Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9426093)

I thought he was projected to go top 5 or 10 last year if he would have come out? Why did he fall?

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9426093)

I thought he was projected to go top 5 or 10 last year if he would have come out? Why did he fall?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9426088)

This is probably true.

Manuel's not a good fit for Reid's system as we know it. That said, the way he tweaked it for Vick (use your legs to create space downfield - bombs away) could certainly fit EJ.

We'd need to do a lot of work on the WR corp, though. Bowe is a good start, but we'd need a Harvin or Maclin to spread defenses downfield.

The simplest, safest answers are Geno, Barkley, Wilson (in that order, IMO); but an extremely ballsy alternative would be trading down with Philly, picking up another freak of nature like Floyd to play alongside Poe and grabbing Manuel.

I don't have the cajones to try it because that's the kind of boom/bust draft that could get you fired, but if it all worked out, it could be !@#$ing unbelievable.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9426106)

Well, you could get a good start on that at WR in this draft, few pretty good burners and Floyd is absolutely a monster. Hell, some have advocated for taking Richardson at 1, but there is no way I'd do that.

In that situation, who would Philly be trading up for?

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9426089)

I know it's illogical, I really know that. But I just am sick at having another #7 USC quarterback named Matt.

I KNOW IT'S ILLOGICAL.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9426106)

Well, you could get a good start on that at WR in this draft, few pretty good burners and Floyd is absolutely a monster. Hell, some have advocated for taking Richardson at 1, but there is no way I'd do that.

In that situation, who would Philly be trading up for?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9426113)

Another thing to think about, ie the trade back into the first scenario. I'd say teams have a pretty good idea that we have a shithole crater at Qb and are going to be looking for one in the draft.


Passing on one at 1 and hoping to trade back into the first if a run on QB's happen is a recipe for getting ass raped on a trade back up. Teams will know we are desperate to get back up to that spot to get our guy, could end up costing more than we thought.

With this draft having alot of depth at spots we need, could backfire.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9426084)

tangibles, physical skill set...it's all there. Not going to be surprised at all if he's the Chiefs QB this fall.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9426120)

Geno.

Guys talked about that Giants pass-rush in hushed tones last season, but if the Chiefs had Sharrif Floyd and Dontari Poe pushing as 1-gaps and Houston/Hali attacking...damn, that would be filthy.

But it would all likely be for naught if you Manuel couldn't do the job (oh, and Floyd is a pretty raw prospect in his own right).

It's just interesting to think about. It's probably not smart, but you can only say "Draft Geno" so many time before you start looking for other stuff to talk about...

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9426121)

:clap::clap::clap:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9426113)

Another thing to think about, ie the trade back into the first scenario. I'd say teams have a pretty good idea that we have a shithole crater at Qb and are going to be looking for one in the draft.


Passing on one at 1 and hoping to trade back into the first if a run on QB's happen is a recipe for getting ass raped on a trade back up. Teams will know we are desperate to get back up to that spot to get our guy, could end up costing more than we thought.

With this draft having alot of depth at spots we need, could backfire.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9426134)

No question.

It could go really poorly.

Like I said, I don't think I'd have the juevos to try it, but it's an intriguing thought. What if you could get the Eagles to send Foles and Maclin as the trade down? No picks, just Foles and Maclin. You get your WR for the deep game, you get your 'fallback' QB in Foles and you don't have to worry quite as badly about getting raped in a tradeup for Manuel; either he falls to you or he doesn't. Worst case scenario is you have a different strong-armed passer in Foles to roll with. Best case is you end up with two aggressive downfield passers, a WR that helps you make that offense go and 2 of the most impressive physical specimens in the league on the same D-Line.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9426134)

No question.

It could go really poorly.

Like I said, I don't think I'd have the juevos to try it, but it's an intriguing thought. What if you could get the Eagles to send Foles and Maclin as the trade down? No picks, just Foles and Maclin. You get your WR for the deep game, you get your 'fallback' QB in Foles and you don't have to worry quite as badly about getting raped in a tradeup for Manuel; either he falls to you or he doesn't. Worst case scenario is you have a different strong-armed passer in Foles to roll with. Best case is you end up with two aggressive downfield passers, a WR that helps you make that offense go and 2 of the most impressive physical specimens in the league on the same D-Line.