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Titty Meat 07-22-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8759669)
I don't give a shit about Todd anymore, but without the injuries, they win 9 or 10 and the division. Haley would still be HC.

Teams with Elite QBs can overcome deficiencies in coaching.

See Indy.

Would he still be the coach? There was talk that Pioli wanted to dump him last off season.

Regardless he was an awful gameday coach. I saw a Herm Edwards coached team in 2008 with a bunch of rookies almost beat the Patriots. Howcome Herm Edwards can have a team prepared to play but Haley can't? It says a lot about him as a head coach.

chiefzilla1501 07-22-2012 02:49 PM

Bruce Arians was a lousy coordinator. Any knowledgeable Steelers fan will tell you that. Big Ben pretty much saved his job.

Haley's style of offense is tailor made for Pittsburgh. I can guarantee they are going to go back to smash mouth football. The Chiefs' offense would have been downright nasty in 2010 if we had a QB who could didn't shit his leg on every 3rd down.

BigMeatballDave 07-22-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8759676)
More love for a shit HC than I've ever seen before.

Haley was ****ing terrible, and we obviously all know what we have in our QB; the two were a perfect storm of suck.

What love?

gblowfish 07-22-2012 02:52 PM

Haley will probably do fine as an AC. He was in way over his head as a HC. He micro-managed, was a dick to his staff, was paranoid and hard headed at the end, and, oh yeah, was a lying sack of shit on several occasions.

But he'll probably do fine as something other than the "head guy." Same thing as Gunther. Shit as a head coach, OK as a DC.

jd1020 07-22-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8759552)
No Cassel.

It was a joke. He looks as pissed off as ever in that pic.

Hammock Parties 07-22-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8759694)
Haley will probably do fine as an AC.

He's a cool guy.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-22-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8759694)
Haley will probably do fine as an AC. He was in way over his head as a HC. He micro-managed, was a dick to his staff, was paranoid and hard headed at the end, and, oh yeah, was a lying sack of shit on several occasions.

But he'll probably do fine as something other than the "head guy." Same thing as Gunther. Shit as a head coach, OK as a DC.

Gun should have been canned following Detroit's playoff game last year.

Titty Meat 07-22-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8759675)
And why are the blow outs a big deal?

A lose is a loss.

It's hard to get blown out in the NFL given the talent is so equal. It's not just the blowouts it's also the demeanor on the sideline. Haley's actions were embarrassing and not indicative of a leader at all.

BigMeatballDave 07-22-2012 03:00 PM

I just find all the Haley butthurt funny.

If we had a legit QB who could chuck it down field, the O would have been very good

Since when did the HC matter more than the QB?

Titty Meat 07-22-2012 03:02 PM

Nobody is saying the HC is more important than the QB but we could have had Eli Manning and still lost those first 2 games last year because the team was that unprepared.

BigMeatballDave 07-22-2012 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8759714)
It's hard to get blown out in the NFL given the talent is so equal. It's not just the blowouts it's also the demeanor on the sideline. Haley's actions were embarrassing and not indicative of a leader at all.

Its not hard at all.

All you need is a lousy QB who cannot sustain drives and gives the ball away.

BigMeatballDave 07-22-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8759741)
Nobody is saying the HC is more important than the QB but we could have had Eli Manning and still lost those first 2 games last year because the team was that unprepared.

Bull shit

jd1020 07-22-2012 03:05 PM

I dont get the whole argument defending Haley because he didn't have a top 5 QB in KC.

He was a terrible coach. The end. Having a terrible QB doesn't excuse the lack of preparedness of the entire team.

Haley's offense in a nutshell: Draw to McCluster.

Titty Meat 07-22-2012 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8759746)
Its not hard at all.

All you need is a lousy QB who cannot sustain drives and gives the ball away.

Yeah Herm had those and still didn't get blown out as much.

If I had a million dollars i'd be a millionaire. You arguing that Haley needs a great QB to cover up his flaws just proves the point Haley is a shitty coach.

chiefzilla1501 07-22-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8759753)
I dont get the whole argument defending Haley because he didn't have a top 5 QB in KC.

He was a terrible coach. The end. Having a terrible QB doesn't excuse the lack of preparedness of the entire team.

Because the same people who screamed for 5 years that this team is worthless without a franchise QB are now the ones who say Haley is a lousy coach because he couldn't win without one.

I don't know if Haley was going to be a good coach or a great coach. I do know that he deserved better than a front office stubbornly clinging to a bad QB. And he deserved better than the petty micromanagement and head games that Pioli was pushing on him.


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