Albert and Bowe
 

Now that Pioli is out and the walrus is in...do we hang onto both Bowe and Albert? I think Andy above all understands what a healthy, true number 1 wideout and left tackle can do for your club.

I think we have to

When can we sign them?

Hope so.

I hope so. They're key pieces.

Wouldn't mind Maclin as #2 WR to Bowe as well. The cap space is there.

I hope so. I would assume that you want to keep as much talent as possible. It's not a matter of cap space for sure. And we know we don't have a cheap owner.

It comes down to roster evaluation. My hope is to sign Bowe and tag Albert at minimum. That way, we can either address Albert next offseason or we can draft a tackle in the middle of the first round, hoping that we move down the order next year.

And they're forced to spend this year correct?

Both are critical to the development of a rookie QB.

One of the biggest mistakes that Fat Scott made was trading Gonzo when we were trying to "develop" Cassel. You don't get rid of a security blanket for an inexperienced QB. Just ****ing stupid.

But, hey, at least we got Arenas out of the deal. FML.

Hopefully at least one of them. Or else we'll have 2 holes to address during the draft in addition to QB.

Reid liked Albert in the 2008 draft. Albert (reportedly) likes KC. He'll be here.

Bowe is the only question.

Would be stupid not to -- if we don't we're dramatically downgrading and/or requiring that we burn our pick on a position we already have covered (provided Clark ponies up the $$$)...

I know Bowe likes KC and is a fan of Clark so we shall see.

I do think Reid and his down the field approach bodes well for Bowe's approval. Bowe knows that Reid's going to go get a legitimate QB.

I'd imagine staying with the Chiefs sounds much better to him after the last week or so.

That would be sweet!!

It's nice to finally expect smart football moves.

I don't think there is a remote chance in hell that Bowe and Albert walk. Reid's going to need a solid, pro bowl level LT here. We have one. He's going to need a solid, athletic, nearly freakish receiver, we have one here. Bowe may drop a lot of passes because of whatever reason, be it him turning his head up the field, or Cassel throwing lame ducks at him, but you cannot deny the sheer talent the man possesses in his finesse, and ability to make catches that are inhuman.

Remember, in spite of the perception that Reid likes smaller quicker receivers, when he went all in to try to get over the top, he traded for Terrell Owens, and took a chance on his character issues.

Bowe is the same type of receiver, without the character issues.

I would bet that Reid makes a strong push to keep Bowe in KC.

As for Albert, he is exactly the type of LT that Reid likes.

No reason not to keep them in the fold.

I wonder how much the players influenced Hunt to make this hire, I wonder how much he actually talks to the players about how they feel about things?? Food for thought

The Eagles coveted Albert if memory serves.

The players loved Crennel and pushed for him to get the job last year.

We lack depth and have some really weak starters in key positions.

If anything, the players might have influenced him to keep Romeo. That's all over. This is all Clark.

You lack depth you ****ing moron.

Yea but the player's have to be just as sick of what was going on as we were, I gurantee one more year with Cassel as qb and Bowe would have demanded a trade

IMO the fact that Bowe hasn't really bitched about it yet says alot about him wanting to be here so I think he will still be a Chief

He wouldn't have to demand a trade since he's going to be a UFA.

well now, I was talkin about the last few year's he has had to put up with shit qb's. If that were Owen's or Moss or anyone like that they would have thrown a fit with the lack of qb play

You said "one more year."

We better keep both damnit

you are correct, good eye but my point is him stayin quiet and doing his job say's alot about how he feels about KC and wanting to be here

Get a hold of yourself you sniveling little btich.

We need a Carr, I mean CB also...

Great point which often doesn't get raised much. I think Bowe leaves, unfortunately.

Is Bowe going to be healthy next year? I've heard conflicting things on this.

Nah Hunt seems pretty adamant about doing what's best for the Chief's and keeping Bowe is pretty key for a shiny new qb but all we can do is wait and see

He won't have a choice if he's tagged.

Franchise tag again if necessary.

It was just a rib injury, right?

I'd tag Albert before tagging Bowe again.

Assuming neither sign before the deadline.

And keep Breaston. Chiefs should have a dramatic turnaround next year on offense.

Geno Smith runs Reid's West Coast offense. Huge upgrade.

The give Bowe his money and tag Albert.

You guys aren't worried about Albert's back? I hope he gets over it but back injuries are very serious. Can be permanent too.

When Andy Reid and the Chiefs sign the new GM, the directive should be that getting both Bowe and Albert re-signed is the top priority.

Don't let them get to free agency, and don't end up in a situation where you have to use the tag, or worse decide who to use the tag on.

I'd like to go after Harvin. I think he would be an incredible add and could probably be had for our second rounder, which I would move in a second for him.

March, when the league year begins.

Yep. The chances you draft 2 guys in those positions, who are, or ever become, as good as them is slim.

They're getting re-signed.

When can they begin negotiating?

Why trade that type pick when there's going to be very good WR talent at the top of round 2? Given his size and the nature of the sport, I'm not investing that type of resource in Harvin at this point.

Agreed. Would be an outstanding move that would help the team and at the same time send a positive message to the team and fans.

do you think patterson will make it to top of round two?

Don't think it matters what receivers are at the top of round 2.

I'm looking at CBs.

You can negotiate with your own players at any time.

Did you say something?

I was distracted by something below.

Add in the migranes and injuries... Hell no. Spectacular player when right but not right enough at this point imo
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Definitely need a CB and Safety but I was thinking of going all out on offense this year. Not gonna make the playoffs anyways. Seems like all of our TEs are hurt. Boss may not return. And we could use OL depth. Lilja retired.

Is that true about Bowe. We couldn't make a deal in season due to the tag right? I wonder of that's up?
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The owner should never listen to the players when it comes to the HC. Ever.

Remember, the players loved Herm and they loved Romeo. But the best example of what I am talking about happened after the 1986 season. The players staged a revolt against John Mackovic, and had a meeting where they convinced Lamar to fire him and make Frank Gansz the HC. The Gansz years were the worst in Chiefs history - until this year.

And I realize the actual season is over.

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They couldn't sign a deal.

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Yeah she has that talent.

I think Harvin is a top 5 talent at his position and he is very young. I would absolutely trade that pick for an electric known quantity than someone who you hope will be as good as Harvin.

I understand that lol. I think he was wondering, well I was too, when we can actually sign Bowe
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I wouldn't just due to the migraine issue.
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Well sorry milkman I just read back and saw Dane's answer
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Due to Bowe being franchised last year, I'm pretty sure there's only a 1 week window before free agency begins that they can re-sign Bowe. New rules from the CBA I believe. They can not negotiate or sign him until that window opens. That window should open in late February or the beginning of March.

Albert can be re-signed at any time.

It sounds like they got that fixed this season. Sure, it would be a bit of a risk, but no more of a risk than drafting a second round receiver. Take a look at the last few years, and I'll take my chances on a guy like Harvin there.

Harvin is a head case though, no pun intended.

If I were trading a pick for a WR, it would be for Maclin, not Harvin.

No f'n way. Minnesota loves Harvin. He's the heart of that team. They aren't trading him away.

That article kinda says differently...
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It does. But I'm telling you, our local sports station carries Vikings broadcasts, and coaches and players alike can't say enough good about Harvin. They all talk about him and the example he sets blah blah blah. And it's unsolicited.

If they are anything other than completely in love with him in Minnesota, then they've fooled me.

I don't understand why they would either. There have been some national rumors that he could request a trade since he is unhappy. If they made him available, I would absolutely give up the first pick in the second round for him. In a heartbeat. He is a rare talent.

I can easiy see a Percy Harvin trade considering he and Leslie Frazier do not get along at all. Infact they've had several heated conversations on the sideline this year.

Albert can be signed anytime, Bowe we got to wait on.

We need somebody like that, whether it's him or somebody we can get through the draft.

Percy Harvin would be a nice pickup but only problem is he is injury prone and has problems with migraines.

Maclin's a free agent. And I'd love to have him as #2 WR.

No, he's not. He is going into his contract year, just like Harvin.