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tk13 06-30-2013 08:55 PM

18 firefighters die in AZ wildfire
 
Brutal.

http://dcourier.com/main.asp?Section...ticleID=120733

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PRESCOTT - The Prescott Fire Department lost nearly its entire crew today - the Granite Mountain Hotshots - with 18 firefighters dying and one surviving.

Prescott Fire spokesman Wade Ward told The Daily Courier the crew was battling the Yarnell fire, which has resulted in evacuations as it has grown to an estimated 1,300 acres in size.

A report of eight injured firefighters earlier in the evening was unconfirmed.

Ward said the extent of the survivor's injuries were not known at this time. He also declined to release firefighters' identities.

Further information was unavailable.

Volunteers with the American Red Cross Grand Canyon Chapter opened a shelter on the Prescott campus of Yavapai College Sunday for displaced residents. Expecting large numbers, Red Cross Chapter Communications Officer Trudy Thompson-Rice said plans are already under way to open a second shelter closer to Yarnell.

Yavapai County Sheriff's Office Community Relations Specialist Anthony J. Palermo said structures were burning as of Sunday night, but could not confirm how many structures were burned.

DaFace 06-30-2013 09:01 PM

Damn. That hits hard. RIP.

chefsos 06-30-2013 09:10 PM

Oh, man. That's horrible. Condolences to all their families.

Psyko Tek 06-30-2013 09:14 PM

damn that's hard
condolences

Donger 06-30-2013 09:15 PM

Crap, that's awful.

ShowtimeSBMVP 06-30-2013 09:21 PM

This sucks. Condolences to all their families.

beach tribe 06-30-2013 09:30 PM

How does that happen?

doomy3 06-30-2013 09:31 PM

Ugh. Terrible news.

I can't even wrap my mind around how something like this could happen in the middle of wilderness. Was there a huge explosion or something? I just don't understand how 18 firefighters could die at once in something like this. In an enclosed building, I could see it, but I just don't understand this one.

Demonpenz 06-30-2013 09:32 PM

Alot of times it isn't the fire that gets you. It is the smoke.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-30-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9785634)
How does that happen?

Just guessing, but a quick change in wind and kindling that goes up like the Hindenburg could easily lead to them becoming encircled.

mikeyis4dcats. 06-30-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 9785635)
Ugh. Terrible news.

I can't even wrap my mind around how something like this could happen in the middle of wilderness. Was there a huge explosion or something? I just don't understand how 18 firefighters could die at once in something like this. In an enclosed building, I could see it, but I just don't understand this one.

likely got surrounded. A huge fire like that can move quickly, and eats all the free oxygen in the air. they may have gotten surrounded and then suffocated as the fire consumed the breathable air and their supplies ran out.

Mother****erJones 06-30-2013 09:36 PM

Ugh...****ing fires. RIP fellas

TLO 06-30-2013 09:37 PM

****. That's awful. Thoughts and prayers for all involved.

LiveSteam 06-30-2013 09:45 PM

sad

Rain Man 06-30-2013 09:47 PM

Wow, that's terrible. I wonder if they got some sort of groupthink going where everyone thought someone else would call a retreat, or if something just blew up without warning. Sad thing.

Ace Gunner 06-30-2013 09:48 PM

probably cutting breaks and the wind shifted. hate to hear this happen.

Frazod 06-30-2013 10:00 PM

Heartbreaking. I'm watching the live news feed from Channel 12 (I assume from Phoenix) right now.

And holy shit, the temperature there right now is 109.

Bwana 06-30-2013 10:00 PM

Damn sad story, RIP.

lewdog 06-30-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9785683)

And holy shit, the temperature there right now is 109.

Yes, yes it is.

:facepalm:

Frazod 06-30-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9785686)
Yes, yes it is.

:facepalm:

I thought the desert got cold at night? ****.

Bump 06-30-2013 10:08 PM

that's terrible

lewdog 06-30-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9785690)
I thought the desert got cold at night? ****.

I assume you are talking about Phoenix, because other cities not as large here definitely get a bit cooler. Phoenix does not in the summer.

The concrete here just absorbs everything and radiates it all night.

There are a few weeks in the summer where if it stays consistently hot for so many days on end, that the lowest night temp we will see will be like 90-95. We had three consecutive days last year where the temp didn't get below 100 degrees even at night!

Ace Gunner 06-30-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9785683)
Heartbreaking. I'm watching the live news feed from Channel 12 (I assume from Phoenix) right now.

And holy shit, the temperature there right now is 109.

record breaking heat in the deserts out west this weekend.

Frazod 06-30-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9785693)
I assume you are talking about Phoenix, because other cities not as large here definitely get a bit cooler. Phoenix does not in the summer.

The concrete here just absorbs everything and radiates it all night.

There are a few weeks in the summer where if it stays consistently hot for so many days on end, that the lowest night temp we will see will be like 90-95. We had three consecutive days last year where the temp didn't get below 100 degrees even at night!

Didn't know that - sounds hellish. I've been out there before, but just once and it was in March.

lewdog 06-30-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9785702)
Didn't know that - sounds hellish. I've been out there before, but just once and it was in March.

Yea it is pretty unreal and is almost the complete opposite of all my years living in Montana.

But we like it. And it really isn't as bad as you think. I would take it over the humidity of the Midwest any day. I can't do that at all.

You just know that you have about 3 months of hot as hell heat. But 70-80 degree Thanksgivings/Christmases more than make up for it! Plus my commute is never messed up because of the weather. lol

Pants 06-30-2013 10:25 PM

God, that's just ****ing terrible. I just read they were deploying their emergency tent/shelters when something happened to kill them all.

chefsos 06-30-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 9785711)
God, that's just ****ing terrible. I just read they were deploying their emergency tent/shelters when something happened to kill them all.

Ah, damn. That's just what happened on Storm King Mountain. Holy crap, that's 19 years ago now that I look it up.

tk13 06-30-2013 10:48 PM

Press conference now... says 19 died, the entire crew. There was one survivor who was not in that area at the time.

Mother****erJones 06-30-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9785707)
Yea it is pretty unreal and is almost the complete opposite of all my years living in Montana.

But we like it. And it really isn't as bad as you think. I would take it over the humidity of the Midwest any day. I can't do that at all.

You just know that you have about 3 months of hot as hell heat. But 70-80 degree Thanksgivings/Christmases more than make up for it! Plus my commute is never messed up because of the weather. lol

Yup thats what I like about Charleston, no snow. We get rain thats about it lol. It does get miserably hot for about 3 months then its nice

ClevelandBronco 06-30-2013 10:56 PM

How tragic. They're saying that the Yarnell fire appears to have been started by lightning. It would be doubly tragic (if that's possible) if it weren't of natural cause.

Love Gun 06-30-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9785693)
I assume you are talking about Phoenix, because other cities not as large here definitely get a bit cooler. Phoenix does not in the summer.

The concrete here just absorbs everything and radiates it all night.

There are a few weeks in the summer where if it stays consistently hot for so many days on end, that the lowest night temp we will see will be like 90-95. We had three consecutive days last year where the temp didn't get below 100 degrees even at night!

Was the exact same way in Las Vegas when I was at UNLV.

Chiefs Pantalones 06-30-2013 11:13 PM

DPS officer that first arrived on the scene and saw the 19 firefighters dead is talking to counselors right now. He's gonna need lots of it. I can only imagine what that sight was like. We live an hour to the north it's pretty sad.

Fritz88 07-01-2013 12:28 AM

God. This is terrible.
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BlackHelicopters 07-01-2013 05:35 AM

Sad

Chaunceythe3rd 07-01-2013 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9785639)
Just guessing, but a quick change in wind and kindling that goes up like the Hindenburg could easily lead to them becoming encircled.

This. And intense wildfires make their own weather. Microbursts where a column of rising air collapses to the ground and creates severe winds in all directions, even counter to the prevailing winds, are not uncommon. Prevailing winds are consistently from one direction and pushing the fire then all of a sudden a microburst either accelerates the fire in the same direction or forces it in another direction. May have been what happened here. So sad to think of the loss of young life. May God give their loved ones the strength to cope with this tragic loss.

Frazod 07-01-2013 10:21 AM

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