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saphojunkie 12-07-2012 12:44 PM

Rich Eisen on Chiefs' front office
 
Did a search, and don't think this is a repost.

This morning on Dan Patrick, Rich Eisen was talking about the various coaching/GM changes coming at the end of the year.

He said that everyone knows that San Diego is going to have a complete regime change, as well as Philadelphia (let the Andy Reid to KC debate commence).

Additionally, he thought that Carolina was in line for a regime change, and "depending on how the next couple of weeks shape up, Dallas could be looking at a complete change, too." (I assume he means everyone but the actual problem, Jerry Jones.)

Then he said, "And, despite recent events, the situation of the last week, I think you're looking at a complete change in Kansas City. I'm not trying to be callous, it's just a football thing."

Dan Patrick gave a "yeah..." as in, "sucks, but...yeah."

The nice thing was that he was speaking in terms of what people around the league know/expect. This wasn't his opinion of what SHOULD happen, but what is going to happen.

I am hoping that we are all just nervous nellies, and the truth is no one keeps their jobs at 2-14. This season has been a spectacular failure in every meaning of the word and in ways no one has ever seen before. I have hope that we are looking at a total overhaul of franchise leadership.

And I, for one, do not think that Clark Hunt is the problem. I'm sure that puts me in the minority here, but I think the free agent cock-ups have been more about arrogance and bad talent evaluation than they have penny-pinching. That's just me. I think he knows what has to be done and will do it.

Besides, if you're Pioli or Crennel, at this point do you even WANT to stay?

Hammock Parties 12-07-2012 12:46 PM

You need to listen to BarrysKoolaid. He said Pioli signed a contract extension and will not be fired.

buddha 12-07-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9187821)

And I, for one, do not think that Clark Hunt is the problem. I'm sure that puts me in the minority here, but I think the free agent cock-ups have been more about arrogance and bad talent evaluation than they have penny-pinching. That's just me. I think he knows what has to be done and will do it.

Besides, if you're Pioli or Crennel, at this point do you even WANT to stay?

sophojunkie, it's not even debatable at this point that Clark Hunt is a HUGE part of the problem. Don't believe me? How many million are the Chiefs under the salary cap right now? That by itself indicates that Hunt isn't in this to win...he is in it simple to make a buck.

mcaj22 12-07-2012 12:47 PM

get paid top money to be one of the highest paid GMs in the league

do whatever you want like its a Madden video game and control a real NFL football franchise with your huge giant ego


I mean, why wouldnt Pioli want to stay. He has control of a whole cities sports franchise, he can wake up and walk into his office and on a grumpy day fire an employee under him to feel better about himself.

he can look at the roster and cut/add scrubs for sake of just being bored.

he gets paid a lot of money to pencil push and do what any guy off the street could do in four years and get the same results

why wouldnt he want to stay. he has a team by the balls and will never get a better situation, full control and power like this of an NFL franchise ever again

notorious 12-07-2012 12:48 PM

On "The Herd" they listed all of the upcoming coaching vacancies.


KC was not mentioned, but that's probably due to them not giving a **** about a shit franchise.

WV 12-07-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187824)
You need to listen to BarrysKoolaid. He said Pioli signed a contract extension and will not be fired.

Doesn't everyone listen to Barry? LMAO

Red Beans 12-07-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187824)
You need to listen to BarrysKoolaid. He said Pioli signed a contract extension and will not be fired.

This comment needs to be rerouted to the "Meth is bad" thread.

Bowser 12-07-2012 12:49 PM

Truth of the matter is that this front office and coaching staff sealed their fates well before the whole Belcher incident.

If Clark chooses to retain everyone next year, he is flat out incompetent.

alpha_omega 12-07-2012 12:50 PM

The only sportscaster i hate worse than Rich Eisen is...Dan Patrick.

Bowser 12-07-2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187824)
You need to listen to BarrysKoolaid. He said Pioli signed a contract extension and will not be fired.

He's one entertaining crackhead, for sure.

BigMeatballDave 12-07-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187824)
You need to listen to BarrysKoolaid. He said Pioli signed a contract extension and will not be fired.

I'd pay to spit in that dudes mouth and step on his sack.

**** him.

Red Beans 12-07-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 9187835)
This comment needs to be rerouted to the "Meth is bad" thread.

Because Barry loves the meth...

Red Beans 12-07-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9187841)
I'd pay to spit in that dudes mouth and step on his sack.

**** him.

http://i50.tinypic.com/263tqiq.jpg

Hammock Parties 12-07-2012 12:58 PM

Take a listen everyone. Pioli will be back. GUARANTEED.

http://i.imgur.com/rZiGS.jpg

Fast forward to 28:00 FOR THE TRUTH

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ONBEuF7SOos" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Mojo Jojo 12-07-2012 12:59 PM

With all the lawsuits that go to trial in February against...that is going to cost Clark a lot of money, I think Pioli and Donovan are also named, so they will be forking out a lot of money too. I would think Clark would want to get those guys out of the way and settle his part.

htismaqe 12-07-2012 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187851)
Take a listen everyone. Pioli will be back. GUARANTEED.

http://i.imgur.com/rZiGS.jpg

Fast forward to 28:00 FOR THE TRUTH

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ONBEuF7SOos" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Barry reviewed a MOUNTAIN of information.

Bowser 12-07-2012 01:12 PM

38+ minutes of Barry'scrackaddiction? Yeah, **** that.

htismaqe 12-07-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 9187827)
sophojunkie, it's not even debatable at this point that Clark Hunt is a HUGE part of the problem. Don't believe me? How many million are the Chiefs under the salary cap right now? That by itself indicates that Hunt isn't in this to win...he is in it simple to make a buck.

We'd all love to believe Clark is cheap but the simple fact is that this team is in the top 10 in cash spending.

The idea that Clark is cheap just isn't true, no matter how much we want it to be.

Hammock Parties 12-07-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9187885)
38+ minutes of Fece'scrackaddiction? Yeah, **** that.

Just tune in at the 28-minute mark for comedy gold.

Most of that podcast is just audio he ripped off the SAVE OUR CHIEFS youtube page. Irony.

ChiefsCountry 12-07-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 9187854)
With all the lawsuits that go to trial in February against...that is going to cost Clark a lot of money, I think Pioli and Donovan are also named, so they will be forking out a lot of money too. I would think Clark would want to get those guys out of the way and settle his part.

Whats the word on the business side with Donovan? How do the sponsors like dealing with him? I know he was in charge of Eagles TV before he came here and its obivious with what the Chiefs have done with 65TPT.

BigMeatballDave 12-07-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187851)
Take a listen everyone. Pioli will be back. GUARANTEED.

http://i.imgur.com/rZiGS.jpg

Fast forward to 28:00 FOR THE TRUTH

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ONBEuF7SOos" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

**** that dickbag. Listening to that tool makes me want to kick babies.

htismaqe 12-07-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187888)
Just tune in at the 28-minute mark for comedy gold.

Most of that podcast is just audio he ripped off the SAVE OUR CHIEFS youtube page. Irony.

His needless use of the words "****ing ****" forced me to shut it off.

He's an idiot.

Titty Meat 12-07-2012 01:17 PM

Clay is friends with him and they have a deal where Clay promotes Barry on here.

Hammock Parties 12-07-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9187902)
Clay is friends with him and they have a deal where Clay promotes Barry on here.

No, we're not friends. He burned that bridge a month ago.

Now he's a clown and we're going to laugh at him.

mdchiefsfan 12-07-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9187841)
I'd pay to spit in that dudes mouth and step on his sack.

**** him.

Crackheads will do anything for a buck or two. Call in to his uncensored podcast and make a deal, the lines won't be that busy.

BigMeatballDave 12-07-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187904)
No, we're not friends. He burned that bridge a month ago.

What happened?

Frankie 12-07-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9187821)
He said that everyone knows that San Diego is going to have a complete regime change, as well as Philadelphia (let the Andy Reid to KC debate commence).

Reid has a residence between LA and San Diego. It's WAY more likely that he's the Chargers next HC.

htismaqe 12-07-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9187928)
What happened?

Dragged his teeth...

Marcellus 12-07-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 9187827)
sophojunkie, it's not even debatable at this point that Clark Hunt is a HUGE part of the problem. Don't believe me? How many million are the Chiefs under the salary cap right now? That by itself indicates that Hunt isn't in this to win...he is in it simple to make a buck.

Except you completely missed where Clark has never put spending restrictions on Pioli. Pioli has even stated this in interviews.

Next you missed the part where the Chiefs are spending large amounts of cash regardless of salary cap number which is a bunch of bullshit anyway.

Before you say something isn't debatable you may want o be sure you have good info.

Hammock Parties 12-07-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9187928)
What happened?

He didn't like SOC and started taking giant shits on me.

Then he "apologized."

When I didn't immediately accept that apology the shitting resumed.

So...**** that guy.

keg in kc 12-07-2012 01:40 PM

These...are the Days of Our Lives.

BigMeatballDave 12-07-2012 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187949)
He didn't like SOC and started taking giant shits on me.

Then he "apologized."

When I didn't immediately accept that apology the shitting resumed.

So...**** that guy.

I think that dickbag is just jealous he didn't come up with this idea for SOC.

What is this turd gonna say if Pioli is gone?

Ace Gunner 12-07-2012 01:47 PM

Okay Wendler, this is a national media speculating. I'll give you that even tho.

Count me uninspired. Hunt & fam have too much track laying out another season or two before they will make the move.

Hammock Parties 12-07-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9187980)
I think that dickbag is just jealous he didn't come up with this idea for SOC.

What is this turd gonna say if Pioli is gone?

Nothing, because no one calls him on his bullshit.

Hammock Parties 12-07-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 9187985)
Okay Wendler, this is a national media speculating. I'll give you that even tho.

Count me uninspired. Hunt & fam have too much track laying out another season or two before they will make the move.

When your boils fester and explode, I'll be the first one laughing.

GoChargers 12-07-2012 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9187933)
Reid has a residence between LA and San Diego. It's WAY more likely that he's the Chargers next HC.

FWIW, Acee says it's probably not going to be Reid. There were also rumors of Chip Kelly being spotted in San Diego.

I'm thinking Reid goes to the Cowboys. He's the perfect puppet coach for Jerruh and the rumors have already started.

HemiEd 12-07-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9187886)
We'd all love to believe Clark is cheap but the simple fact is that this team is in the top 10 in cash spending.

The idea that Clark is cheap just isn't true, no matter how much we want it to be.

There you go with those darn facts again.

Sorter 12-07-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187904)
No, we're not friends. He burned that bridge a month ago.

Now he's a clown and we're going to laugh at him.

You used to be friends with that guy?


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2...lyu6o1_400.gif

Hammock Parties 12-07-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9188029)
You used to be friends with that guy?


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2...lyu6o1_400.gif

I tried to be his friend.

-King- 12-07-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9187841)
I'd pay to spit in that dudes mouth and step on his sack.

**** him.

Come on man. No one wants to hear about your fetishes. :)

Ace Gunner 12-07-2012 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187989)
When your boils fester and explode, I'll be the first one laughing.

:D allow me to take this time toROFL

whoman69 12-07-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 9187827)
sophojunkie, it's not even debatable at this point that Clark Hunt is a HUGE part of the problem. Don't believe me? How many million are the Chiefs under the salary cap right now? That by itself indicates that Hunt isn't in this to win...he is in it simple to make a buck.

We've had 4 double digit loss seasons since Clark took over. Its been a dumpster fire for most of his reign. He has totally passed off control of the team to Pioli. The only thing he does is count his money.

Raiderhater 12-07-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9187935)
Dragged his teeth...

LMAO

O.city 12-07-2012 02:43 PM

All this stuff about Hunt.


Didn't he do exactly what we wanted him to do when he took over? He completely changed everything in the organization. An organization that was known for mediocrity, but also known for it's fans accepting that mediocrity and fillling the stands.


Had it been all about money, he could have stayed the course with Carl and kept banging out 9-7 win seasons.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-07-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9187821)
Did a search, and don't think this is a repost.

This morning on Dan Patrick, Rich Eisen was talking about the various coaching/GM changes coming at the end of the year.
Then he said, "And, despite recent events, the situation of the last week, I think you're looking at a complete change in Kansas City. I'm not trying to be callous, it's just a football thing."

Dan Patrick gave a "yeah..." as in, "sucks, but...yeah."

The nice thing was that he was speaking in terms of what people around the league know/expect. This wasn't his opinion of what SHOULD happen, but what is going to happen.

I don't think Clark is the problem, either. I think a really bad investment was made, and that maybe that extra money was/is being held to right the ship in the face of complete and catastrophic failure by said mistake whom we hired.

(Now THAT'S some positive thinking!)

Come on Clark, prove ol' Dad( me )right.

mcaj22 12-07-2012 03:00 PM

it is Clarks problem

look at his soccer teams. He practically invented the entire MLS and after 17 seasons and running two teams he has ONE TITLE to show for it.

ONE.

It's the same model he adopts with the Chiefs.

Raiderhater 12-07-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9188152)
All this stuff about Hunt.


Didn't he do exactly what we wanted him to do when he took over? He completely changed everything in the organization. An organization that was known for mediocrity, but also known for it's fans accepting that mediocrity and fillling the stands.


Had it been all about money, he could have stayed the course with Carl and kept banging out 9-7 win seasons.

Shhhhh! No one wants to hear things like this.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-07-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9188204)
it is Clarks problem

look at his soccer teams. He practically invented the entire MLS and after 17 seasons and running two teams he has ONE TITLE to show for it.

ONE.

It's the same model he adopts with the Chiefs.

I stand by my theory. It's a happy ****ing theory, and I'm going with it.:harumph:

Chief_For_Life58 12-07-2012 03:13 PM

pioli will be here next year to ruin our franchise some more because he doesnt see ggge value of jamal charles or tamba hali or dwayne bowe or derrick johnson. he doesnt care about football. hell if u asked him who is favorite chiefs player was hed prolly say tony g cus he doesnt know anyone elses name

ModSocks 12-07-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9187898)
His needless use of the words "****ing ****" forced me to shut it off.

He's an idiot.

LMAO

What's da matta?

Can't handle his "uncensored" truth? Feces is Raw and uncut, delivering EXTREME opinions to the brainwashed KC football fan.

Clearly, he is far too hardcore for you.

LMAO

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-07-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9188288)
LMAO

What's da matta?

Can't handle his "uncensored" truth? Feces is Raw and uncut, delivering EXTREME opinions to the brainwashed KC football fan.

Clearly, he is far too hardcore for you.

LMAO

ROFL:clap:

ChiefsCountry 12-07-2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9188204)
it is Clarks problem

look at his soccer teams. He practically invented the entire MLS and after 17 seasons and running two teams he has ONE TITLE to show for it.

ONE.

It's the same model he adopts with the Chiefs.

Actual the Hunts have two championships in MLS.

DTLB58 12-07-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9187832)
On "The Herd" they listed all of the upcoming coaching vacancies.


KC was not mentioned, but that's probably due to them not giving a **** about a shit franchise.

Yea, there are several times on national show KC isn't mentioned when new HC/GM jobs are mentioned and franchise QB's also. The other day when Barkley was on DP he teased him at the end of the show talk to you in the spring after Jacksonville drafts you.

ModSocks 12-07-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9188152)
All this stuff about Hunt.


Didn't he do exactly what we wanted him to do when he took over? He completely changed everything in the organization. An organization that was known for mediocrity, but also known for it's fans accepting that mediocrity and fillling the stands.


Had it been all about money, he could have stayed the course with Carl and kept banging out 9-7 win seasons.

It's an inconvenient truth.

Clark fired the incumbent seat filler after years of shitty football, hired the hottest name in the business and gave him the fatest contract of any GM. Timer after time, it's been proven that the Chiefs are a top 10 cash spender, meaning there is tons of money coming out of Clark's wallet.

Yet Fans wanna call him cheap and incompetent when all of the evidence points to the contrary.

Strongside 12-07-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9187824)
You need to listen to BarrysKoolaid. He said Pioli signed a contract extension and will not be fired.

Well if Barry said it then it's true.

htismaqe 12-07-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9188288)
LMAO

What's da matta?

Can't handle his "uncensored" truth? Feces is Raw and uncut, delivering EXTREME opinions to the brainwashed KC football fan.

Clearly, he is far too hardcore for you.

LMAO

:)

MahiMike 12-07-2012 04:09 PM

No better time to get a new GM than when you're picking your QBOTF.

Strongside 12-07-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9188356)
No better time to get a new GM than when you're picking your QBOTF.

And no better time to pick your QBOTF than when you don't have Scott Pioli.

The Franchise 12-07-2012 04:35 PM

Just stopping in to say **** Barry.

Ok....I'm out.

TEX 12-07-2012 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9187821)
Did a search, and don't think this is a repost.

This morning on Dan Patrick, Rich Eisen was talking about the various coaching/GM changes coming at the end of the year.

He said that everyone knows that San Diego is going to have a complete regime change, as well as Philadelphia (let the Andy Reid to KC debate commence).

Additionally, he thought that Carolina was in line for a regime change, and "depending on how the next couple of weeks shape up, Dallas could be looking at a complete change, too." (I assume he means everyone but the actual problem, Jerry Jones.)

Then he said, "And, despite recent events, the situation of the last week, I think you're looking at a complete change in Kansas City. I'm not trying to be callous, it's just a football thing."

Dan Patrick gave a "yeah..." as in, "sucks, but...yeah."

The nice thing was that he was speaking in terms of what people around the league know/expect. This wasn't his opinion of what SHOULD happen, but what is going to happen.

I am hoping that we are all just nervous nellies, and the truth is no one keeps their jobs at 2-14. This season has been a spectacular failure in every meaning of the word and in ways no one has ever seen before. I have hope that we are looking at a total overhaul of franchise leadership.

And I, for one, do not think that Clark Hunt is the problem. I'm sure that puts me in the minority here, but I think the free agent cock-ups have been more about arrogance and bad talent evaluation than they have penny-pinching. That's just me. I think he knows what has to be done and will do it.

Besides, if you're Pioli or Crennel, at this point do you even WANT to stay?

I think you nailed it. I'd just like to add that makes no difference how they finish - 2-10 or 6-10 this has been a disaster for a season. when you consider that's it's YEAR 4 UNDER PIOLI, he deserves no pass.

RINGLEADER 12-07-2012 07:13 PM

Pioli convinced himself that Cassel played well once against mediocre talent, so that means he could (should) do it again. He was wrong and a two-win season is the result.

KCTitus 12-07-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9188357)
And no better time to pick your QBOTF than when you don't have Scott Pioli.

FTR, Scott Pioli drafted All World QB Tom Brady in the 6th round...just sayin.

hometeam 12-07-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 9188796)
FTR, Scott Pioli drafted All World QB Tom Brady in the 6th round...just sayin.

I have always heard its better to be lucky than good.

Mother****erJones 12-07-2012 09:01 PM

Barry's HIVaid is a cock addict


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