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ceebz 02-28-2013 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9451420)
So if there's any hope for Alex, it's that he will be accurate in the intermediate range.

2011/2012 Alex Smith 11-20 yards (24 games): 66-120 (55%), 1,162 yards, 17.6 YPC 6 TD 6 INT, 2.75 completions per game.

2010 Matt Cassel 11-20 yards: 59-113 (52.2%), 1,082 yards, 18.3 YPC, 9 TD 3 INT, 3.9 completions per game

I see a QB who not only threw the ball intermediate LESS than Cassel, but completed less pass passes by far and also turned the ball over more in that range.

Hope is not kindled.
:cuss:

Boom 02-28-2013 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9451427)
Yeah, Cassel did that as well. You know, the Cassel we saw last season wasn't the best he had to offer. He was totally shot; zero confidence. I personally think Cassel's best is = to Smith's best, and we'll see that play out over the next four years.

How ****ing depressing.
If I were looking for hope then I'd go with the Smith plays pretty well with a chip on his shoulder combined with the change of scenery might do him some favors angle.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9451420)
So if there's any hope for Alex, it's that he will be accurate in the intermediate range.

2011/2012 Alex Smith 11-20 yards (24 games): 66-120 (55%), 1,162 yards, 17.6 YPC 6 TD 6 INT, 2.75 completions per game.

2010 Matt Cassel 11-20 yards: 59-113 (52.2%), 1,082 yards, 18.3 YPC, 9 TD 3 INT, 3.9 completions per game

I see a QB who not only threw the ball intermediate LESS than Cassel, but completed less pass passes by far and also turned the ball over more in that range.

Hope is not kindled.
Request: can someone put this information in an easy-to-share chart for me?

gblowfish 02-28-2013 02:15 PM
The more I look at this deal, the less I understand it. I just don't get it. Elvis Bono IS Matt Casshole. Here's how I see the side by side:

Specs:
EB: 6'4", 217lbs, 29 yrs old, 7 years experience.
Casshole: 6"4", 230lbs, 30 yrs old, 7 years experience.

EB Playoff record as a starter: 1-1.
Casshole Playoff record as a starter: 0-1.

EB Career Stats: 14,280 passing yds, started 80 games, 81 TD, 63 INT, 36 fumbles, sacked 196 times, 79.1 QB Rating.

Casshole Career Stats: 13,495 passing yds, started 78 games, 82 TD, 57 INT, 24 fumbles, sacked 160 times, 80.4 QB Rating.

Both guys grew up in California. Raider QB Carson Palmer was Cassel's best man. Elvis Bono married a Oakland Raider Cheerleader.

Meet the New Boss.
Same as the Old Boss.

BigChiefFan 02-28-2013 02:36 PM
If we draft Geno, I could sort of understand the move, but as it stands, the move by itself is a tragic comedy.

LOLThanksChiefs 02-28-2013 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 9451596)
If we draft Geno, I could sort of understand the move, but as it stands, the move by itself is a tragic comedy.
A comedy that won't reach it's fullest potential until mid-season.

gblowfish 02-28-2013 02:41 PM
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Frosty 02-28-2013 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9451536)
The more I look at this deal, the less I understand it. I just don't get it. Elvis Bono IS Matt Casshole. Here's how I see the side by side:

Specs:
EB: 6'4", 217lbs, 29 yrs old, 7 years experience.
Casshole: 6"4", 230lbs, 30 yrs old, 7 years experience.

EB Playoff record as a starter: 1-1.
Casshole Playoff record as a starter: 0-1.

EB Career Stats: 14,280 passing yds, started 80 games, 81 TD, 63 INT, 36 fumbles, sacked 196 times, 79.1 QB Rating.

Casshole Career Stats: 13,495 passing yds, started 78 games, 82 TD, 57 INT, 24 fumbles, sacked 160 times, 80.4 QB Rating.

Both guys grew up in California. Raider QB Carson Palmer was Cassel's best man. Elvis Bono married a Oakland Raider Cheerleader.

Meet the New Boss.
Same as the Old Boss.
What I keep being told is that "Smith isn't Cassel - he won a play-off game".

So did Tebow. BFD

mcaj22 02-28-2013 02:45 PM
you can actually make a logical argument if you wanted that Cassel on paper, is better than Smith

how SAD is that

you are talking about a 1st overall pick being equal to a 7th round draft pick that never played a down in college in terms of NFL Production. So really, WHICH one is worse and which one exceeded their expectations. Kind of sad

jAZ 02-28-2013 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9446441)
It's also possible that Andy Reid is just a ****ing moron.
I for damn sure ready to bet on will of the fans here on ChiefsPlanet, any day, over that of a respected, successful, 15 year NFL coach.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 9451639)
I for damn sure ready to bet on will of the fans here on ChiefsPlanet, any day, over that of a respected, successful, 15 year NFL coach.
Who gave Michael Vick $100 million.

Smart guy.

gblowfish 02-28-2013 02:58 PM
Exactly. It's like they wasted the 2nd round pick on a clone of Cassel. If you want Cassel, then just keep Cassel.

I can't figure out why Cleveland or Arizona want him either. The guy blows. He just blows.

R8RFAN 02-28-2013 03:05 PM
Yall scared me for a while, getting Reid, benching cassel... I thought you guys were going to really make it hard for my Raiders but then it happened in typical Chiefs fashion with Smith.

Sorter 02-28-2013 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 9451639)
I for damn sure ready to bet on will of the fans here on ChiefsPlanet, any day, over that of a respected, successful, 15 year NFL coach.
I dare wouldn't take anybody's opinion over Executive of the Decade Scott Pioli. Lawd no. That man is a winner and knows how to build a franchise. Everyone else is just ignorant!!

Sorter 02-28-2013 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9451678)
Yall scared me for a while, getting Reid, benching cassel... I thought you guys were going to really make it hard for my Raiders but then it happened in typical Chiefs fashion with Smith.
I look forward to Oakland skull ****ing the AFCW with Geno.


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