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Bewbies 01-28-2013 10:56 AM

Why does everyone try and point to "all the lineman" Reid took while ignoring the fact that his very first pick, at #2 overall was a QB?

It might be Smith, it might be Barkley, but make no mistake, we will be taking a QB at #1 overall.

htismaqe 01-28-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9358031)
What do most suppose draft boards have Joeckel going? Who is to say Dorsey is any different than them or *****?

What in his history suggests he's going to take a LT that high?

ChiefMojo 01-28-2013 11:02 AM

More likely than a QB I bet you.

mcaj22 01-28-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9358025)
No, they don't.

Defensive line, yes.

Offensive line, absolutely not.

what are Derrek Sherrod, Bryan Baluaga, Danny Watkins and Shawn Andrews then?

htismaqe 01-28-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9358126)
More likely than a QB I bet you.

That wasn't the discussion. Stay on topic here.

ChiefMojo 01-28-2013 11:07 AM

Dorsey doesn't have a history with picking early in general but he does have a major history of taking OT's in the 1st round.

htismaqe 01-28-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9358136)
what are Derrek Sherrod, Bryan Baluaga, Danny Watkins and Shawn Andrews then?

The 32nd, 23rd, 23rd, and 16th overall picks, respectively.

I don't see any top 10 picks there, let alone a #1 overall.

tony77 01-28-2013 11:08 AM

Well I say **** him!

ChiefsCountry 01-28-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9358145)
Dorsey doesn't have a history with picking early in general but he does have a major history of taking OT's in the 1st round.

Also had Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers on the roster the whole time as well.

htismaqe 01-28-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9358145)
Dorsey doesn't have a history with picking early in general but he does have a major history of taking OT's in the 1st round.

Exactly.

He doesn't have a history with picking early.

Therefore, EVERYTHING is a guess.

Some people here simply cannot see this in anything other than black and white.

Note that I never mentioned anything about a QB, YOU gravitated to it immediately.

ChiefMojo 01-28-2013 11:12 AM

But where did they draft Rodger's in the first round? They got Favre from a trade. Where GB got Rodger's is much closer to #34 than #1. He was also the BPA on there board at that time. Rodger's wasn't a pick of need either.

I bet guys like Wilson and Barkley will be there at #34.

Phil Savage (ex Browns GM, current Eagles personnel guy and runs the Senior Bowl) just said the same that Wilson will be there in the 2nd.

RunKC 01-28-2013 11:15 AM

I still think Pioli would have drafted Glennon. We all know he had a man crush on him.

htismaqe 01-28-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9358164)
But where did they draft Rodger's in the first round? They got Favre from a trade. Where GB got Rodger's is much closer to #34 than #1. He was also the BPA on there board at that time. Rodger's wasn't a pick of need either.

Dorsey has spent 2 top 10 picks on DL and 1 on a LB. That's the only top 10 picks he's been in on.

Reid spent his one top 5 pick on Donovan McNabb. Outside of Tre Thomas at #11 overall, he spent ALL of his top 15 picks on defensive linemen (like 6 of them in total).

So if you want to make a case they'll take a DEFENSIVE LINEMAN, I'll hear it. There's at least some evidence (even though it's a small, small sample) that they would do it.

There's absolutely ZERO evidence they value offensive linemen that highly.

ChiefMojo 01-28-2013 11:21 AM

Oh I agree there.... I think DL is much more likely than a QB also. Regardless #1 is going to be a guy up front.

But is it true that Dorsey and Reid DO value OL in the 1st heavily?

DJ's left nut 01-28-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9358186)
Dorsey has spent 2 top 10 picks on DL and 1 on a LB. That's the only top 10 picks he's been in on.

Reid spent his one top 5 pick on Donovan McNabb. Outside of Tre Thomas at #11 overall, he spent ALL of his top 15 picks on defensive linemen (like 6 of them in total).

So if you want to make a case they'll take a DEFENSIVE LINEMAN, I'll hear it. There's at least some evidence (even though it's a small, small sample) that they would do it.

There's absolutely ZERO evidence they value offensive linemen that highly.

Making Jason Peters the highest paid LT in the league is some evidence. Perhaps not the most compelling, but evidence nontheless.

Reid's shell concept is built around his LT, QB, pass rushers and #1 CB. He absolutely places a high value on the LT position.

The most demonstrative pick made, however, was the first one Reid ever made. He knows the value of wrapping up the QB position first and building around it.


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