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DaneMcCloud 02-27-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9445868)
Now he has time to do Velvet Revolver.

All good.

Slash will never work with him again, so no.

DaneMcCloud 02-27-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9445831)
Are there any bands left from that era that are together still and making hit songs?


Seems like the flameout rate is large for alot of those early to mid 90s bands..

Hit songs? LMAO

Yeah, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and a few others. Grunge was a fad that lasted only a few years because the music and lyrics were so depressing. There's not much market for that anymore.

DaneMcCloud 02-27-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9445960)
Depends on your definition of "together."

I thought AIC's "Black Gives Way To Blue" album was pretty ****ing awesome. They've got a new lead singer, for obvious reasons, but he took a back seat for that album and it was mostly Cantrell singing.

Actually, this is untrue. William did not take a "back seat" and sang on every track. But that said, the "reformed" AIC (which is missing Mike Starr and Layne Staley, both of whom are dead) is nothing more than a Jerry Cantrell solo project with another singer that kind of sounds like Layne.

I thought the album sucked and the tracks I've heard from the next album suck as well.

Deberg_1990 02-27-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9446547)
Hit songs? LMAO

Yeah, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and a few others. Grunge was a fad that lasted only a few years because the music and lyrics were so depressing. There's not much market for that anymore.

heh, yea i guess there are not many bands or solo artists for that matter still making hit songs after 20 years. Peoples tastes change over time.

DaneMcCloud 02-27-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9446613)
heh, yea i guess there are not many bands or solo artists for that matter still making hit songs after 20 years. Peoples tastes change over time.

No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.

jd1020 02-27-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9446565)
Actually, this is untrue. William did not take a "back seat" and sang on every track.

He sang lead on only 1 song, if I'm not mistaken. If that's not a "back seat" for a claimed "lead vocalist" then I don't know what is.

DaneMcCloud 02-27-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9446633)
He sang lead on only 1 song, if I'm not mistaken. If that's not a "back seat" for a claimed "lead vocalist" then I don't know what is.

Yes, you are VERY mistaken.

JFC, that's ridiculous.

Omaha 02-27-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9445831)
Are there any bands left from that era that are together still and making hit songs?


Seems like the flameout rate is large for alot of those early to mid 90s bands..

Pearl Jam is reportedly halfway done recording their next CD. Counting Crows just put out a CD of mostly covers about a year ago. U2 has become annoying, but they are pretty huge every time they put out a CD. RHCP have been pretty consistent. Ben ****ing Folds is still putting out great music.

Deberg_1990 02-27-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9446632)
No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.

Ironically, Grunge was every bit as faddish as Hair Metal.

jd1020 02-27-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9446645)
Yes, you are VERY mistaken.

JFC, that's ridiculous.

Here's small snippet of a review of the album...

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In the words of guitarist/vocalist/band leader Jerry Cantrell, the disc has a “bunch of dark, slow, creepy tunes,” and the mood is set appropriately on the crawling opener “All Secrets Known.” As he does on most of the album, Cantrell handles lead vocal duties; in fact, William DuVall, who stepped in for Staley when the band reformed in 2006, is barely audible. Song two, “Check My Brain,” a more up-tempo number powered by Cantrell’s deep, bending riff, features Cantrell and DuVall harmonizing in a way that recalls vintage Alice. It’s not until track three, “Last of My Kind,” that DuVall takes center stage and shows he is doing a lot more than playing the role of Layne Staley. His vocals are full of fire and personality, virtually leaping out of the speakers—backed by a powerful sonic assault that makes one wonder why Alice got stuck with the grunge label early in its career.

DaneMcCloud 02-27-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9446687)
Here's small snippet of a review of the album...

I don't give a **** about the review. I own the record, know the producer and can tell the difference (clearly) between Jerry's voice and William's voice.

To say that William took a backseat is just outright stupid.

jd1020 02-27-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9446761)
I don't give a **** about the review. I own the record, know the producer and can tell the difference (clearly) between Jerry's voice and William's voice.

To say that William took a backseat is just outright stupid.

You aren't the only one who owns the record.

I didn't need to look up a review to know that Cantrell's vocals dominate that album.

DaneMcCloud 02-27-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9446777)
You aren't the only one who owns the record.

I didn't need to look up a review to know that Cantrell's vocals dominate that album.

Hey, Dipshit, go back and re-read my post: I stated that it was nothing more than a Jerry Cantrell solo project.

But to claim that William took a backseat, especially when he co-wrote many of the songs, is just plain ****ing stupid.

Like you.

jd1020 02-27-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9446791)
But to claim that William took a backseat, especially when he co-wrote many of the songs, is just plain ****ing stupid.

I wish I could find my cover for the album but I'm betting I could count the songs credited with DuVall as a co-writer with 3 fingers or less.

Jawshco 02-27-2013 04:22 PM

Saw STP live a couple years ago when they reunited, and they were surprisingly good. I'd heard stories of how they sucked lived, but they killed that night. Tons of energy, and played all their best stuff to perfection.

AIC last album lacked in two areas for me, inspired song writting (some of the lyrics and melodies were painfully bad), and their signature rhythms. As bass player I admire Mike Inez, but he and the drummer mailed in their performances. Instead of their simple groove with a hint of tribal-esque. beats they played straight boring rhythms. It just wasn't AIC for me.


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