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mnchiefsguy 02-22-2013 11:35 AM

John Dorsey coming up next on NFL Network
 
FYI,

Dorsey is coming up next on NFLN.

Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 11:43 AM

over/under how how long it takes him to stutter how his first word?



:D

Hammock Parties 02-22-2013 11:44 AM

"Chiefsplanet is a force to be reckoned with."

PaulAllen 02-22-2013 11:48 AM

Nice sweater

mnchiefsguy 02-22-2013 11:48 AM

On now...

Hammock Parties 02-22-2013 11:49 AM

Easiest position to evaluate is kickers. LMAO

Hootie 02-22-2013 11:49 AM

I'm having a tough time taking him serious with those glasses...they are like...way too small for his head.

OnTheWarpath15 02-22-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9425428)
Easiest position to evaluate is kickers. LMAO

They either make it or they don't.

LMAO

SAUTO 02-22-2013 11:50 AM

Kicker it is
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Hootie 02-22-2013 11:50 AM

when he says tweaked his says 'twicked' and it's also bothering me

SAUTO 02-22-2013 11:50 AM

The Ron woof plan
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OnTheWarpath15 02-22-2013 11:51 AM

A lot of football guys view Albert as a LT.

Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9425436)
when he says tweaked his says 'twicked' and it's also bothering me

ROFL

OnTheWarpath15 02-22-2013 11:51 AM

6-8 QB's they are going to meet with.

htismaqe 02-22-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9425438)
A lot of football guys view Albert as a LT.

Oopsie poopsie!

SAUTO 02-22-2013 11:51 AM

Do you view him as a LT?

I think a lot of football people view him as a LT
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FRCDFED 02-22-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9425438)
A lot of football guys view Albert as a LT.

Am I the only one that didn't feel Diary views Albert as a true LT?

ChiTown 02-22-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9425441)
6-8 QB's they are going to meet with.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...MP_EwrKQP0zC3r

Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 11:53 AM

Do you view Albert as a left tackle

"i think a lot of NFL people view Albert as a Left Tackle"



didn't answer the question ... ducking and dodging ... won't commit to anything


typical GM speak

Hammock Parties 02-22-2013 11:53 AM

How many players are you considering for the 1st overall pick:

"I'm considering 333 players in the combine right now." LMAO

Dude is not saying SHIT.

FRCDFED 02-22-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9425438)
A lot of football guys view Albert as a LT.

I didn't get a warm feeling that Dorsey views Albert as a true LT

SAUTO 02-22-2013 11:54 AM

333 player in play for first pick
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OnTheWarpath15 02-22-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9425452)
How many players are you considering for the 1st overall pick:

"I'm considering 333 players in the combine right now." LMAO

Dude is not saying SHIT.

Yep.

Lockdown mode.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-22-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9425454)
333 player in play for first pick
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ROFL:clap:

SAUTO 02-22-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9425444)
Am I the only one that didn't feel Diary views Albert as a true LT?

I don't care what you wrote in your diary
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Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 11:54 AM

Are Chiefs rebuilding?


blah,blah,blah ... no answer ... blah,blah


believes BPA

DJ's left nut 02-22-2013 11:55 AM

John Dorsey might be a dickhead. I can't quite decide just yet.

He just stomped all over some woman that asked him about his previous interview on QBs. He's an interesting guy, but I could see him becoming quite the Napoleon.

Now if he puts that energy towards the bettering the football team rather than cleaning the halls and consolidating power, I can live with it. But I don't get the impression that Dorsey has much of a bedside manner.

O.city 02-22-2013 11:55 AM

Pointless.

SAUTO 02-22-2013 11:55 AM

Wins create a winning culture
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Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 11:55 AM

back tracking a bit from 'no QB a true #1' comment


'That was early in the process when i made that comment'


hinting that maybe he's change his mind

mnchiefsguy 02-22-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9425451)
Do you view Albert as a left tackle

"i think a lot of NFL people view Albert as a Left Tackle"



didn't answer the question ... ducking and dodging ... won't commit to anything


typical GM speak

It was not the best question. 95% of the league considers Albert to be a very good LT...I think it was his way of saying it was a stupid question without actually saying it.

I agree, Dorsey is not saying much. None of the GM's are. They have no reason to tip their hands.

SAUTO 02-22-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9425464)
back tracking a bit from 'no QB a true #1' comment


'That was early in the process when i made that comment'


hinting that maybe he's change his mind

They are all in on qb imo
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DJ's left nut 02-22-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9425461)
Pointless.

They can't hardly even get a straight answer on the comparison between GB and KC.

WAIT!!! SUBSTANCE!!!

It sounds like he likes Poe quite a bit.

Hammock Parties 02-22-2013 11:56 AM

Talking up Poe.

Hammock Parties 02-22-2013 11:57 AM

That's it. Complete BS mostly.

mnchiefsguy 02-22-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9425468)
They are all in on qb imo
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I hope so. My gut tells me they are going QB. Can't wait for the draft to get here.

SAUTO 02-22-2013 11:57 AM

Going to talk to 6-8 qb's this weekend
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FRCDFED 02-22-2013 11:58 AM

They were showing film in the backdrop of our QB's making awful off-target throws and hanging our receivers out to dry. Just terrible.

Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 11:58 AM

seems to have a positive view on Dontari Poe

O.city 02-22-2013 11:58 AM

Damn right this fanbase is passionate. Watch your ass, or you'll be next in the crosshairs.

htismaqe 02-22-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9425453)
I didn't get a warm feeling that Dorsey views Albert as a true LT

Why would he say anything different?

They're trying to sign him and whether or not he's a left tackle is a MAJOR contributor to how much he's going to get paid.

ptlyon 02-22-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9425484)
Damn right this fanbase is passionate. Watch your ass, or you'll be next in the crosshairs.

Take it easy Francis...

DeezNutz 02-22-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9425459)
John Dorsey might be a dickhead. I can't quite decide just yet.

He just stomped all over some woman that asked him about his previous interview on QBs. He's an interesting guy, but I could see him becoming quite the Napoleon.

Now if he puts that energy towards the bettering the football team rather than cleaning the halls and consolidating power, I can live with it. But I don't get the impression that Dorsey has much of a bedside manner.

He's inarticulate as ****, and this is likely coloring our opinions. He's the LB-GM version of Herm without the humor and softness.

Lightrise 02-22-2013 12:01 PM

The Chiefs are not going to look anything like the Chiefs in two years. This is going to be a blue collar rebuilding effort - hopefully somebody else is working the spreadsheet though.

htismaqe 02-22-2013 12:01 PM

Poe is gonna wreck shit in a 1-gap.

He's raw but he's a rare specimen.

O.city 02-22-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9425493)
He's inarticulate as ****, and this is likely coloring our opinions. He's the LB-GM version of Herm without the humor and softness.

Our last Gm was very articulate and he sucked.


I don't care if Dorsey stutters and has to use sign language so the flop sweats aren't noticable, if he wins, hooray.

RunKC 02-22-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425495)
Poe is gonna wreck shit in a 1-gap.

He's raw but he's a rare specimen.

God I hope so.

Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425495)
Poe is gonna wreck shit in a 1-gap.

He's raw but he's a rare specimen.

I know people don't want to hear this but i think Tjax would be dramatically better in a 1-gap scheme as well.

*ducks and runs*

FRCDFED 02-22-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightrise (Post 9425494)
The Chiefs are not going to look anything like the Chiefs in two years. This is going to be a blue collar rebuilding effort - hopefully somebody else is working the spreadsheet though.

Unfortunately, to reverse a culture of losing you have to rid yourself of most of the participants.

DTLB58 02-22-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9425438)
A lot of football guys view Albert as a LT.

The art of not answering the question. :grr:

htismaqe 02-22-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9425509)
I know people don't want to hear this but i think Tjax would be dramatically better in a 1-gap scheme as well.

*ducks and runs*

I'd rather keep Jackson than draft another damn DE.

Hammock Parties 02-22-2013 12:10 PM

I don't care if Dorsey is blunt as ****.

***** was a ****ing charlatan and was constantly trying to snake-tongue the media.

Dorsey doesn't give a ****. He knows his job is based on decisions, not being Slick McDick.

ptlyon 02-22-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9425509)
I know people don't want to hear this but i think Tjax would be dramatically better in a 1-gap scheme as well.

*ducks and runs*

Come back here you!!! :cuss:

-King- 02-22-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9425459)
John Dorsey might be a dickhead. I can't quite decide just yet.

He just stomped all over some woman that asked him about his previous interview on QBs. He's an interesting guy, but I could see him becoming quite the Napoleon.

Now if he puts that energy towards the bettering the football team rather than cleaning the halls and consolidating power, I can live with it. But I don't get the impression that Dorsey has much of a bedside manner.

I absolutely hate hearing him talk. Hes worse than Pioli. Pioli was at least tolerable. Dorsey is unbearable.

But if he makes good picks, how he talks to the media wont mean shit.
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Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425521)
I'd rather keep Jackson than draft another damn DE.

me too ... it's going to take a major drop in $ though.

most players won't take a 60% cut in pay with their existing team


I think they feel embarrassed about it ... they would rather move to another team and take a 70% cut.

Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9425526)
Come back here you!!! :cuss:

http://www.hazelwoodschools.org/Scho...mages/run4.gif

BigCatDaddy 02-22-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425521)
I'd rather keep Jackson than draft another damn DE.

Not at his current price tag.

DJ's left nut 02-22-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9425493)
He's inarticulate as ****, and this is likely coloring our opinions. He's the LB-GM version of Herm without the humor and softness.

He just doesn't have any tact.

"Well let me tell you something..." is the verbal equivalent of drawing back your fist. I mean damn, you don't have to go to executive training to know that.

I'm not going to say that it will interfere with his ability to be a great GM - afterall, that attitude and style can be put to good use if it's directed in the right fashion.

But it is certainly different and is probably going to be offputting to many of us at times.

If he doesn't win in the next 3 years, just wait - he'll get that 'arrogant prick' tag just as badly as Pioli did.

It's just something worth watching, that's all. If he handles everyone like that, he's going to have some unhappy staff and I'd really hate to see that. I think that's part of the problem with the Pioli regime, that poison atmosphere really does trickle down to all parts of the team, including the roster. I hope we don't have that again, even if it's by accident.

mnchiefsguy 02-22-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425521)
I'd rather keep Jackson than draft another damn DE.

I am only okay with keeping Jackson if he takes a major, major, paycut. No way is Jackson worth 14 million next year.

DJ's left nut 02-22-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9425509)
I know people don't want to hear this but i think Tjax would be dramatically better in a 1-gap scheme as well.

*ducks and runs*

Every D-Lineman will be better in a 1-gap; they're asked to be more aggressive.

That said, I don't see anything in Jax skill-set to suggest he's better suited for a 1-gap. His first step isn't great, he has no pass-rushing moves to speak of and he isn't exactly smart about play recognition so he'll get abused by misdirection if allowed to just aggressively pursue.

Oh sure, he'll probably be more productive, but his skill-set is still better suited to a 2-gap. He's just a lousy draft pick all-around.

BigCatDaddy 02-22-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9425539)
He just doesn't have any tact.

"Well let me tell you something..." is the verbal equivalent of drawing back your fist. I mean damn, you don't have to go to executive training to know that.

I'm not going to say that it will interfere with his ability to be a great GM - afterall, that attitude and style can be put to good use if it's directed in the right fashion.

But it is certainly different and is probably going to be offputting to many of us at times.

If he doesn't win in the next 3 years, just wait - he'll get that 'arrogant prick' tag just as badly as ***** did.

It's just something worth watching, that's all. If he handles everyone like that, he's going to have some unhappy staff and I'd really hate to see that. I think that's part of the problem with the ***** regime, that poison atmosphere really does trickle down to all parts of the team, including the roster. I hope we don't have that again, even if it's by accident.

Let's be honest. Aren't most GM's somewhat arrogant prics anyways?

htismaqe 02-22-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9425537)
Not at his current price tag.

He won't be kept at his current price tag, so that discussion is moot.

htismaqe 02-22-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 9425540)
I am only okay with keeping Jackson if he takes a major, major, paycut. No way is Jackson worth 14 million next year.

See my previous post.

splatbass 02-22-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9425484)
Damn right this fanbase is passionate. Watch your ass, or you'll be next in the crosshairs.

SOC has given some of you guys a big head.

BigCatDaddy 02-22-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425547)
He won't be kept at his current price tag, so that discussion is moot.

I'd still rather boot his ass out anyways even if he played for free. Him and Cassell are the signature failures of the Pioli era and just need to disappear.

htismaqe 02-22-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9425555)
I'd still rather boot his ass out anyways even if he played for free. Him and Cassell are the signature failures of the ***** era and just need to disappear.

If you have a replacement lined up that's already on the team or available in free agency fine.

I'm not wasting another god damn draft pick on a DE.

Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9425555)
I'd still rather boot his ass out anyways even if he played for free. Him and Cassell are the signature failures of the ***** era and just need to disappear.

just silly

BigCatDaddy 02-22-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425563)
If you have a replacement lined up that's already on the team or available in free agency fine.

I'm not wasting another god damn draft pick on a DE.

You could probably find an UDFA to give you that level of suckitude.

DeezNutz 02-22-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9425539)
He just doesn't have any tact.

To me, I see the stereotypical stupid jock. Now, I don't think he's an idiot, but it's clear that he struggles to maintain "GM speak" in front of the mic; he fumbles around so damn much that he makes me feel embarrassed for him.

Lightrise 02-22-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9425539)
He just doesn't have any tact.

"Well let me tell you something..." is the verbal equivalent of drawing back your fist. I mean damn, you don't have to go to executive training to know that.

I'm not going to say that it will interfere with his ability to be a great GM - afterall, that attitude and style can be put to good use if it's directed in the right fashion.

But it is certainly different and is probably going to be offputting to many of us at times.

If he doesn't win in the next 3 years, just wait - he'll get that 'arrogant prick' tag just as badly as ***** did.

It's just something worth watching, that's all. If he handles everyone like that, he's going to have some unhappy staff and I'd really hate to see that. I think that's part of the problem with the ***** regime, that poison atmosphere really does trickle down to all parts of the team, including the roster. I hope we don't have that again, even if it's by accident.

It is different and I don't know where I'm at yet. Makes me wonder if this is the reason that Hunt says he will be much more involved. Could he be moving in the Jerry Jones direction when it comes to putting forth the face of the franchise? That's what I think, and if its not the plan it will be soon LOL

Mr. Laz 02-22-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9425570)
You could probably find an UDFA to give you that level of suckitude.

main problem with this is that Tjax didn't suck


He clearly wasn't worth where he was drafted but he did a decent job at what he was asked to do. I also saw some flashes of something better when he has a chance to be more aggressive.

He's not worth 14 million per but i would be interested to see what he can do in a 1-gap at something like 4 million per. I doubt he takes a cut like that though so he will probably be gone.

htismaqe 02-22-2013 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9425577)
To me, I see the stereotypical stupid jock.

I am absolutely pumped about having Dorsey.

But I agree with this.

DJ's left nut 02-22-2013 12:31 PM

If T-Jax were a 3rd round pick, he'd have been an adequate pick. Not a good one, but an adequate one. Laz is right - he didn't totally suck (all the time), but he damn sure wasn't good either. He's one of those replaceable players that you look to upgrade but every team has (even the good ones).

That's why you try to re-structure him. In the end, however, if you can't get him to agree to a market rate for an average DE, you cut him and go sign another DE at the market rate for that ability.

He's not a guy you worry about one way or the other.

"Tyson - this is what we'll pay you"
"No, I won't take a paycut"
"Okay...well we're gonna need your playbook"

It's not a decision that worries me in the slightest. Either he'll take a cut to the market rate for this position and ability or he won't and we'll bring someone in here that makes sense for that contribution. Works for me.

DeezNutz 02-22-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425596)
I am absolutely pumped about having Dorsey.

But I agree with this.

With his lack of savvy in front of the media, Dorsey is the perfect type of match for a coach like Reid. The latter will always be the face of the franchise in terms of coaches/FO types, and Dorsey is essentially forced to stick to what he knows and does best, acquiring personnel.

Pioli used to talk about wanting the coach to be the face, but that was disingenuous bullshit; he wanted the accolades and attention.

Dorsey's ineptitude with the mic obviates this potential problem.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2013 12:36 PM

You hope that Dorsey is a personnel savant, because he's probably not speaking at the Sloan Kettering conference any time soon.

DaneMcCloud 02-22-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9425577)
To me, I see the stereotypical stupid jock. Now, I don't think he's an idiot, but it's clear that he struggles to maintain "GM speak" in front of the mic; he fumbles around so damn much that he makes me feel embarrassed for him.

I've watched this interview twice now and while I can kind of agree, I think it's more a lack of preparedness and inexperience than anything else.

He kind of has that "Dickhead High School Football Coach" vibe to him but I chalk that up more to confidence than being a dickhead.

DaneMcCloud 02-22-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9425600)
If T-Jax were a 3rd round pick, he'd have been an adequate pick. Not a good one, but an adequate one. Laz is right - he didn't totally suck (all the time), but he damn sure wasn't good either. He's one of those replaceable players that you look to upgrade but every team has (even the good ones).

That's why you try to re-structure him. In the end, however, if you can't get him to agree to a market rate for an average DE, you cut him and go sign another DE at the market rate for that ability.

He's not a guy you worry about one way or the other.

"Tyson - this is what we'll pay you"
"No, I won't take a paycut"
"Okay...well we're gonna need your playbook"

It's not a decision that worries me in the slightest. Either he'll take a cut to the market rate for this position and ability or he won't and we'll bring someone in here that makes sense for that contribution. Works for me.

If the Chiefs can sign Jackson to a 3 year contract for about $3 million per, I'd be thrilled. If he wants more, he can walk.

PaulAllen 02-22-2013 12:37 PM

I like it. Much better than the slick-politician speak we got from Scott

Deberg_1990 02-22-2013 12:38 PM

Dont give a sh*t how good he is in front of a camera.

All i care about is his ability make good picks and build a team.

mnchiefsguy 02-22-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9425609)
If the Chiefs can sign Jackson to a 3 year contract for about $3 million per, I'd be thrilled. If he wants more, he can walk.

I agree with you and DJ. No negotiation necessary...make Jackson an offer, if he says no, kick him to the curb.


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