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Deberg_1990 03-27-2008 02:02 PM

Ultimate Fighting expands to include kids
 
Funny, Apparantly Missouri is the only state in the nation that explicitly allows the youth fights.


Thoughts? I guess its a form of exercise....

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1


CARTHAGE, Mo. (AP) - Ultimate fighting was once the sole domain of burly men who beat each other bloody in anything-goes brawls on pay-per-view TV.
But the sport often derided as "human cockfighting" is branching out.

The bare-knuckle fights are now attracting competitors as young as 6 whose parents treat the sport as casually as wrestling, Little League or soccer.

The changes were evident on a recent evening in southwest Missouri, where a team of several young boys and one girl grappled on gym mats in a converted garage.

Two members of the group called the "Garage Boys Fight Crew" touched their thin martial-arts gloves in a flash of sportsmanship before beginning a relentless exchange of sucker punches, body blows and swift kicks.

No blood was shed. And both competitors wore protective gear. But the bout reflected the decidedly younger face of ultimate fighting. The trend alarms medical experts and sports officials who worry that young bodies can't withstand the pounding.

Tommy Bloomer, father of two of the "Garage Boys," doesn't understand the fuss.

"We're not training them for dog fighting," said Bloomer, a 34-year- old construction contractor. "As a parent, I'd much rather have my kids here learning how to defend themselves and getting positive reinforcement than out on the streets."

Bloomer said the sport has evolved since the no-holds-barred days by adding weight classes to better match opponents and banning moves such as strikes to the back of the neck and head, groin kicking and head butting.

Missouri appears to be the only state in the nation that explicitly allows the youth fights. In many states, it is a misdemeanor for children to participate. A few states have no regulations.

Supporters of the sport acknowledge that allowing fights between kids sounds brutal at first. But they insist the competitions have plenty of safety rules.

"It looks violent until you realize this teaches discipline. One of the first rules they learn is that this is not for aggressive behavior outside (the ring)," said Larry Swinehart, a Joplin police officer and father of two boys and the lone girl in the garage group.

The sport, which is also known as mixed martial arts or cage fighting, has already spread far beyond cable television. Last month, CBS became the first of the Big Four television networks to announce a deal to broadcast primetime fights. The fights have attracted such a wide audience, they are threatening to surpass boxing as the nation's most popular pugilistic sport.

Hand-to-hand combat is also popping up on the big screen. The film "Never Back Down," described as "The Karate Kid" for the YouTube generation, has taken in almost $17 million in two weeks at the box office. Another current mixed martial arts movie, "Flash Point," an import from Hong Kong, is in limited release.

Bloomer said the fights are no more dangerous or violent than youth wrestling. He watched as his sons, 11-year-old Skyler and 8-year-old Gage, locked arms and legs and wrestled to the ground with other kids in the garage in Carthage, about 135 miles south of Kansas City.

The 11 boys and one girl on the team range from 6 to 14 years old and are trained by Rudy Lindsey, a youth wrestling coach and a professional mixed martial arts heavyweight.

"The kids learn respect and how to defend themselves. It's no more dangerous than any other sport and probably less so than some," Lindsey said.

Lindsey said the children wear protective headgear, shin guards, groin protection and martial-arts gloves. They fight quick, two-minute bouts. Rules also prohibit any elbow blows and blows to the head when an opponent is on the ground.

"If they get in trouble or get bad grades, I'll hear about it and they can't come to training," he added.

In most states, mixed martial arts is overseen by boxing commissions. In Missouri, the Office of Athletics regulates the professional fights but not the amateur events, which include the youth bouts. For amateurs, the regulation is done by sanctioning bodies that have to register with the athletics office.

The rules are different in Oklahoma, where unauthorized fights are generally a misdemeanor offense. The penalty is a maximum 30 days in jail and a fine up to $1,000.

Joe Miller, administrator of the Oklahoma Professional Boxing Commission, said youth fights are banned in his state, and he wants it to stay that way.

"There's too much potential for damage to growing joints," he said.

Miller said mixed martial arts uses a lot of arm and leg twisting to force opponents into submission. Those moves, he said, pressure joints in a way not found in sanctioned sports like youth boxing or wrestling.

But Nathan Orand, a martial arts trainer from Tulsa, Okla., said kids are capable of avoiding injuries, especially with watchful referees in the rings. He thinks the sport is bound to grow.

"I can see their point because when you say 'cage fighting,' that right there just sounds like kids shouldn't be doing it," Orand said.

"But you still have all the respect that regular martial arts teach you. And it's really the only true way for youth to be able to defend themselves."

Back in the Carthage garage, Bloomer said parents shouldn't worry about kids becoming aggressive from learning mixed martial arts. He said his older son was picked on by bullies at school repeatedly last year but never fought them, instead reporting the problem to his teachers.

And fighters including his 8-year-old son get along once a bout is over, Bloomer said.

"When they get out of the cage, they go back and play video games together. It doesn't matter who won and who lost. They're still little buddies."

The Franchise 03-27-2008 02:08 PM

I just read this story.

I don't really know what to think. It equals out to sparring in karate, just with more freedom.

Tribal Warfare 03-27-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Hand-to-hand combat is also popping up on the big screen. The film "Never Back Down," described as "The Karate Kid" for the YouTube generation, has taken in almost $17 million in two weeks at the box office. Another current mixed martial arts movie, "Flash Point," an import from Hong Kong, is in limited release.
Who started laughing when they read this when they compared that POS movie to an 80's classic

raybec 4 03-27-2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4652510)
I just read this story.

I don't really know what to think. It equals out to sparring in karate, just with more freedom.

Exactly millions of parents have let their kids participate in Karate tournaments, boxing or jiu-jitsu what is wrong with combining them? These kids don't stand any more chance of getting hurt (if they are properly trained and supervised) than kids in youth wrestling or Mighty Might football.

Radar Chief 03-27-2008 02:49 PM

You’d think if they were this concerned for peoples safety they’d go after boxing first but I guess there just isn’t as much sensationalism there as in a sport that’s comparatively new and not well understood.

Delano 03-27-2008 02:51 PM

Can't be as bad as those kids that support their parents and siblings by practicing Muay Thai in Asia.

JohninGpt 03-27-2008 02:55 PM

Ultimate Fighting expands to include kids
 
That Dan Shamrock dude ought to be able to knock the snot out of your average eight year old.

The Franchise 03-27-2008 03:02 PM

On a much lighter note.....

Joe Rogan can finally compete in MMA........and win.

EyePod 03-27-2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4652510)
I just read this story.

I don't really know what to think. It equals out to sparring in karate, just with more freedom.

I don't think that kids are allowed to spar until older (probably towards the 14 yrs old side of this spectrum). Plus, sparring is much more regulated.

Rain Man 03-27-2008 04:04 PM

Where do I sign up? I can fight kids.

eazyb81 03-27-2008 04:16 PM

It's sounds awful on the surface, but assuming there is proper supervision and the kids are wearing adequate protective gear, I don't see how it's any different than kids wrestling, boxing, or in martial arts.

bogey 03-27-2008 04:43 PM

I am hesitant about this. I visualize a bunch of over the top parents, driving their kids. It's very similar to stage Moms but with physical violence.

Demonpenz 03-27-2008 05:18 PM

good, get the young guys some exersize and toughen them up a bit.

Valiant 03-27-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 4652513)
Who started laughing when they read this when they compared that POS movie to an 80's classic

After watching it, it is the MTV version of the Karate Kid..

Valiant 03-27-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 4652762)
After watching it, it is the MTV version of the Karate Kid..

Let me rephrase that.. After streaming it onto my monitor because nothing was on tv..


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