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Deberg_1990 02-06-2020 08:18 PM

Raiders poised to pursue Tom Brady
 
Thoughts?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders are poised to pursue quarterback Tom Brady if he doesn&#39;t re-sign with the Patriots before free agency begins, league sources told ESPN.<a href="https://t.co/rAloZCF2W1">https://t.co/rAloZCF2W1</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1224019742081671175?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

St. Patty's Fire 02-06-2020 08:19 PM

Please bring him in the division. Please.

Stryker 02-06-2020 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 14782695)
Please bring him in the division. Please.

THIS!

wazu 02-06-2020 08:21 PM

I'm gonna need a second straight year of Raiders Hard Knocks.

DRM08 02-06-2020 08:21 PM

Davis is scared shitless of Mahomes. Unfortunately for him, Brady doesn't get to bring Belichick with him.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-06-2020 08:22 PM

So where does this originate from. If it comes anywhere from the Raiders it's tampering. Brady is still under contract.

Pasta Giant Meatball 02-06-2020 08:22 PM

And??

Discuss Thrower 02-06-2020 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14782699)
I'm gonna need a second straight year of Raiders Hard Knocks.

Last season really was a ****ing hoot.

JD10367 02-06-2020 08:23 PM

As a Patriots fan, I’m in the extreme minority. I don’t drink the Kool Aid with the 95% of the nut hugging bandwagon fans. I think his best days are done, at best he’s a middle of the pack QB, and the $30M they’re supposedly willing to give him can be better used elsewhere.

As a Chiefs fan, I would find it hilarious and I would love it if he went to the Raiders, Broncos, or Chargers. It would guarantee mediocrity and put off their search for a franchise QB for another season.

staylor26 02-06-2020 08:23 PM

I just don’t understand why all of these teams are lining up to sign a 43 year old that’s due for a HUGE drop off next year

Rain Man 02-06-2020 08:24 PM

This decade keeps getting better. Import a washed up immobile quarterback into our division who deserves to be punished.

comochiefsfan 02-06-2020 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782706)
I just donít understand why all of these teams are lining up to sign a 43 year old thatís due for a HUGE drop off next year

Desperate teams trying to draw fans and sell tickets.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-06-2020 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782706)
I just donít understand why all of these teams are lining up to sign a 43 year old thatís due for a HUGE drop off next year

Because Mahomes. Denver has scrambled through QB's. Chargers let Phyliss walk and the Raiders know Mascara can't keep up.

They're all desperate and it's showing.

FlaChief58 02-06-2020 08:27 PM

If there's a god in heaven, please let this happen!

Chiefs4TheWin 02-06-2020 08:28 PM

muhahahhahaha yesssssss.

Hammock Parties 02-06-2020 08:29 PM

we will shit in his ****ing mouth twice a year instead of just once

staylor26 02-06-2020 08:31 PM

How much better is a 43 year old Brady than Carr?

DRM08 02-06-2020 08:31 PM

Carr has gotta be furious. But not a damn thing he can do about it. LMAO

Red Dawg 02-06-2020 08:31 PM

No chance in hell. He won't.

Gravedigger 02-06-2020 08:32 PM

At this time, I feel like the Raiders aren't about winning as much as they are about PR going into their new stadium to sell season tickets for the new few seasons. Tom Brady isn't going to win the Raiders a Super Bowl. The player and the organization are looking to profit off each other.

mr. tegu 02-06-2020 08:33 PM

Canít wait to beat him by double digits twice.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02-06-2020 08:34 PM

I swear we just had a thread about this

dlphg9 02-06-2020 08:36 PM

Ummm tampering much? You cant do that.

St. Patty's Fire 02-06-2020 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782706)
I just donít understand why all of these teams are lining up to sign a 43 year old thatís due for a HUGE drop off next year

People legitimately believe that because he was once an all time great he still is. There are morons like my dad, for example, who think heís still as good as he was when he was 30 ďbecause 6 rings durrĒ. There are likely NFL front offices who have this idiotic mindset as well.

RunKC 02-06-2020 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782706)
I just donít understand why all of these teams are lining up to sign a 43 year old thatís due for a HUGE drop off next year

Raiders are way better of a system for him than NE. Theyíve got all the pieces but receiver for him.

Gruden loves the run first, short/quick pass offense that Brady has thrived in

Baby Lee 02-06-2020 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14782700)
Davis is scared shitless of Mahomes. Unfortunately for him, Brady doesn't get to bring Belichick with him.

Or the 2000s

CarlosCarson88 02-06-2020 08:43 PM

He isn't going anywhere.
I doubt it.

Deberg_1990 02-06-2020 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14782737)
Raiders are way better of a system for him than NE. They’ve got all the pieces but receiver for him.

Gruden loves the run first, short/quick pass offense that Brady has thrived in

Gruden loves him some dusty old veteran QB

F150 02-06-2020 08:45 PM

Dont have any interest in Tom Brady or the Raiders. Somehow I have a feeling they and the rest of the division are fighting for second place. And I dont care.

notorious 02-06-2020 08:48 PM

https://i.gifer.com/Yl9z.gif

digger 02-06-2020 08:48 PM

Who is there back up when Brady is broken? Arrowhead SouthWest in LV...lol

staylor26 02-06-2020 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14782737)
Raiders are way better of a system for him than NE. They’ve got all the pieces but receiver for him.

Gruden loves the run first, short/quick pass offense that Brady has thrived in

Lol hyperbole much?

They have a better OL and RB. That’s it. How would Brady have looked the last 2 years on the Raiders with no defense?

wazu 02-06-2020 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782706)
I just donít understand why all of these teams are lining up to sign a 43 year old thatís due for a HUGE drop off next year

The dropoff has already happened. He could bounce back some and still be bad.

CasselGotPeedOn 02-06-2020 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782752)
Lol hyperbole much?

They have a better OL and RB. Thatís it.

Way better TE

staylor26 02-06-2020 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14782761)
Way better TE

Yea I did forget about him. Itís still not going to make a difference when he also has the Raiders defense and heís 43 ****ing years old.

staylor26 02-06-2020 09:00 PM

2019 Tom Brady:

4,057 yards 24 TD’s 8 INT’s

2019 Derek Carr:

4,054 yards 21 TD’s 8 INT’s



https://i.imgur.com/GqjWc6f.jpg

Superturtle 02-06-2020 09:02 PM

One of the only teams that actually make sense IF Brady decides to leave New England, and it has nothing to do with on the field.

staylor26 02-06-2020 09:03 PM

10 of Brady’s 24 TD’s last year came in the first 5 weeks.

Why Not? 02-06-2020 09:03 PM

Smart by the Raiders if true. Won’t be able to compete in the division for a decade so might as well try to get old east coasters living in Vegas to snap up season tickets.

kcclone 02-06-2020 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782768)
2019 Tom Brady:

4,057 yards 24 TDís 8 INTís

2019 Derek Carr:

4,054 yards 21 TDís 8 INTís



https://i.imgur.com/GqjWc6f.jpg


With a way easier schedule

RunKC 02-06-2020 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782752)
Lol hyperbole much?

They have a better OL and RB. Thatís it. How would Brady have looked the last 2 years on the Raiders with no defense?

Darren Waller is a good TE. Hunter Renfrow has 600 yards and 4 TDís as a rookie slot WR. Thatís absolutely the type of receiver Tom loves. Extremely similar to Welker and Edelman in that role.

Raiders would easily be able to snatch CeeDee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy or Henry Ruggs with the 12th pick to add a weapon.

The offense just seems perfect for him. Defense is still shit though. Canít argue that.

FringeNC 02-06-2020 09:11 PM

There's a big issue here -- after playing in the that NE offense his whole career, is he really going to want to have to learn the WCO?

jdubya 02-06-2020 09:19 PM

Funny. A declining Brady is still better than Carrs ceiling haha. Arguably the raiders have a better Oline, RB, FB, and TE`s and slot WR than Brady had last year. I think raiders fans must be done with Dalton, oops I mean Carr

This isnt tampering unless actual negotiations are going on

staylor26 02-06-2020 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 14782798)
Funny. A declining Brady is still better than Carrs ceiling haha. Arguably the raiders have a better Oline, RB, FB, and TE`s and slot WR than Brady had last year. I think raiders fans must be done with Dalton, oops I mean Carr

This isnt tampering unless actual negotiations are going on

Based on what? Their production was identical last year. Brady is now another year older. If heís better, itís by an inch.

jdubya 02-06-2020 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782801)
Based on what? Their production was identical last year. Brady is now another year older. If heís better, itís by an inch.

Just my opinion. Pats defense was legit but their offense IMO had far fewer weapons than the raiders. Yes the raiders need a number 1 wide receiver but but they have Jacobs, Waller, Renfrow and 1 or 2 serviceable players that Brady would have been successful. Living here in the Bay Area I saw most raider games and Carr is a disaster. The king of checkdowns and plays with fear. He has the physical tools but mentally is the polar opposite of Patrick. The longer the raiders keep Carr, the better for all of us.

dlphg9 02-06-2020 09:30 PM

No way the Raiders draft a QB until Gruden is gone. He always goes and gets some old vet and has never came close to developing a young QB. He knows the only possible way for him to make it to the playoffs is getting a vet, because he will ruin any young guy theyd draft.

It's amazing what winning a SB can do for a persons career. Jon Gruden is literally Jeff Fisher, Gruden has a .510 winning % and Fisher has a .512 winning %. The only difference is Gruden has a SB ring because he took over Dungys team.

JG has been a HC for 13 years and has only won 10+ games 4 times Jon is the perfect guy to run the Raiders because he will do just enough to keep them at 7 or 8 wins, which isn't a problem for Raiders fans since they have been use to 4 or 5 win seasons for so long.

The Raiders are such shitty organization and have the trashiest fan base in all the pro sports. Hopefully they let that ugly mother****er run the show well past this contract.

warpaint* 02-06-2020 09:36 PM

This move would help the Chiefs beat the Patriots and the Raiders. A unique daily double. Sign him up please.

notorious 02-06-2020 09:37 PM

I was just lurking on the Raiders forum and saw something that was quite funny and awesome.

Carr's name is "Carrbage."

LMAO

New World Order 02-06-2020 09:44 PM

TB would be a good spot for him.

New World Order 02-06-2020 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14782825)
I was just lurking on the Raiders forum and saw something that was quite funny and awesome.

Carr's name is "Carrbage."

LMAO

ROFL

TribalElder 02-06-2020 09:48 PM

Brady would be dumb as **** to go to a team in the AFC west

he has benefitted from a shit division all his career

he needs to go to dallas where he won't see mahomie until the superbowl if they make it

Detoxing 02-06-2020 09:54 PM

LMAO not a chance in hell he wants to be in the same division as Mahomes

Buehler445 02-06-2020 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 14782705)
As a Patriots fan, Iím in the extreme minority. I donít drink the Kool Aid with the 95% of the nut hugging bandwagon fans. I think his best days are done, at best heís a middle of the pack QB, and the $30M theyíre supposedly willing to give him can be better used elsewhere.

As a Chiefs fan, I would find it hilarious and I would love it if he went to the Raiders, Broncos, or Chargers. It would guarantee mediocrity and put off their search for a franchise QB for another season.

Virtually everyone agrees with your position.

Out of curiosity, what do you have for QBs on the roster, besides shit for arm?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14782742)
Gruden loves him some dusty old veteran QB

Maybe Gruden will rupture some of Brady's internal organs like he did Chris Simms.

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782768)
2019 Tom Brady:

4,057 yards 24 TDís 8 INTís

2019 Derek Carr:

4,054 yards 21 TDís 8 INTís



https://i.imgur.com/GqjWc6f.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782773)
10 of Bradyís 24 TDís last year came in the first 5 weeks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 14782775)
With a way easier schedule

Holy ****ing hell. WOOF

SnakeXJones 02-06-2020 09:56 PM

It would be nothing but a PR move for Raiders since it's their first year in that shit hole Vegas

Buehler445 02-06-2020 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14782825)
I was just lurking on the Raiders forum and saw something that was quite funny and awesome.

Carr's name is "Carrbage."

LMAO

Sweet Jesus. That has to be adopted into CP Lexicon.

warpaint* 02-06-2020 10:00 PM

I get why the Pats want him back. It's that, Cody Kessler or Jarrett Stidham (sp's?). Until they draft somebody that is...

backinblack 02-06-2020 10:01 PM

gonna be super pissed if we sign Brady. Waste of time and money, could get a better quarterback at Big Lots.

Bowser 02-06-2020 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14782690)
Thoughts?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders are poised to pursue quarterback Tom Brady if he doesn&#39;t re-sign with the Patriots before free agency begins, league sources told ESPN.<a href="https://t.co/rAloZCF2W1">https://t.co/rAloZCF2W1</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1224019742081671175?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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dlphg9 02-06-2020 10:35 PM

I bet Tom wouldnt even answer the phone if the Raiders came calling or he'd laugh until they hung up. Tom will only go to someone with a chance to win the SB and that's not the Raiders. Tom's not going to a team in the AFC West, because he knows there is no chance to beat us. Hell he will avoid the AFC all together. He doesn't wanna go play for that creepy looking dipshit or for that trash org.

CarlosCarson88 02-06-2020 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 14782774)
Smart by the Raiders if true. Wonít be able to compete in the division for a decade so might as well try to get old east coasters living in Vegas to snap up season tickets.

Theyll be in the playoffs next season.

TrebMaxx 02-06-2020 10:37 PM

I don't see Brady in LV since he moved his family to Florida. My gut hunch is Tampa.

Why Not? 02-06-2020 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 14782911)
I don't see Brady in LV since he moved his family to Florida. My gut hunch is Tampa.

Are you confusing Brady with Rivers?

Why Not? 02-06-2020 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14782908)
Theyll be in the playoffs next season.

Um, No.

NWTF 02-06-2020 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 14782705)
As a Patriots fan, Iím in the extreme minority. I donít drink the Kool Aid with the 95% of the nut hugging bandwagon fans. I think his best days are done, at best heís a middle of the pack QB, and the $30M theyíre supposedly willing to give him can be better used elsewhere.

As a Chiefs fan, I would find it hilarious and I would love it if he went to the Raiders, Broncos, or Chargers. It would guarantee mediocrity and put off their search for a franchise QB for another season.

Hes better than Carr but his best days are behind him. Hes what, 43 yrs old.
Hes still better than half the league but not worth what they will have to pay him.

The Franchise 02-06-2020 11:13 PM

Please do.

rtmike 02-06-2020 11:54 PM

Wow.

Iím of the opinion Carrís the better of the two but heís not an ďass for every seatĒ qb like TB would be, lol.

Chief Northman 02-07-2020 12:15 AM

Vegas.

The city of has-beens.

Rasputin 02-07-2020 01:39 AM

Please make this happen


We will send Tom Goatkid****er Brady into retirement or break apart mid~season

Rasputin 02-07-2020 01:42 AM

Even if Tom Goat****er doesn't sign with the Raiders this has got to be a bad sign in Derick Carr it shows the Coaches don't trust him and that is going leave the team not trusting in him and they won't be able to repute the sentiments.


Raiders are done before the season starts. I hope they give TomGoatlicker big money and ruin their cap space.

JD10367 02-07-2020 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14782850)
Out of curiosity, what do you have for QBs on the roster, besides shit for arm?

Iíd rather play Stidham and use that $30M to upgrade the team. Or trade for Carr or Jameis Winston (both had better stats). Or sign Andy Dalton.

CupidStunt 02-07-2020 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14782706)
I just donít understand why all of these teams are lining up to sign a 43 year old thatís due for a HUGE drop off next year

*another/continued drop-off.

scho63 02-07-2020 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 14782774)
Smart by the Raiders if true. Wonít be able to compete in the division for a decade so might as well try to get old east coasters living in Vegas to snap up season tickets.

How is it smart? :shrug:

It's anything but smart and that's the Raiders way. Lol

scho63 02-07-2020 05:28 AM

Brady started taking a lot of hits last year and he sucked. His arm and accuracy fell off a lot after the first half of season.

He feasted on shit teams.

Brady, Rivers, Manning, Flacco, Roethlisberger all should retire.

Brees only guy who still can bring it.

chinaski 02-07-2020 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14783072)
Brady started taking a lot of hits last year and he sucked. His arm and accuracy fell off a lot after the first half of season.

He feasted on shit teams.

Brady, Rivers, Manning, Flacco, Roethlisberger all should retire.

Brees only guy who still can bring it.

Manning is done. He retired.

Red Dawg 02-07-2020 06:06 AM

Brady is going no where and starting over at 43. Hes just being a jerk to Bill.

Red Dawg 02-07-2020 06:07 AM

No to mention he isn't leaving a cake walk division for one with Mahomes.

Mile High Mania 02-07-2020 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14783085)
Brady is going no where and starting over at 43. Hes just being a jerk to Bill.

I agree... makes 0 sense to move at his age.

scho63 02-07-2020 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 14783082)
Manning is done. He retired.

So did Favre once....:thumb:

Coogs 02-07-2020 06:55 AM

I like the fact that the Raiders are sending the underlying message out to their team that Carr is not the guy. Great for team chemistry this off-season even if Brady doesn't go to Vegas.

notorious 02-07-2020 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14782854)
Sweet Jesus. That has to be adopted into CP Lexicon.

I love it, but it appears that Carr wonít be around very much longer.


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