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DRU 01-24-2013 12:36 AM

Tebow vs. Kaepernick
 
Tebow does this and everybody is going crazy calling him money hungry and pathetic (and called me an idiot for arguing otherwise.)

Kaepernick does it and nobody cares.

I don't get it. Did everybody suddenly realize it's a perfectly legitimate thing to do, or is it just that if you're a good QB you can do whatever you want and if you're not you can't?

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By Marc Sessler
Around the League Writer
Published: Jan. 23, 2013 at 06:47 p.m. Updated: Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:26 p.m.

For Colin Kaepernick, anything feels possible. He's on the doorstep of Super Bowl glory and even has his own dangerously predictable Internet meme.

Eric Branch of The San Francisco Chronicle reported Wednesday that the San Francisco 49ers' starting quarterback has filed to trademark the term "Kaepernicking," per the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

The craze, borne out of Kaepernick's tendency to celebrate touchdowns by flexing his right arm and kissing his bicep, has led to a flood of fan-generated Internet photos copying the pose.

The fad -- which we swear sailors and wrestler-types have been doing for generations -- comes on the heels of Griffining, Bradying, Gronking, and the grandaddy of them all: Tebowing. Reports suggest the societally unnerving streak of "Horsemanning" has nothing to do with the Denver Broncos or their quarterback.

A nation asleep at the wheel barrels onward.

Ebolapox 01-24-2013 12:52 AM

eh, tebow is the QB people love to hate (because of his attitude--you either love him or hate him). kaepernick isn't as polar.

SPchief 01-24-2013 12:55 AM

Sounds like he has a good agent/lawyer

Jiu Jitsu Jon 01-24-2013 01:12 AM

Kaepernick can throw passes.

Tebow is a fullback that sometimes tries to throw passes.

silver5liter 01-24-2013 01:44 AM

Its because Kap is the shit and Tebow is a douchebag

Smed1065 01-24-2013 01:46 AM

If you're a good QB you can do whatever you want and if you're not you can't!

007 01-24-2013 02:47 AM

I didn't like this guy from the start. Really didn't like him when he did it the first time. Now I hate him.

Go Ravens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CrazyPhuD 01-24-2013 04:09 AM

I don't particularly favor either, but at least Kaepernick can get laid after he wins a big game.

007 01-24-2013 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9346555)
I don't particularly favor either, but at least Kaepernick can get laid after he wins a big game.

Nah he will just Kaepernick himself.

NewChief 01-24-2013 06:28 AM

I heard this morning on the radio that he's making T-shirts, and all proceeds will go to some camp/charity that helps children.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-24-2013 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9346596)
I heard this morning on the radio that he's making T-shirts, and all proceeds will go to some camp/charity that helps children.

That son of a bitch...

ChiliConCarnage 01-24-2013 07:17 AM

Tebow wasn't really unpopular until the national championship game where they built him into some voltron-esque combination of the Dalai Lama, MLK jr, Ghandi, Mother Teresa & Plato. After that he was in the media so much it was unbearable.

However, I digress, this is why Tim Tebow is an asshole

http://www.mypokertube.com/files/pho...bb29bf22L.jpeg

Look as men we all understand a certain set of written rules. If you become a rock star or the most famous football player in America, it's your job to nail every hot chick around possibly while doing rails of coke. Taking pictures with them and flaunting that you're going to do nothing with it is a dick move.

Just touch those cans!! They've already got a system setup where God will forgive your sins. If that were me in that picture I'd already be stripped down to my boxers. Tebow is standing their in Ralph Lauren khakis and a titanium chastity belt

I'd like to send out a tip of the cap to REAL MEN who stuck to the code and have fathered small nation states: Shawn Kemp, Antonio Cromartie, Travis Henry. Well done, sirs

J Diddy 01-24-2013 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9346600)
That son of a bitch...

ROFLROFL

Sorter 01-24-2013 08:48 AM

Additionally, Kaep is making way less money than Tebow. I have no problem with him trying to increase his wages.

mdchiefsfan 01-24-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 9346628)
Tebow wasn't really unpopular until the national championship game where they built him into some voltron-esque combination of the Dalai Lama, MLK jr, Ghandi, Mother Teresa & Plato. After that he was in the media so much it was unbearable.

However, I digress, this is why Tim Tebow is an asshole

http://www.mypokertube.com/files/pho...bb29bf22L.jpeg

Look as men we all understand a certain set of written rules. If you become a rock star or the most famous football player in America, it's your job to nail every hot chick around possibly while doing rails of coke. Taking pictures with them and flaunting that you're going to do nothing with it is a dick move.

Just touch those cans!! They've already got a system setup where God will forgive your sins. If that were me in that picture I'd already be stripped down to my boxers. Tebow is standing their in Ralph Lauren khakis and a titanium chastity belt

I'd like to send out a tip of the cap to REAL MEN who stuck to the code and have fathered small nation states: Shawn Kemp, Antonio Cromartie, Travis Henry. Well done, sirs

LMAO

lcarus 01-24-2013 10:18 AM

Wait a minute. How can Kaepernick be a good QB? He was drafted in the 2nd round. I thought only a top 2 or 3 pick in the draft could net you a good QB.

Sorter 01-24-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9347169)
Wait a minute. How can Kaepernick be a good QB? He was drafted in the 2nd round. I thought only a top 2 or 3 pick in the draft could net you a good QB.

Typically, your chances are much higher of getting to a SB from a 1st round QB.

Additionally, Kaep has arguably the best QB coach on planet Earth in Harbaugh right now. I'm sure that has been somewhat beneficial.

Deberg_1990 01-24-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9347169)
Wait a minute. How can Kaepernick be a good QB? He was drafted in the 2nd round. I thought only a top 2 or 3 pick in the draft could net you a good QB.

Do we need to go over percentages again?

Odds of a 2nd round QB becoming a star
Odds of a 1st round QB becoming a star


Which one is higher?

warpaint* 01-24-2013 10:22 AM

One guy has substance to his game and the other flukes stuff up in spite of completing 4 passes a game, as a result drives his critics insane, and gets the hype of a top 5 qb that his on field play has neeeeever warranted at the NFL level.

I like Tebow and everything he represents but that's really all it is as opposed to a double standard.

warpaint* 01-24-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9347175)
Do we need to go over percentages again?

Odds of a 2nd round QB becoming a star
Odds of a 1st round QB becoming a star


Which one is higher?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Perfect response.
No one ever claimed guys drafted after the 1r never pan out it is just a matter of playing odds at the most important position.

Deberg_1990 01-24-2013 10:27 AM

just out of curiosity, why did Kaepernick drop to the 2nd?

too skinny? Didnt play for a big school? Viewed as a runner first?

admittedly, i didnt know much about him until this year.

Sorter 01-24-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9347207)
just out of curiosity, why did Kaepernick drop to the 2nd?

too skinny? Didnt play for a big school? Viewed as a runner first?

admittedly, i didnt know much about him until this year.

My buddy loved him coming out of college. I had literally never watched him play until draft day when they showed highlights. Felt pretty meh about him then. Now I feel like an asshole.

Sorter 01-24-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9347207)
just out of curiosity, why did Kaepernick drop to the 2nd?

too skinny? Didnt play for a big school? Viewed as a runner first?

admittedly, i didnt know much about him until this year.

I think it was mainly these 2

Deberg_1990 01-24-2013 10:37 AM

Too much ink....scary

Sorter 01-24-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9347234)
Too much ink....scary

I love it. That guy is awesome to watch play. Favre 2.0?

DaKCMan AP 01-24-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9347207)
just out of curiosity, why did Kaepernick drop to the 2nd?

too skinny? Didnt play for a big school? Viewed as a runner first?

admittedly, i didnt know much about him until this year.

People miss. Everyone in the CP mock passed on him in round 1. DaKCMan AP stole him in round 2.

kcxiv 01-24-2013 10:43 AM

He better talk to Metta World Peace AKA Ron Artest then, he's been doing it for years in the NBA

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1328226829

Even a shirt

http://cdn.cosbysweaters.com/wp-cont...1/05/bicep.png

warpaint* 01-24-2013 11:21 AM

Cowherd asked the ? to a NFL guy (I was only half listening) and I think I heard the guy say they didn't like his delivery.

I watched him play in college against MU twice and he was kind of blah but that was earlier in his career. Then I saw him against Boise st on a fri night and they upset them. The thing about all 3 games is that I didn't remember him completing a high % of passes. So my impression was just that he was a great athlete but not a nfl qb.

Meh, guys get missed on by the pros let alone armchair hacks on the Internet.

Really the only thing that I laugh at are people that think they know for a fact a player is going to be great or not. None of us know squat but it's fun to discuss and exchange opinions and learn.

Deberg_1990 01-24-2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 9347406)
Cowherd asked the ? to a NFL guy (I was only half listening) and I think I heard the guy say they didn't like his delivery.

Yea, i almost mentioned that too. He does look like he has a little hitch in his delivery or throws at 3 quarters or sidearms. Doesnt seem to hurt him much.

Rausch 01-24-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9347248)
He better talk to Metta World Peace AKA Ron Artest then, he's been doing it for years in the NBA

No one gives a $#it about him or the NBA.

The ENTIRE NBA.

No one's watching...

Sorter 01-24-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9347417)
Yea, i almost mentioned that too. He does look like he has a little hitch in his delivery or throws at 3 quarters or sidearms. Doesnt seem to hurt him much.

Yup. Seems like he's tightened it up significantly though.

Rausch 01-24-2013 11:27 AM

Tebow will be up north this season...

Rain Man 01-24-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347422)
No one gives a $#it about him or the NBA.

The ENTIRE NBA.

No one's watching...


The NBA still exists? How are Jordan and Pippen doing this season?

Sorter 01-24-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9347443)
The NBA still exists? How are Jordan and Pippen doing this season?

Shawn Kemp is doing well. Malone is still delivering mail, IIRC

DaKCMan AP 01-24-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 9347406)
Really the only thing that I laugh at are people that think they know for a fact a player is going to be great or not. None of us know squat but it's fun to discuss and exchange opinions and learn.

I laugh at people who say that no one knows because all they're saying is that they don't know and they want to drag everyone down into their non-knowing serfdom.

:D

DRU 01-24-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9346838)
Additionally, Kaep is making way less money than Tebow. I have no problem with him trying to increase his wages.

This is what cracks me up about this place.

Trademarks are not about financial gain. They're about protecting your image...your brand.

Tebow and Co. did it because the entire nation was going ape shit over his antics. He actually had a much better reason to trademark his image than Kaep does, and Tebow never talked about making t-shirts or doing anything to try and profit...it was simply to protect the image.

Kaep doesn't really have anybody "Kaepernicking" but himself, and he's talking about trademarking, making shirts to sell, etc.

Yet Tebow gets slammed and Kaep is just cool..??

As I said in the Tebow thread about all of this, I'm no Tebow fan, but this particular topic shows just how nuts this place can be sometimes.

Sorter 01-24-2013 11:54 AM

I don't have a problem with Tebow doing it either to make money. I feel that most people would agree that Kaep probably has A) less sponsors/endorsers currently and is making considerably less money than Tebow.

Sponsors/Endorsements are awesome and I applaud any athlete that makes money off them. They should.

Rausch 01-24-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9347443)
The NBA still exists? How are Jordan and Pippen doing this season?

They keep killing me in NBA Jams on PS3.

Really pissed.

I rock the stick with the Mailman and Stockton and........gaaaaWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAHT!

WHY DID THEY MAKE PS3 JOYSTICKS TOO EXPENSIVE TO BREAK!

WHY1!?!?!

lcarus 01-24-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9347175)
Do we need to go over percentages again?

Odds of a 2nd round QB becoming a star
Odds of a 1st round QB becoming a star


Which one is higher?

Oh I'm not saying we shouldn't draft a QB with a high first round pick. Of course we should. I'm just saying, we can still get a good QB in a late first round or beyond. The fact of the matter is, we don't even do THAT. We just don't draft QBs in the first half of drafts. It's annoying.

warpaint* 01-24-2013 12:16 PM

If they don't draft a guy high I would imagine I'll slip right back into apathy.

Sorter 01-24-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 9347652)
If they don't draft a guy high I would imagine I'll slip right back into apathy.

I'll probably find a new team to focus on.

Seattle seems like a nice fit. :)

Rausch 01-24-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 9347652)
If they don't draft a guy high I would imagine I'll slip right back into apathy.

If they don't take a QB (and yeah, I have my favorite, but taking whatever QB they think is best I can live with) I'm out.

QB absolutely needs to be the no 1 priority...

Mr. Laz 01-24-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 9346521)
If you're a good QB you can do whatever you want and if you're not you can't!

more or less


the media flood backfired on Tebow as well

Sorter 01-24-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347677)
If they don't take a QB (and yeah, I have my favorite, but taking whatever QB they think is best I can live with) I'm out.

QB absolutely needs to be the no 1 priority...

I don't know how it couldn't be.

There is no way that Geno/Wilson get just 2 wins next year and look as inept as Cassel has for 3/4 years.

okoye35chiefs 01-24-2013 12:40 PM

oh BTW I have the trademark on CASSELING....

Rausch 01-24-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9347709)
I don't know how it couldn't be.

There is no way that Geno/Wilson get just 2 wins next year and look as inept as Cassel has for 3/4 years.

Even if Clark/Dorsey pick the wrong guy at least they finally tried.

JUST ****ING TRY!:cuss:

Sorter 01-24-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okoye35chiefs (Post 9347712)
oh BTW I have the trademark on CASSELING....

You lucky son of a bitch.

Rausch 01-24-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okoye35chiefs (Post 9347712)
oh BTW I have the trademark on CASSELING....

So you filed and got a patent on having a bowel movement?...

Deberg_1990 01-24-2013 12:52 PM

Ive got first dibs on Smith'ing, Wilson'ing, Glennon'ing or Nassib'ing

kcxiv 01-24-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347422)
No one gives a $#it about him or the NBA.

The ENTIRE NBA.

No one's watching...


So why is Kobe Bryant, Lebron James and Kevin Durant more popular then any NFL player?

hmmmm...

Sorter 01-24-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9347760)
Ive got first dibs on Smith'ing, Wilson'ing, Glennon'ing or Nassib'ing

God ****ing dammit.

Rausch 01-24-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9347769)
So why is Kobe Bryant, Lebron James and Kevin Durant more popular then any NFL player?

hmmmm...

They aren't...

Deberg_1990 01-24-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9347769)
So why is Kobe Bryant, Lebron James and Kevin Durant more popular then any NFL player?

hmmmm...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347784)
They aren't...

Im not sure how we define popular, but i will say those guys "Brand" with endorsements is more popular than any NFL player.

kcxiv 01-24-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347784)
They aren't...

They are by ****ing far and its not even close. Evryon in the world and thE USA knows who Kobe Bryant is, cant say the same about any nfl player ever.

USA or World.

Rausch 01-24-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9347844)
They are by ****ing far and its not even close. Evryon in the world and thE USA knows who Kobe Bryant is, cant say the same about any nfl player ever.

USA or World.

No one gives a $#it about the NBA.

It's become the new NHL.

Deal with it...

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/phot...92-500-333.jpg

kcxiv 01-24-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347854)
No one gives a $#it about the NBA.

It's become the new NHL.

Deal with it...

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/phot...92-500-333.jpg

http://www.vibe.com/sites/vibe.com/f...e-tweets-1.jpg

OK!

Rausch 01-24-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9347844)
They are by ****ing far and its not even close. Evryon in the world and thE USA knows who Kobe Bryant is, cant say the same about any nfl player ever.

USA or World.

No one gives a $#it about the the most talented rapist in the NBA.

Or even the NBA.

At all.

Ratings prove out.

But rage on with your quest for.....well...whatever it is you're raging for...

kcxiv 01-24-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347883)
No one gives a $#it about the the most talented rapist in the NBA.

Or even the NBA.

At all.

Ratings prove out.

But rage on with your quest for.....well...whatever it is you're raging for...

your the one acting like a little bitch.

I never ever said that the NBA is more popular, i said the NBA is popular, they do have good ratings and the players are even more famous/popular then the NFL players.

Rausch 01-24-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9347906)
they do have good ratings and the players are even more famous/popular then the NFL players.

And you're wrong...

Hootie 01-24-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347912)
And you're wrong...

How? LeBron is more famous than anyone in the NFL

Rausch 01-24-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9347925)
How? LeBron is more famous than anyone in the NFL

No, he's not.

Hootie 01-24-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347927)
No, he's not.

Riiiiiight.

Rausch 01-24-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9347935)
Riiiiiight.

What NBA game (including the finals) compared to any NFL playoff game?

warpaint* 01-24-2013 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347722)
Even if Clark/Dorsey pick the wrong guy at least they finally tried.

JUST ****ING TRY!:cuss:

Exactly

Hootie 01-24-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347945)
What NBA game (including the finals) compared to any NFL playoff game?

The NFL as a whole OWNS America, no ****ing doubt. That's not the argument.

LeBron James' superstar status is definitely higher than Tom Brady's...especially worldwide.

Rausch 01-24-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9348014)
The NFL as a whole OWNS America, no ****ing doubt. That's not the argument.

So let it go...

-King- 01-24-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9347875)

Kobe in China
http://turnernbahangtime.files.wordp...-china-450.jpg
http://images.freshnessmag.com/wp-co...2-Wuhan-00.jpg

Worldwide, NBA players are more famous than NFL players and it's not close at all. Even in America, individually NBA players are more popular than NFL players. Everybody would recognize LeBron or Kobe walking down the street. There's a lot of people who wouldn't recognize NFL players.

It mainly has to do with the fact that NFL players wear helmets and you rarely see their faces when they play.

okoye35chiefs 01-24-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9347735)
So you filed and got a patent on having a bowel movement?...

lots of people do it...

BullJunkandIron 01-24-2013 03:57 PM

The NFL draft dwarfs the NBA playoffs in ratings.

lcarus 01-25-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armadillo Skin (Post 9348234)
The NFL draft dwarfs the NBA playoffs in ratings.

Yeah everyone loves the draft. I personally don't sit and watch the whole draft. I'll just tune in when the Chiefs pick. I'll watch the NBA Playoffs if either my team is in it or if it's a good series. My favorite sporting event is March Madness I think. I love it.

RyFo18 01-25-2013 09:33 PM

Kaep's a douche bag for this, but he's a good QB. Tebow just sucks.

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