yards 23 tds 20 ints is better than 301 522 57.7% 3244 yards 24 tds 18 ints? and with that running game.... (another thing you dink cassel for )

SAUTO 08-01-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5940425)
Because the Giants run the ball?

And the Giants offense went into a total funk after they lost Burress.

wonder who was more important? shouldnt a top 10 qb be able to overcome that? (another thing you say about cassel)


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