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Mr. Laz 12-23-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9233462)
Well we don't exactly agree on all of it.

For me it has nothing to do with abortion, or religion.

I am opposed to government funding of embryonic stem cell research because its an enormous waste of money.

really?

and if/when stem cell research cures a health problem like paralysis or muscular dystrophy and gets MILLIONS of people off of disability and back into the workforce?

WhiteWhale 12-23-2012 08:29 AM

Tip for all of you....

Do not debate this topic with anyone who uses the phrase "Human fetus stem cells".

They're clearly not educated on the subject and are using rhetoric as their only weapon.

They're called embryonic stem cells, not 'human fetus stem cells'. As someone pointed out you can get these stem cells from umbilical chords. Who the **** is opposed to harvesting stem cells from an umbilical chord? Any of you fundies have a logical reason for that?

ForeverChiefs58 12-23-2012 08:46 AM

Would love for this to be a priority. The idea of helping so many people with so many different issues is beyond amazing.

The thought of not finding stem cell research, but continue to fund millions for worthless research like the millions that went to study the number of male prostitutes in Vietnam and their social settings makes my head want to explode.

Ace Gunner 12-23-2012 09:17 AM

as of now, SCR has resulted in the cure for certain types of cancer & diseases such as diabetes.

and ya -- this should be funded by tax $$ for a number of reasons.

Chief3188 12-23-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9233923)
as of now, SCR has resulted in the cure for certain types of cancer & diseases such as diabetes.

and ya -- this should be funded by tax $$ for a number of reasons.

There is a cure for diabetes?

htismaqe 12-23-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9233834)
really?

and if/when stem cell research cures a health problem like paralysis or muscular dystrophy and gets MILLIONS of people off of disability and back into the workforce?

I am ALL FOR funding, and even increasing funding, of adult stem cell research. It is very promising.

I am not in favor of continuing to fund embryonic stem cell research any more than I am interested in flushing taxpayer money down the toilets on Pennsylvania Avenue.

htismaqe 12-23-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 9236484)
There is a cure for diabetes?

Cure? No.

However, stem cells have shown promise in this area.

Chief3188 12-23-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9236505)
Cure? No.

However, stem cells have shown promise in this area.

Thanks. I already knew the answer but just wanted to know what the poster thought he was talking about.

Ace Gunner 12-23-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 9236484)
There is a cure for diabetes?

certain types, yes

ThaVirus 12-23-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 9233877)
Would love for this to be a priority. The idea of helping so many people with so many different issues is beyond amazing.

The thought of not finding stem cell research, but continue to fund millions for worthless research like the millions that went to study the number of male prostitutes in Vietnam and their social settings makes my head want to explode.

Or attempting to find out if the world is just a huge computer simulation ala The Matrix?

Chief3188 12-24-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9237719)
certain types, yes

Certain types? There are only 2 types. IDDM and NIDDM. There is a treatment for both types thru medication and diet but no cure yet bud.

philfree 12-24-2012 10:29 AM

I was thinking maybe they could stem cell me a liver just in case mine wares out prematurely.

Ace Gunner 12-24-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 9238339)
Certain types? There are only 2 types. IDDM and NIDDM. There is a treatment for both types thru medication and diet but no cure yet bud.

google is your friend

https://www.google.com/webhp?sa=N&hl...w=1181&bih=599

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/252759.php

Chief3188 12-24-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9238435)


Google could be your friend as well. As it clearly states these are possible cures, potential cures.... not an actual cure yet which what has been said already.

Mr. Laz 12-24-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9238411)
I was thinking maybe they could stem cell me a liver just in case mine wares out prematurely.

They could but i think it requires embryonic stems cells

It would basically end extensive organ donor waiting lists and also end people needing to take organ rejection medicine for the rest of their lives.

it's called therapeutic cloning


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