Percy Harvin
 

He's going to be available and I think he's the perfect fit offensively here.

Does have the baggage, injury issues, but he's one of the 5 best play makers in the entire league.

Report is the Vikings will shop him for a 2nd rounder.

Would this entice you to pull the trigger?

Yes please.

Sounds like a headache to me

Badum cha

Could really ease the transition for Geno. He needs a guy who can do what Tavon did to college defenders with little short passes.

Reid will take chances on guys with attitudes. Him and Bowe together though? Oh my lord.

Also I get to absolutely drink blood out of a McCluster skull if this happens. I mean just guzzle it.

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He certainly would help the development.

While I'd love to get someone at the top of the 2nd like Brown from K State, adding playmakers to this offense has to be a huge priority.

We missed out on Titus Young. This offseason is already a bust.

He is as good as Calvin Johnson. I agree.

I would JIMP. He's one of my favorite players in the game.

Would hate to move such a high second but wouldn't hesitate with our third.

He's fast.

After doing dick in the trade market with ***** in town, I don't give a shit. Make a splash. He's worth it. Swing the Walrus balls. This team has 0 top end speed on offense at WR.

He's talented as ****, but I simply have reservations about moving what's damn near a first-round pick for a player with an injury/health history.

Indifferent.

I am also in the minority on this site when it comes to draft pick value.

2nd round picks have like a 40% success rate so I think Percy is at least as likely as that for success

Could be huge in the return game as well. I'd consider it.

Re-sign Albert and Bowe.

1st rounder Geno

2nd rounder Harvin

Pretty good start to making a run at the Bronco's for the West title.

Bout time yall get some Gators on that team.

Do me a favor...

Go look at the previous 10 years of draft picks from 33-40 and name the players that are better than Percy Harvin.

Could I push for a swap of second round picks and a third for Harvin?

3rd, yes.

2nd, no way.

I like this better, but I would do the 2nd outright if that's what it took to get the deal done.

We have Brandon Siler.

Problem is that Harvin has an extensive injury history, has difficulty staying on the field.

Regardless of success rate of that pick, that's still a premium pick to give up for a player that can not be counted on.

Take the last three years as a microcosm, and there are some monsters. Naturally, it's not a given that we'll draft one of these guys; Pioli couldn't if his dick depended on it.

But Harvin isn't a player without flaws, so just pointing to talent is reductive analysis in terms of this potential trade.

This is true, but when he IS on the field he's one of the best receivers, and all around football players in the game.

Would trade a mid 2nd, I think, but not the 2nd pick in rd2, an absolute premium pick for talent that falls out of rd1. 1st pick in round 3 plus a 6th or future 5th perhaps - no question.

True, and if we gave up a second for him, and he suddenly became an iron man, that would be a huge win.

But, that possibility is virtually non existent.

Actually to be honest...is anyone giving up a 2nd for him?

We might be in great position with the 1st pick in the 3rd to go get him.

Before this season he missed 3 total games in his first three years. I don't think he is as injury prone as some of you think. He complains about the headaches and shit, but that could be to get out of practice.

i guess the value of that 2nd round pick is based on hindsight

if they draft a dline or oline with that pick then i want harvin

if they draft a LBer, FS, CB, WR, TE, QB then i want the pick slot


but knowing Andy Reid its gonna be a big fat guy in the trenches and Harvin is a better value than that

I'd give them Baldwin and a 3rd if that's what it took. I'd give up a 3rd this year and a 3rd next year if we could keep that 2nd.

I don't think Baldwin will ever be able to get separation.

I think some team will absolutely give up a 2nd for him. He's one of the most dynamic players in the league.

no thanks

we need to find/develop guys like that not trade for them


just like RB's

I would be in the middle on this one. I love his talent though, and he might be more content in Reid's system. Definitely wouldn't hate it.

True.

However, as he ages, those injuries and ailments become more difficult to play through.

Healing process lengthens.

Here it is....I would wait to see what Reid does with Mcluster.

well Reid cant make McCluster any faster who is slow as quicksand

A case could be made this was the guy Pioli should have drafted over TyJack.

What?

Just like RBs? No, it's nothing like RBs.

How you going to do that? Draft happens before OTA's begin IIRC.

Game changing WR and return specialist in Harvin.

An offense that lines up Bowe, Harvin, Breaston, Moeaki, and Charles along with a young talented offensive line and Geno Smith could be pretty damn good pretty early in the season.

I bet it's Charles that gets used in various ways.

You get Charles open on short passes so that all he has to do is make a couple of Defensive backs miss and he should be deadly.

Charles is awesome, but I would try Mcluster one more time as a person with playmaking ability on screens/drags/reverses..just to see if maybe it was coach or scheme that sucked. If not than we can bring the Boot Of SUCK down on his ass for good.

sure it is

We need to draft/develop quick,elusive athletes and turn them into weapons.


middle round picks that play with reckless abandon


You draft RB's and KR type guys in the draft every year

He'll use both if they are capable

it would be nice...just not going 3 and out would be nice.

Yeah, it's really that simple.

Please. Harvin is an exceptional talent.

He's average though. I mean playmakers.

In a heartbeat....

Also wonder if the Eagles would be tempted to move Maclin...know he's injured a lot but I still believe he can be a dynamic playmaker.

Maclin or Harvin? They each have similar stats.

Dude is fast.

No not for a 2nd theres a lot if great talent at wr in this draft.

I'm not specifically against Harvin.

I just think our system should be about drafting and developing those guys.

You get in the habit of trading for them and you lose draft picks,they cost more, don't last as long and they are often not as productive once with you.

He is on the last year of his contract for just under 3 million...I think I'd rather just draft a kid.

1) he is gonna need a new contract. How much financial commitment would be reasonable for just the receivers? Bowe$ + Harvin$ = ?

2) migrane and concussion issues.


3) lots of good receivers (including the possibility of Tavon Austin) should be available at 34.

I just wish people on this board would go do some draft research.

I just went from 2007 through 2009 (just 3 years) and I didn't see one guy in our 2nd round pick range that is NEARLY as valuable as Percy Harvin.

If we landed a Percy Harvin equal talent at 34 it would be a GIGANTIC win and literally a 5 percenter...

this board DRASTICALLY overvalues draft picks from the 2nd round and below...I love the draft. It excites me greatly.

The last Patriots GREAT draft was when they flipped a 2nd and 7th for Welker and a 4th for Moss.

After the NFL Dream Team Experience, Reid might still be rollercoaster queasy.

I couldn't give a **** what those frauds in NE have done in the draft.

Look at the last three years of second-round picks, particularly picks made in the first half of the second round.

We need another receiver in the worst way, and that's provided we keep Bowe.

Harvin is a great talent, but am I crazy to not want to trade our second rounder for him, despite Hootie thinking second rounders aren't worth it?

If I had my way, I'd trade McCluster and our third for Harvin, draft the best corner we could find with the second rounder, and throw some cash at Maclin to get him here (I think he's a FA?).

Percy Harvin isn't 'a KR type guy'.

He's one of the top 10 receivers and playmakers in the league. He has great hands, runs good routes and is as explosive as they come. He was on his way to an MVP season last year, if you hadn't noticed.

You're acting like Harvin is Devon Wylie or eve Devin Hester. He's not. Percy Harvin is an absolutely outstanding player and we need to acquire guys like that, not 'draft or find' them. It doesn't matter how we get them, especially when they're 24 years old. You're not going to get a guy that's better than Harvin with your 2nd rounder this year. You might get a guy as good as him, but even that is extremely unlikely.

My only hesitation here is that the Chiefs 2nd rounder this year could easily become a 1st rounder in 2014 with a 3rd this season thrown in. It's an incredibly valuable pick and I'd hate to surrender it.

There's an argument against this trade, but yours just doesn't make a damn bit of sense.

Bowe, Harvin, Maclin, Charles, and Geno.

Damn

Don't forget McCluster.

McCluster and Baldwin have zero trade value.

My Patriots point was...

they threw picks at teams for A PROVEN HALL OF FAMER and an up and coming versatile player that they felt fit their system and look what happened...

Percy has top 10 talent...perhaps a 2 cent brain I'm not sure.

If the Vikings called up and said "34 for Percy" the Chiefs would probably be fools to not agree. He's 24.

PIPE dream. Put down the controller.

Would love to make that trade with a team looking to snag a QB at the top of the second, particularly since that team will almost assuredly be a sack of shit.

And Baldwin.

We have a high 2nd, I'd take him for a 3rd.

Assuming hes part of the right 53 l would pull the trigger. What team in our division has a secondary to handle this? Odds of finding this talent in the draft? Odds of finding him At the pick wed give up? If having Adrian and percy is like having two Michael jordans whats bowe harvin And charles?

I'd take Harvin and swap 2nd's. If that's rejected, then, Chiefs 2nd for Harvin, Vikes 3rd and 6th.

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Lets just give them a 7th straight up for Harvin. That seems fair.

Three and a half Kobe's?

This. No thx !:shake:

Id have no problem giving them Baldwin and our 3rd. Baldwin is considered a bust in my eyes.

In my scenario, he's in Minnesota as part of the trade for Harvin.

Baldwin and/or McCluster by themselves would be a net worth of dick on their own, that's why I'd make them part of the package deal.

As far as throwing picks out for Randy Moss, the Raiders were ****ing reeruns to let Moss go for a fourth rounder. Crazy Al had already lost his marbles by then, apparently. Trading for Welker was shrewd on their part, especially considering what they had given up and what Welker had been in his career to that point.

And yeah, it would be hard to turn down the trade offer. I don't know much about corner depth in the draft this year. All I know that corner is our next biggest need behind QB this offseason thus far. Is there anybody that can make an impact at that position in round 3 or later?

Honestly, Harvin would probably be the better get between him and a starting corner, I'd say.

Right.

We could really turn that 2nd into a hell of an asset if we use it correctly. And with the new CBA making veterans more expensive (by reallocating draft dollars), there's a very good argument to be made that the team is better served by flipping that 2nd into a 1st next season and saving the money it would've taken to extend Harvin to use on someone like, say, Justin Houston.

But on a from a pure talent standpoint, we're not going to do any better than Percy Harvin with that pick.

Patience. Let's see how it plays out , princess.

It's hard to say yes or no in a vacuum. If money isn't an issue, I trade that in a heartbeat for a 24 year old uber-playmaker. Every day and twice on Sunday. The chances that we draft a game-changer like that at 34 has to be at 5% or so. Put Geno out there with those two receivers, Charles in the backfield and a pretty solid OLine and you have the makings of a great offense for several years.

However, you sign him to an extension and bring back Bowe? As has been said, that's a lot invested in your WR's. Then do you also have the money to bring back Albert? What about upgrading the secondary and replenishing the DLine? Tough call. I'd try to give the 3rd and another pick or another 3rd from the following year.

I would consider our 2nd and 3rd for their 2nd and Harvin.

For our 3rd? Maybe, but not our second round pick.

Already beat me to it.

This is probably one of the more fair trades I can think of. (only if we draft QB number one though.) Harvin would look great taking those short, quick passes that Geno threw so often to Bailey and Austin.

I'd trade our 2nd for Harvin straight up any day and twice on Sunday. Harvin is a guy that opposing D's have to game plan and scheme for every week. You can never have too many of those type of players on your team in their prime (Age 24).