I think everyone but Clay thinks that.

To suggest he was beat out Cassel means you think he was actually given an equal opportunity to be starter.

I'm not a Landry Jones advocate. Based on statistics over a 4 year college career Jones has the numbers and size, 6'4' 215, to entice an NFL team to take him in the first round.
Tannehill only played 2 years in college and went in the first round. Jones' current year is not horrible by any means 93/147 63.3 1032 7.0 7td 2int. I agree Jones isn't clutch, but the numbers are there.

No, they're not.

And if you watched the K-State game, you'll see how he wilts under pressure. He's a late rounder at this point. Beating up St. Mary's of the Plains won't pad his resume. That said, I'll hold ultimate judgement until after he faces Texas. That should be a great test.

Manny's going to bring the house against him.

If all teams could look at were the numbers you referenced then sure. Of course, you start looking at his YPA, YPC, 3rd down %, and quite a few more relevant statistics when evaluating players. It isn't just completion %, TDs, and Ints. Then you can factor in with your YPA how far the ball is actually thrown (i.e. is he a product of a system/bubble screens or does he actually drive the ball downfield? In Jones' case, the first part is true)

Statistics while useful are often misleading. Game film however, is revealing. Landry Jones does not have 1st round tape. It is pretty obvious to see.

I agree, the Texas game will be a good barometer for Jones. I did watch the K-State game and Jones did get rattled under pressure. He still put up 305 yards with 1td and 1 int though. Not terrible under the pressure he faced.

They also lost that game.

I get why people want him to suck ass but we also need him to show he is better than cassel so cassel can FINALLY be dumped. Now, if Clark is going to clean house, then none of it matters. But if he is going to keep Pioli we need Quinn to perform better than Cassel.

And the GM probably didn;t talk to the HC either. RAC here's your new backup QB.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...yquinnbret.jpg


OMG I think Quinn is going be Poison guys.

Not to mention if Quinn does well it justifies the banner and saveourchiefs.com. If Quinn bombs, all we'll hear is, "See? Pioli knows what he's doing."

No we won't. Just because Quinn sucks doesn't mean Cassel doesn't still suck.

I am referring to anyone outside of CP. Like DEBBY ALL CAPS and her kind. If Quinn were to fail worse than Cassel those types will be saying it. The movement gains traction by us demanding Cassel to be benched before most people saw that it needed to be done.

The "Chiefs" thing to happen now that the season is over would be for Quinn to be mediocre, ruin our draft position, save Crennel and Pioli's jobs, and install himself as next season's starter.

I really don't think Quinn doing mediocre keeps Pioli and RAC safe.

LMAO

It would have been funny if after Cassel got his bell rung, he sat up and acted like he was trying to put his hat on his head.

Dude, that ain't acting.LMAO

:LOL:

Is all this talk about Quinn moot? I think he's here on a 1 year contract for about $1.5M. If he does light it up, he's probably gone.

yea can't have anyone affect Cassel's confidence. He'll be Orton'd and we'll live in Cassel purgatory

Think you underestimate the loyalty at one arrowhead.

Pioli will NOT stick with Quinn if he can avoid it. He will ride Cassel all the way as soon as he is healthy again.

I want Quinn to fail so.badly.

I hope Quinn blows it up on Sunday

22/35 270 yards 2 TD's

This is team is taylor made for a spark and we have a schedule which is very much salvagable. A win Sunday would be great heading into a bye where Quinn can get even more reps.

I believe in this guy

based on what?

Not Cassel.

I'm excited to see what the kid has.

Hopefully Daboll will give him some high-percentage opportunities early on Sunday so he can build some confidence.
I'm going to guess that Bowe, McCluster, and Charles get the most looks in the passing game.

Yeah that's stupid. So you.would rather lick gochiefs ass than suck his balls? Got it.

Yeah this.is.how.low this franchise has gotten. Excited for.dog shit qb play.

The headline in the Star is beyond laughable. Didn't bother to read the article.

that's how i see it as well.

People keep knocking him for his time in Cleveland in 09 which was his only run as starter in his career, but did you see his group of skill position players there? It was worst than AIDS and most of those guys are not even in league anymore.

Now he has an offense which in my opinion is ready to be top 10 with a talented motivated guy at the wheel. What was Cassel's motivation? That one who sucks the penis has been able to operate with impunity for over 3 years, the fans hated him he'd already got his big contract no wonder he sucked.

I think this is the perfect storm and If I am right we have a schedule that can see us get on a roll.

You know for certain that he'll play poorly?

The irony of all this is if Quinn plays well and wins games, it almost certainly gurantees a Pioli extension.

Nope...

"Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him."


Amazing.

"With Sunday start for the Chiefs, Quinn could reclaim his career."

Yeah, and if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass a hoppin'.

Once the HC has filed the appropriate TPS reports and copied them in triplicate they can then be allowed to converse with other coordinators about personnel moves.

It's simple. It's all laid out in the contract Romeo signed.

In blood...

How exactly? If Quinn comes in and lights it up....the ONLY THING that Pioli can hang his hat on is that he signed him.....and none of that matters because RAC wanted him.

If Quinn lights it up.....Pioli is gone because he repeatedly had Cassel out there sucking it up while Quinn was on the bench.

Pioli is gone no matter what happens.

I know I am going to get flamed for this, but I hope Quinn lites it up when he gets a chance to play, hopefully Sunday.

That should bench Cassel for good, but we have to remember Orton looked significantly better than Cassel last year and Pioli showed him the door for upstaging his boy.

I have ZERO faith that the team will ever draft a first round QB and develop him. It hasn't happened yet, almost like it is written into the teams bylaws.

You assholes who called for Matt Cassel to be benched are going to get what you deserved. Quinn is going to come in and go .500.

Bye bye, Geno.

You couldn't just suffer with Cassel for one more measly season, go 1-15, and get a real QB?

Our best case scenario is now that Quinn wins the rest of our games, right up through the super bowl.

Our second best scenario is that he makes the rest of our 1-15 season at least entertaining.

We gonna run the table now.....;)

Here is what I expect to happen. Quinn will be better in the passing game in being able to get the ball downfield. He is still going to be missing the throws he needs to make. If it can open up the field for the running game and lead to play action, the offense should look better. I expect around 55% completions and as many picks as TDs. If he is mediocre like that, does it put Cassel back on the field or does Stanzi get the next call?

Quinn is god awful we all know this. I think this says more about how bad Stanzi is than anything because we all know how awful Quinn is and he can't beat him out.

I think it says more about the abysmal qb situation in KC in general.

But hope is hope, and at the minimum it is making the season entertaining again and giving reason to watch.

If that is true, then what does that make Cassel? Because he sure looked a helluva lot better throwing the ball than Matilda......Let's see how he does on a good team with weapons......and a defense like he has now before we blindly parrot what has been said over and over. Dude hasn't been given a legitimate chance. Seriously, how many Brady Quinn games have you watched before he got to KC? Oh, he did beat Cassel in 09 at Arrowhead...

I'm with you. The guy was very talented, and has played. 12 games. 12 GAMES!

There is no way to evaluate a QB on sample size that small. You just can't.
I know it's wishful thinking, but I'm wishing.

That doesn't sound encouraging, for multiple reasons. :doh!:

i hope Daboll lets Quinn throw the ball around because the run game will struggle against Tampa's front seven.

Me too...

Quinn in his last season was 4 of 35 in passes beyond 20+ yards with 5 picks...


I hope to God they let that inaccurate shit bag throw the ball. Quicker we can get him to fail the faster we can get rid of Pioli and Co...

Quinn is garbage. please let him throw the ball all over the place, please, please!!!!!

Enjoying Carson Palmer? Selling your future for a broken, has been QB LMAO

Yeah, like they did last week against the vaunted Raven defense. He will throw the ball, don't worry.....and we will run on they ass.....

he cant be any worse than what we've put up with for almost four years.

Right and just because he isnt Cassel... We get it.

But there is a reason he in on the KC roster behind Cassel. I am hoping we see that reason on Sunday...

well, guess we'll see come Sunday, this Tampa front seven is pretty good.
if he's that much worse than Cassel i really underestimated Pioli's job as GM when i said Pioli is Lame, he isn't lame he's dumber than **** to load this roster with such garbage at QB.

Which is why we need Quinn to fail miserably.

Only way we are going to get change in this franchise if for Quinn to Cassel it up!

That's what people were saying prior to Palko's first start.

If he sucks, he gets shopped to all hell next :fire:

Best case scenario: Quinn plays pretty well, Pioli and Crennel get shitcanned, and we trade Quinn for some decent picks.


Worst case scenario: Quinn plays pretty well, Pioli stays aboard and feeds us garbage for the next 3 years.

Remember when Brodie Croyle was going to save the franchise in SD, Just because he wasnt Cassel...

Funny how history has an opportunity to repeat itself.

Nothing good can come from Quinn playing well. He playing well = Extension...

Extension's already happened. No doubt about it.

what about the rumors of Pioli signing an extension?

if thats true we're up shit creek with a paddle.

If the extension happend, then the Stanzi supporters will rise up and blindly follow Pioli...

This is where the thread should have been locked. Quinn is not the answer, rooting for him is just going to get us 3 more years of epic mediocrity. Yes, he's not Cassel, but really this is the difference between shit, and shit with peanuts.

Some day I want to watch my team win a Super Bowl. My other dream, and even more of a long shot, is that someday I want to see you actually want your team to win. I'm not sure the latter is even possible.

I think he has signed an extension, but Clark is scared shittless after the past weekend to announce the news due to the fallout that would occur.


Wait until we win a game, and the announcement will come the next day.

Quinn is not that horrible. He never had a real shot, with an awful team. I think he will come in and be solid, we will go 8 and 8, draft a qb and they will compete for the starting job next season.

Quinns 3 passes looked better than any throw Cashole has add all year. Lol

This is not what I am hoping for, just an assumption.

He announces it anytime between now and opening day of 2013 and it will be a shit storm.

We need to stay on top of this and keep our banners flying. Extension = Betrayal......

He is getting a shot with an awful team.. Yes he is that horrible. hell even Claythan has posted video evidence and fans are still ostriching it...

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

His 11-20 is garbage, too.

http://i.imgur.com/dplgR.jpg

Why is there no middle ground on cp? If you think Quinn can come in and do okay, that means you think he'll start forever and we won't draft a QB. If you think Stanzi should get playing time, that means you think he is the next Tom Brady. Why can't we cheer for our qB's, not named Cassel, to succed AND want to draft a QB?

Too many simple minded folks posting here.

Conspiracy theories and nonsense.

If Pioli goes we have a good chance of drafting our own QB and the new GM won't give a frog's fart in high wind about Ca$$hole...

or quinn or stanzi........ I want everything Pioli that is QB related off this team

I think the only person with a legit shot at staying on the roster is Brady and that's only if he's ok with being no 2 or 3...

I'm not holding my breath on Pioli going anywhere. I can understand the fact that if Quinn does okay then Pioli will be able to say, "see, I brought him in." But, that also means Cassel ass will be gone and for me that is numero uno on the things I want to fix.

This...

I want Pioli, Coaching staff and all 3 QB's MOTHER ****ING GONE FROM THE CITY AND FRANCHISE...

Best case scenario

Cassel and Stanzi are cut
Quinn plays decent and decides to stay w/ KC
We sign vet QB for backup competition
Draft Geno Smith