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Marty Mac Ver 2.0 10-08-2012 07:55 AM

Eric Winston is Full of Shit
 
And this video proves it....why doesn't anyone point out that it was flailing block attempt from his knees that sent his guy into Cassel


http://www.kctv5.com/story/19761458/...ce=twitterfeed

tomahawk kid 10-08-2012 07:59 AM

Yeah - you hear a few idiots in there, but by in large that was nothing like what the media is making it out to be.

Rasputin 10-08-2012 08:02 AM

First sounded like cheering for JC making a big play resulting first down. Then just loud mumbling, then some clapping and some cheers for Cassell getting up and walking off the field that's pretty typical for any fans stadium.

FAX 10-08-2012 08:03 AM

Guys ... we need to get this video in front of the media wonks who have "reported" that Chiefs fans are stupid, classless rednecks.

The internet thing is rife with tools that can be used to make this happen.

So, in the immortal words of Marty Schottenheimer, "Let's go to work."

FAX

FAX 10-08-2012 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8991384)
First sounded like cheering for JC making a big play resulting first down. Then just loud mumbling, then some clapping and some cheers for Cassell getting up and walking off the field that's pretty typical for any fans stadium.

Yep.

FAX

Reerun_KC 10-08-2012 08:05 AM

Winston is a bitch....

redfan 10-08-2012 08:05 AM

Pretty much every news report I've seen has portrayed the fans as classless. They even lead with a "bad fans" line.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 10-08-2012 08:07 AM

loved that Rich Baldinger called his ass out. I can't get those vid's into You Tube Format...but we need to separate them out. I am not letting this die. Set the truth right....

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 08:07 AM

i'm guessing this video won't be mentioned by the 1000 outlets that ripped chiefs fans this morning...

Rasputin 10-08-2012 08:07 AM

I think Winston just got Butt hurt syndrome.

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 08:08 AM

this needs to be sent 100000 times to winston's twitter

Reerun_KC 10-08-2012 08:10 AM

keep pushing it out...
Social media is powerful.

Deberg_1990 10-08-2012 08:11 AM

Heh, Colin Herd about to discuss "Fan cheering Cassel getting hurt" after the commercial break.

strokerls1 10-08-2012 08:16 AM

Shared on my FB. Get it out there. DO WORK!

pimpchief 10-08-2012 08:17 AM

Just tweeted nine pics of my penis to Winston.

FAX 10-08-2012 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpchief (Post 8991436)
Just tweeted nine pics of my penis to Winston.

Good work, Mr. pimpchief. Keep it up.

FAX

Deberg_1990 10-08-2012 08:22 AM

Covitz on Herds show right now defending fans. Saying that it was just fans cheering for a QB change, not for Cassel injury.

FlaChief58 10-08-2012 08:23 AM

The fans just got blasted on ESPN, siding with Winston. They showed the hit but no audio. Pissholy is sucessfully turning the attention away from himself and onto the "disgusting fans" in KC

ChiTown 10-08-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8991444)
Good work, Mr. pimpchief. Keep it up.

FAX

LMAO

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8991446)
Covitz on Herds show right now defending fans. Saying that it was just fans cheering for a QB change, not for Cassel injury.

yeah, he did a good job making distinctions...

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 08:28 AM

Cowherd didn't even seem interested, blamed it on some drunk fans and went to commercial...

Iowanian 10-08-2012 08:28 AM

First of all, yet another whiffed block by Winston is more responsible for this injury than any FAN.

2nd, there is a lot happening. During the running play, Most fans are still watching that play end, listening to the announcer. Bowe is encouraging fans to cheer....Quinn is getting up. Most fans cheering at that point are probably welcoming him to the game, and you hear plenty of clapping when Cassel is walking off of the field.

Winston, Block more, talk less.

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 08:29 AM

do they announce players before games?

i hope we boo the shit out of winston the rest of the season

Omaha 10-08-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 8991371)
And this video proves it....why doesn't anyone point out that it was flailing block attempt from his knees that sent his guy into Cassel


http://www.kctv5.com/story/19761458/...ce=twitterfeed

I posted this theory yesterday. The TV went to a replay when the crowd cheered, but I assumed that he had gotten up. The announcers stated that the crowd was cheering Brady Quinn, but, after watching your video, they were cheering when he got up off the turf and Bowe pumping up the crowd.

acasas4 10-08-2012 08:31 AM

I didn't hear anyone cheering when Cassel was on the ground. When he got up and walked off the field people clapped. Pretty typical.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 10-08-2012 08:32 AM

Bam: ERIC WINSTON MUST BE BOO'D EVERYTIME HE IS INTRO'D AT ARROWHEAD.

suds79 10-08-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8991459)
Cowherd didn't even seem interested, blamed it on some drunk fans and went to commercial...

Of course he didn't. It's a story that doesn't involve NY or LA :p

That's just how he is.

Al Bundy 10-08-2012 08:32 AM

Winston is a turd.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-08-2012 08:33 AM

This is all overblown. This was just an attempt by Winston to draw the attention away from this team's shitty play and direct it toward the fans. Hey we're playing like shit let's make up shit about the fans. If anyone is classless, it's Winston and the team not taking responsibility and owning up to an abysmal 1-4 start.

Window Licking Whiner 10-08-2012 08:34 AM

@Gochiefsva: http://t.co/TSJmaRAt. Better start working in your apology Eric @ericwinston @Whitlockjason @kcchiefs @espn

Omaha 10-08-2012 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8991478)
@Gochiefsva: http://t.co/TSJmaRAt. Better start working in your apology Eric @ericwinston @Whitlockjason @kcchiefs @espn

I love this.

Deberg_1990 10-08-2012 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8991475)
This is all overblown. This was just an attempt by Winston to draw the attention away from this team's shitty play and direct it toward the fans. Hey we're playing like shit let's make up shit about the fans. If anyone is classless, it's Winston and the team not taking responsibility and owning up to an abysmal 1-4 start.


The conspiracy theorist in me believes Winston is just being a mouthpiece for Pioli.
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Dave Lane 10-08-2012 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 8991450)
The fans just got blasted on ESPN, siding with Winston. They showed the hit but no audio. Pissholy is sucessfully turning the attention away from himself and onto the "disgusting fans" in KC

Pioli with the smokescreen about how crazy fans are to Clark this very minute.

Rain Man 10-08-2012 08:44 AM

It looks to me like Winston was feeling some misplaced guilt about getting Cassel hurt.

ChiTown 10-08-2012 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8991512)
It looks to me like Winston was feeling some misplaced guilt about getting Cassel hurt.

Exactly. He's been awful thus far, and he knows it played a part in getting Matthew hurt

TEX 10-08-2012 08:47 AM

Winston just let his emotions get the better of him. He then corrected his statement by saying he was pissed at all those who booed Cassel getting hurt. He is loyal to his QB. Plus, I'm sure he felt partly responsible. I'd love to have a guy like that have my back anytime, but especially if I was sucking as bad as Cassel at what I did for a living.

-King- 10-08-2012 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8991517)
Exactly. He's been awful thus far, and he knows it played a part in getting Matthew hurt

:spock: Winston has been awful? In what way?
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htismaqe 10-08-2012 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8991505)
The conspiracy theorist in me believes Winston is just being a mouthpiece for Pioli.
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Yep.

The guys on the Border Patrol are talking about it (and have been all morning).

NOBODY is talking about how BAD Cassel played up to the point he was injured.

EVERYBODY is talking about classless fans cheering an injury.

COchief 10-08-2012 08:51 AM

Great video, thanks for finding it. Clearly shows that what Winston said was a crock of shit.

The most interesting thing about the video, is how few Chiefs kneeled down or even looked like they cared about Cassel being hurt, I think DMC/Winston were the only two that kneeled down. Funny moment when Pollard was kneeling and no other Chiefs were around. Cassel has killed this team's spirit and we are not the only ones who obviously want him to "don't go away mad, just go away".

Just rewatched it, in the beginning Bowe takes off his helmet and just saunters off without a care in the world.

-King- 10-08-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8991505)
The conspiracy theorist in me believes Winston is just being a mouthpiece for Pioli.
Posted via Mobile Device

LMAO Why? Why would Pioli do this?
Posted via Mobile Device

notorious 10-08-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8991459)
Cowherd didn't even seem interested, blamed it on some drunk fans and went to commercial...

He usually goes with the opposite of what the other talking dumbasses on ESPN are talking about.

He knows that the Chiefs will draw less listeners, so he is going to push it aside. Besides, if the Chiefs would have won, nobody would have said shit about the cheering.

Mr. Arrowhead 10-08-2012 09:14 AM

Looks like Bowe is leading the cheers lol

Omaha 10-08-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8991505)
The conspiracy theorist in me believes Winston is just being a mouthpiece for Pioli.
Posted via Mobile Device

He was probably frustrated that they were being booed all day for conservative & mostly inept play on offense.

htismaqe 10-08-2012 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8991548)
LMAO Why? Why would Pioli do this?
Posted via Mobile Device

It's pretty obvious.

Don't be obtuse.

TEX 10-08-2012 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8991524)
:spock: Winston has been awful? In what way?
Posted via Mobile Device

He hasn't been. I don't know where Chi is coming from with that take. He's ALWAYS been very good at run blocking and very average in pass protection. That's how he's played thus far in KC.

patteeu 10-08-2012 09:19 AM

Eric Winston should be embarrassed. He should be embarrassed for his contribution to a team that's becoming a national laughing stock and a shameful public face of the city of Kansas City. Maybe he should work on getting a lead in a game for a change before he turns his focus on the fans who are rightfully embarrassed by the product he and his teammates have put on the field.

I don't think Cassel's injury should have been cheered, but the team, it's coaches, and Clark Hunt need to recognize their contribution to a situation where that happens.

ct 10-08-2012 09:22 AM

What's sad is Eric Winston is the 1 freakin guy on the whole team who actually has been stepping up to be the leader for this team. Now he's turned on the fans and they are turning on him. Would have been nice to have him anchor RT next year w/ our new franchise QB draftee. Maybe this misunderstanding will pass...

I was one who cheered taht moment. but here was the bigger picture. Jamaal made a helluva play, and I stood and cheered. Then saw Cassel was down, and I kinda (weakly really) cheered again, BECAUSE... because I knew KC had no choice but to make a change at that point. And yea, I was pretty damn happy about that. At no point am I cheering an injury to any player, Chief or otherwise. I hope we can get this message thru to Winston, cause I'd love for him to be here to protect rookie QB next year.

Also, I stood and cheered when Cassel was ok and got up to walk off the field.

ChiTown 10-08-2012 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8991524)
:spock: Winston has been awful? In what way?
Posted via Mobile Device

I think his pass protection has been awful. JMHO.

okiedokieokoye 10-08-2012 09:38 AM

Of course there is a "cut" in the video at the 12 second mark. What was covered up?

ChiTown 10-08-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okiedokieokoye (Post 8991644)
Of course there is a "cut" in the video at the 12 second mark. What was covered up?

:LOL:

scho63 10-08-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8991623)
I think his pass protection has been awful. JMHO.

Agreed and last week he was DESTROYED in protection numerous times. He did well on the run

lcarus 10-08-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 8991450)
The fans just got blasted on ESPN, siding with Winston. They showed the hit but no audio. Pissholy is sucessfully turning the attention away from himself and onto the "disgusting fans" in KC

http://www.demotivers.com/uploads/20...ng-To-Plan.jpg

scho63 10-08-2012 09:48 AM

I'm reading all the comments flying on ESPN and these caught my eye! I laughed my balls off!

InTheWorld69
As a Cowboys fan I would cheer if Romo died on the field
8 fans like this.

Luskersoup
There are two ways Cassel could be healthy right now:

1) If guys like Winston actually blocked for once
2) If Cassel had been on the bench, like he should be


http://espn.go.com/nfl/conversations...-cassel-injury

Rain Man 10-08-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 8991605)
He was probably frustrated that they were being booed all day for conservative & mostly inept play on offense.

If you're an offensive lineman, you probably view a 50-run game plan as the most exciting day ever.

Rain Man 10-08-2012 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 8991650)
Agreed and last week he was DESTROYED in protection numerous times. He did well on the run

And yet he's still far better than Barry Richardson in all phases of the game.

scho63 10-08-2012 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8991673)
And yet he's still far better than Barry Richardson in all phases of the game.

HELL, I'm better than Barry Richardson and I'm 49 years old, 75 pounds overweight and about 5'8" on my tip toes

htismaqe 10-08-2012 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8991673)
And yet he's still far better than Barry Richardson in all phases of the game.

Richardson doesn't look half bad playing for the Rams.

Dayze 10-08-2012 10:06 AM

Love how the media is al over this but none of them play the audio of the clips, or showing JC getting the first down.

htismaqe 10-08-2012 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8991704)
Love how the media is al over this but none of them play the audio of the clips, or showing JC getting the first down.

Soren Petro is talking about it now.

He said the national media could "sit and spin".

They weren't there and they haven't done their research. Instead, they're reporting on reporters who reported on what Winston said.

Internet meme mentality in the mainstream media, as usual.

Mizzou_8541 10-08-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8991704)
Love how the media is al over this but none of them play the audio of the clips, or showing JC getting the first down.

If they report it accurately, there is no story except some pissed off lineman who is doing his best to shift the team's shitty play off them and onto something else. Or he is just doing Pioli's dirty work.

Predarat 10-08-2012 10:15 AM

Eric Winston is a Jim Mora wanna be.



<iframe src="http://www.iviewtube.com/embed/dtno3764v778kkx6" width="520" height="360" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>

http://www.iviewtube.com/v/8225/jim-...-in-1993-(sick)

Tophawk36 10-08-2012 10:17 AM

One guy in the national media agrees that Winston is wrong.

Bill Plaschke ‏@BillPlaschke
Checked tape from KCTV5 and agree with followers..fans clearly cheering Cassel getting up, not going down..Winston wrong
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mcaj22 10-08-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8991677)
Richardson doesn't look half bad playing for the Rams.

thats because their QB has real mechanics and gets the ball out at the right time, so all he has to do is be a mauler in the run game and hold a guy for 1 second in the pass game most of the time.

with Cassel you have to try and block a guy for 25 minutes until Cassel decides if he wants to force a wobbler launch into his first and only read he stares down for the entire defense to key on

L.A. Chieffan 10-08-2012 10:18 AM

Plaschke is the Skip Bayless of LA media.

frankotank 10-08-2012 10:18 AM

when I heard about Winstons comment I was like....HUH?!
I watched the game and I rewound that play several times for two reasons.
1 - I was trying to see exactly how he got hurt
2 - I was listening for the sounds of celebratory cheering
Winston is wrong, he's emotional and he jumped the gun here. someone else already posted a PERFECT analysis of what really transpired. cheering for the play slowly comes to a halt as Chiefs nation realized Cassel was actually hurt and down, then cheering resumes when he got up and walked off.
the press is stupid. **** off.

PS - good job Quinn. good damn job! you shoulda had your first NFL TD pass bubba. good luck in tampa.

stonedstooge 10-08-2012 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 8991751)
when I heard about Winstons comment I was like....HUH?!
I watched the game and I rewound that play several times for two reasons.
1 - I was trying to see exactly how he got hurt
2 - I was listening for the sounds of celebratory cheering
Winston is wrong, he's emotional and he jumped the gun here. someone else already posted a PERFECT analysis of what really transpired. cheering for the play slowly comes to a halt as Chiefs nation realized Cassel was actually hurt and down, then cheering resumes when he got up and walked off.
the press is stupid. **** off.

PS - good job Quinn. good damn job! you shoulda had your first NFL TD pass bubba. good luck in tampa.

You are just wrong. Jaws said all 70,000 fans raised as one and cheered for the fallen Casshole laying on the field, almost dead. Imagine the harm that has come to children who attended this game seeing such a display of a disgusting magnituted. They will be ruined for life now.

BigMeatballDave 10-08-2012 10:21 AM

Going on that video, I would certainly say Winston is completely full of shit.

mcaj22 10-08-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8991764)
Going on that video, I would certainly say Winston is completely full of shit.

tell Winston to STFU

ChiTown 10-08-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8991760)
You are just wrong. Jaws said all 70,000 fans raised as one and cheered for the fallen Casshole laying on the field, almost dead. Imagine the harm that has come to children who attended this game seeing such a display of a disgusting magnituted. They will be ruined for life now.

Jaws should have his balls yanked off and shoved down his throat. Then, he might be tolerable to listen to ............

philfree 10-08-2012 10:28 AM

I believe Winston heard things the way he expected to hear them.

T-post Tom 10-08-2012 10:30 AM

Gary Pinkel is loving this.

gblowfish 10-08-2012 10:39 AM

What's this obsession Winston has with Gladiators?

He chose this life. It was a lifestyle choice.

He loves Matt Cassel. He loves blocking for him.

He loves huddling with Matt Cassel.

He loves showering with.....

OK TMI...... Drop it right there!

DeezNutz 10-08-2012 10:45 AM

So Winston is a lying bitch? Check.

Dayze 10-08-2012 10:47 AM

**** Winston.

Easy 6 10-08-2012 10:50 AM

Any NFL fan in any city, would've been rightly horrified by that straight up reerun game plan, installed to protect one player, the most important player.

Its still mind boggling how this has been spun onto the fans.

Dayze 10-08-2012 10:58 AM

It's the only thing the chiefs organization is any good at anymore

Mk19 10-08-2012 10:59 AM

Go **** yourself Winston.

KevB 10-08-2012 11:11 AM

I was sitting in the stands on the lower level. There was absolutely a vocal minority who cheered when it was apparent Cassel was down for the count. I actually remarked to my 10 year old that it wasn't right for some fans to cheer his injury to make a point to him. Were they cheering because he was hurt, or because it meant he'd be on the bench? I'm guessing the latter, but regardless it was bad form.

Charles had busted a nice run, and fans were cheering that play, as the video displayed. There was a delayed reaction to Cassel, as he was way behind the play and initially, he started to raise up as if he was going to drag himself to his feet. As he went back down and people brought their attention from Charles to Cassel, there was additional cheering. There's no doubt that happened. There is a cut in the video that excludes it. The vast majority of fans applauded when he was able to get to his feet and walk to the sidelines.

IMO, Winston went overboard. He shouldn't have called out all fans, even if he tried to correct himself later in the rant. That said, I understand why he was fired up about it.

KCrockaholic 10-08-2012 11:17 AM

This is crazy how in the same week the fans attempt to attack the organization, the organization is then attacking the fan base, and now all of the attention is directed at us.

And if Scott truly wanted to get on the good side of Chiefs fans, he'd come out and release a statement that downplays what Winston said.

Instead Pioli is a little rat that will hide when things aren't going well, and he doesn't want to stick up for the fan base anyways.

Chiefburger 10-08-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mk19 (Post 8991886)
Go **** yourself Winston.

This.


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