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BigMeatballDave 07-06-2013 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9795120)
Link to study?
Logic. Fat people just don't live as long.

DTLB58 07-06-2013 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9795048)
And I have plenty of fat friends. None of them have ever claimed it is a disease. They know exactly why they are overweight, most just don't care enough and are lazy to eat right and workout. I am fine with that but please don't tell me it is because you have a disease.

There are a few cases where this a classification of disease is true...thyroid issues. Most are not this issue however and a diagnosis of a metabolic disorder is way over diagnosed for people who are just lazy/uneducated.
I think this thread can start and end with this post. Nice job. :clap:

Secondly, What's up with the slutty chic/ads/banner at the very bottom of the page. Yuck!

lewdog 07-06-2013 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9795128)
Logic. Fat people just don't live as long.
But they have a higher incidence of stroke, congestive heart failure and heart attacks. All which require more invasive live saving and cost measures.

ThaVirus 07-06-2013 01:46 PM
Disgusting.

There's got to be a ridiculously small percentage of the population that can actually blame their weight woes on a medical condition. Most people just like food and lounging too much to do anything about it. Close your mouth and move your legs; it's very simple.

Brock 07-06-2013 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9795120)
Link to study?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/he...8884.html?_r=0

Prison Bitch 07-06-2013 01:52 PM
It's obviously a choice to be fat. In 1980 few were fat. If we were really meant to have fat people in our society, why did it just start recently?


If you are fat stop eating fast food. Drink water for every meal. You will lose weight immediately.

lewdog 07-06-2013 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 9795098)
Long-term, health care costs more for the healthy. They live longer and die slower, more costly deaths.
Eh, did some research and seems you are right.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/he...1.9748884.html

Maybe we should just not give these people healthcare so they die even sooner! Wonder if Obama would be on board? :evil:

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2013 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9795139)
But they have a higher incidence of stroke, congestive heart failure and heart attacks. All which require more invasive live saving and cost measures.
And for most, that means death.

How many 60 yr old fat people do you know?

lewdog 07-06-2013 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9795147)
ROFL

Posted same link at the same time. I will say that more research dollars will be going into "obesity" with this disease classification, which is absurd considering we know the cause of it. I would rather that money be granted for more just causes than telling people not to be lazy, eat right and exercise.

Prison Bitch 07-06-2013 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9795150)
Eh, did some research and seems you are right.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/he...1.9748884.html

Maybe we should just not give these people healthcare so they die even sooner! Wonder if Obama would be on board? :evil:
So why ban cigarettes? I assume te same holds for them .

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2013 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9795150)
Eh, did some research and seems you are right.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/he...1.9748884.html

Maybe we should just not give these people healthcare so they die even sooner! Wonder if Obama would be on board? :evil:
I'm almost 43 and I'm not diabetic or even have high blood pressure. I've always been heavy. I rarely get sick. I'm very lucky in that regard. Plus, I've always carried health insurance. So you can **** right off. :evil:

Saulbadguy 07-06-2013 01:59 PM
If alcoholism is a disease I imagine obesity could be classified as one too.

lewdog 07-06-2013 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9795161)
I'm almost 43 and I'm not diabetic or even have high blood pressure. I've always been heavy. I rarely get sick. I'm very lucky in that regard. Plus, I've always carried health insurance. So you can **** right off. :evil:
This isn't a vendetta against fat people, as I stated. Life is short and people chose to drink/eat what they want. No problem. We all put orders on what is important in our life. This is a thread regarding the absolute horse-shit nature of our soft weak country giving further into creating an even lazier culture. There isn't more shit we need to research about the expanding waists of individuals in the USA. The answer is pretty ****ing clear.

WhiteWhale 07-06-2013 02:37 PM
People have no sense of personal accountability anymore...

Sannyasi 07-06-2013 02:39 PM
Sorry but you are conflating two different things. Obesity can be a choice and still be a disease. If a smoker gets lung cancer, is it not a disease in their case because they chose to smoke? Does someone who tans everyday and gets skin cancer not have a disease? Why is Type 2 Diabetes, which is the result of obesity, a disease but obesity isn't?

I don't know whether obesity should be classified as a disease or not, I just think your argument is horseshit.


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