Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9753676)

No but, I didn't know anybody was still using 2,4D. That stuff is powerful sh*t!

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9753676)

No but, I didn't know anybody was still using 2,4D. That stuff is powerful sh*t!

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9753659)

OK, all you gardeners, I have an issue.

My neighbor's tomato plants have leaves that are curled and the plants don't appear to be growing as they should.

I sprayed for weeds (2,4-D) about three weeks ago when there was no wind and he asked me about that. I said, yes, I did, but I don't see how your plants were affected by my spraying when mine were not. My tomatoes are much closer to the area I was spraying and they're healthy as can be.

Now, come to find out, he planted his tomatoes in the mud about six weeks ago and we had significant rain and cold weather since then. This scenario will also produce curled leaves and slower growth.

As a reference, my plants were within about 20' of where I was spraying, his are more than 100' away. (I was very careful about what I was doing.)

Another issue is he has some plants that are really healthy within the plants that are suffering. It all makes no sense to me.

Any ideas?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9753760)

****ing vinegar worked better for me than 2-4D. That shit is near worthless.

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9753778)

No it really isn't.



It depends on the formulation of 2-4D. Ester formulations can volatilize (become a vapor) and move a long way. I believe Ester volatilizes above 85 degrees. Amine formulations won't volatilize as bad, but when they do it is at much higher temperature. The higher the rate you applied (it is easy to overapply with a hand sprayer) the more risk exposure to physical drift (unlikely to move 100') and vitalization.

Timing. 2-4D will only stick around a couple days, and probably won't volatilize after the first day, particularly if you put it down in the morning. If you exposed his plants to 2-4D the damage would be immediate. I mean within 20 minutes. 3 weeks later, any effects are not 2-4D.

What does it do to tomatoes? Lays them the **** over. They will literally ****ing melt. They will not be standing. The leaves will technically pucker, but the overriding thing is that it melts the **** out of tomatoes. And much exposure at all will kill the **** out of tomatoes.

Sounds like he's FOS and doesn't want to buy new tomatoes. If you're worried about it, there is probably an extension agent around that could tell you what the damage is. If he's real pissed, ask him to pay for a tissue sample. They can determine if there is any 2-4D in the leaf.

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9753780)

what are you trying to kill?

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9753790)

Tomato Disease Identification Key by Affected Plant Part: Leaf Symptoms

http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.corne...omLeafKey.html

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9753791)

Broadleaf weeds. Probably didn't help that I bought the shit from Menards, so it was probably like 90% sweatshop worker piss.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9753791)

Broadleaf weeds. Probably didn't help that I bought the shit from Menards, so it was probably like 90% sweatshop worker piss.