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Ancient Mayan pyramid destroyed for road fill

Wow. Just...wow.

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Ancient Mayan pyramid destroyed for road fill

By Brad Lendon, CNN
updated 12:18 PM EDT, Wed May 15, 2013

(CNN) -- A Mayan pyramid that has stood for 2,300 years in Belize has been reduced to rubble, apparently to make fill for roads.

Local media in the Central American country of 334,000 people report the temple at the Noh Mul site in northern Belize was largely torn down by backhoes and bulldozers last week.

"This is one of the worst that I have seen in my entire 25 years of archaeology in Belize," John Morris, an archaeologist with the country's Institute of Archaeology, told local channel 7NewsBelize. "We can't salvage what has happened out here -- it is an incredible display of ignorance."

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The pyramid was the center of a settlement of about 40,000 people and 81 buildings over 12 square miles, according to 7NewsBelize. It stood about 65 feet tall and was built around 250 B.C. with hand-cut limestone bricks, archaeologists said.

The limestone is quality material used to upgrade local roads, and it's prized by contractors, local opposition legislator John Briceno told CTV3 News.

"The Mayas use good material to build their temples, and these temples are close to (the village of) Douglas so that means that they have to use less diesel, less wear and tear; they can do more trips per day, and at the end of the day they can make more money," CTV3 quotes Briceno as saying.

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"Like a huge palace or building or a huge temple, it would have had many rooms in there, multilayered rooms so you have rooms for people living, and you would also had several tombs in there of the people who lived in this area here," Morris told 7NewsBelize.

Awe said archaeologists would try to go through the rubble for artifacts.

"I'm hoping that there will be bits and pieces that we can acquire from any kind of work that we do there. But to say that we can try to preserve the building anymore; that is impossible," he told News5.

The mound sits on private land, and archaeologists said they would ask police to take action against both the landowner and contractor, according to reports.

"It is against the law; it is against the nature act to willfully destroy an ancient monument," Awe told News5. "Any willful destruction of an ancient site or monument has penalties of 10 years' imprisonment or $10,000 for this kind of destruction."

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You know, I never really thought about it, but of course stuff like this happens...

That's a shame. Them people are going be cursed hope it's not the end of the world as we know it.

What a bunch of short sighted ****ing reeruns.

Hey, that road was important!

The Mayans were only off by about 5 months. Pretty impressive.

We demolish buildings all the time to make new ones

It's called progress

Progress you can Belize in!

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith 4Ever (Post 9684950)

We demolish buildings all the time to make new ones

It's called progress

Shut up, slut!

This is it... The final sign of the apocalypse.

Locusts? Check
Super Aids? Check
Alex Smith? Check
Belizian Back-hoes? Check

Get your spam and machetes ready, here come the Mayan Zombies.

traffic jams will be a thing of the past.

I was reading about this earlier. Someone is going to be in deep shit.

Now there's Noh Mul temple...

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9684938)

What a bunch of short sighted ****ing reeruns.

I can only hope the douchebags who similarly tore down much of the Coliseum have spent the intervening centuries roasting in hell.

I honeymooned in Belize and viseted the Mayan ruins in the southern part of the country. ..unbelievable they would do that. Belize is a pretty poor country though, and tourism is a big part of their economy. .doesn't make since to do this.

Ehh. Pyramids are overated. They should tear down those in Egypt also. What good does a giant triangle serve anyway ?

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9685241)

Ehh. Pyramids are overated. They should tear down those in Egypt also. What good does a giant triangle serve anyway ?

Tear 'em down the Alien ships and weapons are underneath.

Have you ever read how many mummies from Egypt were ground up to make patent medicines and stuff in the 19th century? It's amazing.

Dkdasdfacac is mayan for no1curr

that's pretty shitty.

Could make for haunted roads. Bad Karma.

Maybe the Mayan calendar was only predicting the end of this pyramid and not the end of the world? :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith 4Ever (Post 9684950)

We demolish buildings all the time to make new ones

It's called progress

This guy LMAO

That is horrendous.

What would you say of this was the only option they had?

For example, not blowing the pyramid means extra commute of 2 hours for villagers which could be cut to 15 minutes with a new road.
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Don't care. Those commuters will live, retire, and die, and the pyramid will still stand (or rather, would have still stood). It's their culture, and their history, and their entire identity, and those buffoons didn't care one bit about that.

I'd like to say that the Belizean government will come down on them like a hammer, imprison their foremen, fire all of the workers, throw their backhoes into the Gulf of Mexico, annihilate their business, and run their aspiring politician CEO creep out of the country in disgrace. I have a feeling, though, that won't happen.

Oh, and this story left out the part about the construction company goon that ran reporters off with a machete. That's a nice touch.

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9684923)

That's a shame. Them people are going be cursed hope it's not the end of the world as we know it.

I feel fine

Not the first time they have this.

Probably public shaming of prophecies that didn't come to pass, ah well.

Don't know why all these tree-huggers are getting pissed, it's just a pile of rocks.

Not even trees

I'm assuming that this pyramid was not discovered last year.

Yeah they shouldn't have done it, but what I'm wondering, is why haven't archeologists ever gotten around to studying the site, searching for artifacts, etc. before now?

Not to say that we shouldn't do everything possible to preserve ancient sites like this.. But this site wasn't exactly a "Temple" like most people would imagine when thinking of that. It was just a mound of rocks. No secret rooms, and no elaborate structures. There wasn't really anything else to be learned from this site. No further study was really necessary. So preserving this would have been just for historic sentimental purposes.

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7797/nohmul10008.jpg

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7273/nohmul20002.jpg

You could make the same argument about the Great Pyramid in Egypt too, though. "Historic sentiment" is also known as culture and identity, which is why it's illegal to bulldoze pre-Hispanic structures in Belize, even if they're on private property, as this one was.

Also, see that hole in the rock, near the top? That was a secret room.

You're really comparing this to the Great Pyramid?

Cause that doesn't work.....

They probably would have built a more impressive structure if they had a better road nearby.

You know they built the Superdome in New Orleans on top of an old cemetery.

They even moved the bodies before they started construction.

See what it did to the Saints for 43 years?

[QUOTE=Fish;9686519]Not to say that we shouldn't do everything possible to preserve ancient sites like this.. But this site wasn't exactly a "Temple" like most people would imagine when thinking of that. It was just a mound of rocks. No secret rooms, and no elaborate structures. There wasn't really anything else to be learned from this site. No further study was really necessary. So preserving this would have been just for historic sentimental purposes.

Tear that piece of shit DOWN.

This was done in Ancient rome too - I remember seeing the places in the marble pillars where they would cut into it and some half standing ruins / structures

History repeating

well, they weren't using it.

Based on those pics Fish posted, I'd say they ****ed up no matter what. Even if it were no longer culturally significant and offered no more knowledge to be attained, there isn't a ****ing thing on either side of that pyramid. Seems to me they could have easy made the road a football field in either direction and saved the site.

I didn't read the article so maybe I missed something.

This is El Jefe's fault. He was stealing rocks to build his custom house he's been yammering on about.

Maybe they will find a bunch of gold buried beneath it.

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9686615)

No one is saying it was in the way. They wanted the limestone for road-building material. Hell, even the thread title pretty much said that.

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9686631)

Maybe they will find a giant sloth buried beneath it.

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Eh, the Yucatan is pretty well covered with tens of thousands of structures like this. While I wouldn't advocate tearing them all down, I don't see that the current inhabitants need to preserve every single one of them til the end of time, either. I wouldn't have demolished it, but I'm not really outraged over it, either.

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 9686734)

:spock: