So even though they could have went last year with Smith, they wouldn't this year for no apparent reason?

If you mean SF kick returner fumbling 2x in the NFCCG then yea you are correct that's hard to sustain.

WTF were people watching in the playoffs last year?

They didn't go to the Super Bowl though because of Smith. He played like the game manager he is against the Giants. He's not elite. From now until we are dead only franchise QBs will be in the Super Bowl. It'll be the same this year, and next year and next year, and so on. Kap isn't elite yet, but he has big upside. They aren't going to the Super Bowl no matter how good their D is.

That TO differential is the only reason they got that far.

Aldon Smith with number 19.5

They didn't go last year because their ****ing kick returner fumbled 2x. What did you watch?

LMAO You're adorable.

Much like your football acumen.

I take my earlier statement back. YOU sir are the smartest man in the room. Sorry JASONSAUTO.

obligatory OMAHA!

Alex Smith didn't make the plays that elite QBs make during that game to win it though. Game managers can't overcome mistakes like that, elite QBs can. He stuntin' like his daddy (Cassel) shitting his pants, locking onto one WR that whole game. No franchise QB, no go. Evidence=they didn't win.

LAWL. There he is!

Kaepernick was the right choice.

He's one talented bear.

He is good enough to take them to OT in the NFCCG last year but no chance to go to a SB this year when he was playing even better than last year?

****ing ridiculous statement, ****ing stupid, stupid, stupid.

So, what is with all this throwing deep, challenging the defense vertically stuff....

The Miners were 0/13 on third down vs the giants last year.

I wonder how Larry Fitzgerald feels.

Truly an elite WR...signs a truly elite contract...has QB play so bad he can't get one ****ing reception this game...and it's been going on all year

he seems like a guy who wants to go down for history more than make a lot of money...this QB shit is really ****ing him

I watched the game man. His play wasn't good enough. They were not going to win that game. Eli or Smith? Who you got? People will point to those two turnovers but Smith didn't play good enough. Their defense kept them in the game but Smith was not playing well and he was not going to outplay an elite QB. They aren't winning a Super Bowl with Alex Smith. Harbaugh had to stroke his crap of an ego to even play to a game manager level. Kap has more upside and will likely develop nicely, hopefully for them.

I'm never drafting Bradshaw ever again.

wtf is seattle doing to arizona?

51-0

the seattle d in ff league has 42 points....

I didn't wanna look it up because I know he didn't play well but thanks. On third down is where franchise QBs make their money.

Somewhere on a Zona board "WhiteRob" blames Larry for Zona's troubles.

How many points did the Giants score off Kyle Williams fumbles? 14.

The game was decided by 3 points. I am not a rocket scientist but I can tell you Smith didn't lose that game. He had 2 TD's and no turnovers and you have no idea what he may have done had Williams not gifted the ball back to the Giants 2x deep in their own end of the field.

If you cant get that its not my fault.

Seattle went for it on 4th and 23?

Go **** yourself, Pete Carroll.

well I'll tell you what

watching that 49ers/Giants game...neither offense wanted to win the game...49ers D was too tough, and Alex Smith (IMO) wasn't up for it...

the game was won when Kyle Williams ****ed up

both offenses had several chances to win

you know you're a bad QB when you get benched for Ryan Lindley, regain your starting QB position from Ryan Lindley, and then play so bad you get re-benched for Ryan Lindley

Vernon Davis 73 Yd Pass From Alex Smith (David Akers Kick)

Vernon Davis 28 Yd Pass From Alex Smith (David Akers Kick)

Smith was a choking mother ****er for sure.

Yes he has always been a classless bitch but i would take him as a coach in a heartbeat.

Saints D is just abysmal

Saints defense = ass

WOOOOOO

OOOOOOW

that guy was a LASER, almost made charles look slow.

I don't think Smith is elite, but he did make elite plays vs the Saints.

Elite QBs aren't always elite. Much like Rodgers vs the Giants in the playoffs.

We know this, we even beat them.

Ain't gonna tackle and Ain't gonna cover

I like this Wilson kid (Giants)

All we know is what did happen. Smith may have not lost it, but he didn't win it. And that's what franchise QBs do, they win games. An Alex Smith QBed team will never go to or win a Super Bowl. He's not good enough to do so, fumbles or not.

Seattle just called a TO up by 57 points.

Ramsfan is jelly

Cassel made elite plays vs. the Saints D.

Wow! David Wilson TD

100 yds rushing

ROFLROFLROFL I want Carroll in Jacksonville.

Carroll is a great coach. Seattle did good with that hire.

Good. Gotta keep the Cowpokes out of first.

Pete thinks he's still at USC. lol

hi, pumpkin~ :D

I cannot remember the last time the Giants scored over 50 points...

defense needs work

it's a process /CP

This is Arena Football right here

No WE don't know this.

What we do know is SF lost because of Williams fumbles, end of story, without that they win the game 95% of the time and are in the SB. History proves that out.

They just mentioned that on XM radio and I think its been somewhere around 20 years, can't remember exactly....it's been a long time!!!!



How sad is it that saying it's been 20 years ago sounds so bad until you do the math....I'm getting old. :(

Good for Carroll -

I was not sure he would do well - Carroll, is a players’ coach.

quality irony

Don't really care about what he did early in the game...they had three possessions to get one field goal and he was abysmal

Game managers don't win Super Bowls. Smith wasn't going to make the plays, and didn't make the plays necessary to win that game. He would've been good back in the early to mid-90s though lol. He's shit.

Wow... thanks

Boom.

Why anyone is arguing over Alex ****ing Smith is beyond me. He will never do anything special. He's a ****ing game manager.

Thats cool dude we can just ignore what actually happened and go with your theory.

Both Eli and Alex were terrible during the stretch of that game in all honesty

Yes he's proof you don't have to be hard ass to be a successful coach in this league. You just have to be smart and understand the game instead of searching for your next bag of Cheetos like Romeo.

You can't use 'elite' and Cassel in the same sentence.

The universe could implode.

What actually happened is Smith played like shit and didn't win the game like the game manager he is. You can't count on a QB like that, no matter how good a defense you have. Geez louise lmao

I would like to burn my eyes out every time I trick myself in reading one of your posts.

I guess maybe the point I was making is getting lost.

Not trying to say Smith is elite.

I am arguing the statement that Alex Smith could never lead a team to a SB when aside from 2 ST fumbles in an OT game in the NFCCG he would have done just that last year and was playing even better this year.

If you say he didn't lose that game then you say someone else did and therefore had that person (Williams) not ****ed up they are in the SB.

That makes my point.

1986....not quite 20 years, but close enough.

Good ole Hootie has a way with the ladies ROFL

But who made the clutch plays when his team needed it? Eli.

Hootie? LMAO

are we remembering this game correctly?

both San Fran and NYG had chances to win the game on offense...and neither QB made a play. Not once. For several series.

The game was won when Kyle Williams fumbled, yet another, punt.

Plain and simple.

uh, not for nothing - but SFan had/has an elite defense.

anyway, i try to keep not to comment on these types of posts concerning our Super Bowl win last Feb.

Capn Tasty is a former exiled poster by the name of Hootie fond of roofies and urination.

and as for the Giants chick who knows NOTHING about football...

I've been the biggest Eli supporter from basically day 3 since he's been in the league. There is a locked thread from a few years before Eli beat Brady in the Super Bowl where Clay and I had a debate over instant messanger about me thinking Eli had really turned a corner and was going to be an all-time great...on this board.

So yeah...I know you're a huge Giants homer with zero football knowledge but at least do your research. I think Eli is the 4th best QB in the NFL.

Playing better this year? He was playing so good his coach decided to bench him. Harbaugh knew what he had in Smith that's why he benched him. He had played as good as he was gonna play and that wouldn't have been good enough to take them to the Super Bowl. Kap's ceiling is much higher. That's why he made the move.

OK, I LOL'd...

Totally agree.

100%

the 49ers absolutely shut down Eli and Alex Smith couldn't even come close to capitalizing...shit, I don't think he got a 1st down

but still...neither offense won that game

Kyle Williams simply lost it

those are the facts from that game

I think the Team from Shitville will be handed a big loss from the Giants today...

Disagree with a lot of this.

Smith is a capable NFL QB. And you're right, he's the definition of a game manager who isn't going to go out there and win many games...his performance against New Orleans in the playoffs last year was admirable and I'm sure he'll find another team who will give him one more chance to be a starter.

but the reason for his benching had nothing to do with his play...Alex Smith was playing reasonably well this year...

the reason for his benching was because Kaepernick can be an elite, franchise QB. Plain and simple. Smith cannot.

OK, I took the day off from drinking, but I'm stunned some folks are saying that Eli isn't all that good??? Huh???!!! OK, back to the Merlot!

shut Eli down? stop being a dumbass!

you know jack shit - or you would have brought it up 20 ****ing posts ago

Which disproves the statement a Smith led team could never go to the SB.

Its this simple.

If you ask yourself honestly, had Williams not had the second fumble, not even considering the first one, do you think SF wins that game?

The simple answer is yes.