Saudis Signal Support for OPEC Cut
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DOHA, Qatar (AP) -- Saudi Arabia's oil minister said Thursday that his country supports OPEC's proposed 1 million barrels-a-day production cut. "We will try to make the market balanced," Ali Naimi said, ending two weeks of silence from the world's largest oil producing nation and giving a quick jolt to oil prices. Naimi's statement came as the cartel's oil ministers gathered in the capital of Qatar for emergency talks on cutting output after a price decline of more than 25 percent since mid-July. Light sweet crude for November delivery rose 70 cents to $58.35 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. |
Saudis must be running out of monay. It's hard providing for 300 kids and family.
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NUKE-EM.....
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Wait...I thought Bush was controlling oil prices and stuff...
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Cruise missiles on OPEC countries capitals.
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I would like to be the first to greet our newest, 51st state, Saudisrelia.
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National retail average for gasoline is $2.22 right now. That's going to go up, folks.
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But the elections have not happened yet!
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I'm sticking with my original projection that the National retail average will be in the $2.65/g range by mid Jan 07, and hover in that range for several months. |
This only confirms that we can not convert to E85 fast enough.
Screw the oil countries, we got corn. |
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You have to have a certain type of engine to run E85 anyway don't you?
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U.S. Corn Production 9-10 Billion Bushels per year. Annual U.S. Gasoline Consumption = 21.9 Billion gallons per year If all the Corn in the U.S. (at today's production levels) were converted to ethanol (process leaves high quality feed byproduct), we would generate ~26.6 billion gallons of ethanol per year. Approximately 21% greater than our current gasoline consumption and 36% greater than the quantity needed to completely convert to E85. In 2000, the U.S. produced approximately 35% of our total oil consumption. If we could reduce our gasoline consumption 85%, we would be nearly independent from foreign oil producers. |
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corn is only a gas saving supplement. it's no solution ... in the short or long term. |
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It is not, not by a long shot. |
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Sorry, but like I said, a good supplement but not a replacement for gasoline. |
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There is a net energy loss in producing ethanol. In other words, more energy is required to produce it than is left in the final product. |
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do hobbits come along and harvest? and who processes ... little bo peep? saw a report somewhere that said it takes 1 and 1/4 gallons of gas to produce a gallon of ethanol. That report was old ... but it's still fairly applicable. |
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And the stuff they put into the ground that makes the 300 bushel per acre corn is made out of what.... And the liquid they spray to keep all the little buggies and weeds out of the corn is created from.... You only get one guess now...it has 3 letters...starts with an o... by the way if ethanal is 20 to 30% less efficient - and it takes 3 quarters of a gallon of corn to make one gallan of ethanol... Where are the savings? |
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Just stop while you're behind. FYI, if we decide to convert all our corn crops to ethanol, we'll need to import food to replace all the corn. |
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and slow. Hi Ohhh!!! You probably didn't even see it coming. :) |
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The US comsumes 146 billion gallons of gasoline per year, not 21.9 billion. |
I could go on and on but, there's no use arguing when no one will likely change their mind. Go find an article that supports your point of view. There are all kinds out there. I'm sure everyone can find one that will assure them that they are indeed correct.
FYI: 35% efficiency is considered good for most energy generation processes. |
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switching to ethanol wouldn't save oil ... it would use more of it. not matter how many willie nelson jr. start singing ... ethanol is not a viable replacement, only a supplement. |
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~60 million gpd * 365 days per year = 21.9 billion gallons per year, |
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Do you know anything about this? |
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Yep lets ruin Alaska for generations-instead of useing Ethanol?? Smart choice.
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Yeah, I like it. |
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http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...light=bitching There she is. |
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Corn would be a nice stop gap, but hydrogen is the way it will end up going. There are several inventors out there who have found ways to convert water into fuel and get outrageous mileage in the process. For people to be scared of hydrogen technology is silly. Hydrogen is as common an element as they come and it can be used safely.
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and since the best way to set up an infrastructure is to have the gas/oil industry provide both ....... it's not gonna happen for awhile. gas station: pump 1 - gas pump 2 - hydrogen oil refinery hydrogen production "refinery" the conversion is a natural one ...... you just need to get them off their "oil high" long enough to do something about it. |
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Russia has huge reserves and are eagerly exploiting them. They just made a huge deep water find, there is more oil in Alaska, off the shores' of California, in Wyoming etc. Everywhere you look there is oil oil OIL. No shortage of oil in the ground, just getting it to market cheaply is the trick. Part of my theory on why Gas has tripled is due to the vast increase in the overall money supply that was created by Zero Percent interest rates that the Fed forced on us after the 9/11 attacks. They had no choice but to pump huge liquidity into the economy in order to avoid a depression. What has been troubling, is how the government has attempted to hide all the inflation that has occurred since they did this. Oil is a real commodity, and if there are too many dollars available, naturally its price is going to float upward as a result. Real Estate is a tangible, fixed good. Have you seen the median price of homes lately? No inflation, BAH HUMBUG. |
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