Confederate States of America…
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Yeah it was done by a director here in KS.
I heard it was intereting |
Looks cool.
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I'm sure a bunch of rednecks will be there to take it over.
reporter-- Why are you here? redneck-- This movie is what should've happened!!! Slavery, yeah!!! |
I love the "What if" idea but I wish is was more of a serious approach.
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I havent seen it my cousin said it was so-so |
Its definitely worth a watch. Great thing about it is, the CSA depicted in the movie isn't that different from the USA.
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That's bullshit. If the South won the war there still would have been a US. When we won the American Revolution, we didn't take over Britain, now did we?
I agree with Rausch. A serious view of this movie would've been much cooler. |
We'd be the same USA now if the Confederates won the war.
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What if I would have joined the Navy when I dropped out of Grad School? I wouldn't have my two kids.
What if the bullet was an inch closer to my dads Heart in North Korea? I wouldn't exist, neither my kids. You can play all that mind shit all you want, it don't mean jack. It is what it is. This is, IMHO, just another way to foment racial attitudes and pave the way to reparations. What if the Indians would have kicked the "white man" back to England? What if Christopher Columbus ship would have sunk before he could have told Spain about the "new world"? They would have rightfully assumed he sailed off the edge of the earth. |
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Well, first off if the South had won we'd all be speaking French or in British accents. The US was the only strong nation in the western hemisphere at the time, and if split France and Britain would find it much easier to sail to North America and expand their empires with no strong government in their way.
But even if they were to survive that, there are many more flaws. 1. In the trailer kids are pledging allegiance to the Confederate States of America. This would never happen because the confederates were pro-state's rights and anti-federal government. They'd be saying, "I pledge allegiance to Georgia" or "I pledge allegiance to Vermont." 2. Slavery would not coexist with the technology portrayed in the movie. One of two things would have to happen. One, the states would have industrialized and slavery would have died out naturally because cotton and agricultrue in general would not be nearly as important. Or, the South would have stayed with their completely one-dimensional economy based on cotton and never modernize, or if they did it would not be at all to the extent the movie shows. Neither scenario explains why slavery would exist in the North anyway since there had never been much of a reason for it there in the first place, what with its lack of a real cash crop. 3. Slavery was, for the most part, not based on racial superiority. It was based on economic necessity to the south. They needed it to maintain the planting aristocracy which kept its economy upright. There's no reason to think that the south would sympathize with Hitler. Of course racism was a factor in slavery, but slavery was not maintained just for racism's sake. 4. Go back to the classroom scene. That would likely not happen in the first place unless it was a private classroom with the sons and daughters of plantation owners. These planters controlled society in the south, and since they could afford to have their childred attend privately or overseas they had no reason to fund public education. The literacy rate of this nation would be ridiculously low. This is of course assuming the same economic structure would be preserve. A more serious look would be a much more enjoyable and educational movie. |
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wow... :shake:
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Slavery would still have been abolished, eventually.
This film is probably more liberal trash. As soon as I saw "Spike Lee presents" my bullshit-o-meter went off. |
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Alternate history is interesting. I've only heard a little about this, so I'm not sure whether this is any good or not, but it's intriguing stuff. |
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It unfolds kid of slowly, and it doesn't have the best acting in the world, but it's a pretty good flick. |
I know I'm gonna get blasted for this, but I get sick of all of you flexing your giant brains. It seems as if all of you are experts on every topic under the sun, I wouldn't need to go to college because I would be able to find an expert on American history, science, or government, anything right here. I know next to nothing about any of these topics and yet I studied them all, except government...and science...uh come to think of it I didn't really study any of these I took the minimum requirment (one 3 hour course for each) to graduate. My guess is that most people on the planet are full of crap when they talk like professors about a given subject. We're all ready to claim to know more than people who spend thier lives studying something, football included. I wish there was more humility on here, it would be oh so refresing to hear people say, gee, I don't agree, or it sounds wrong but what do I know I'm no expert. Instead of, well here are the 157 ways so-n-so is incorrect. No, this rant is not for people with the real study time under their belt, if you want to speak up more power to you. But I just can't stand the guy who's a plumber and dabbles in astrophysics shooting off like he's Carl Sagan (No disrespect to plumbers, or astrophysicists intended.)
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Gee Skip, I know you've got some real, practical time invested in beating down the n00bs around here but you may have been a litle harsh. But what do I know ? I'm no expert on the subject. I bow to your expertise in n00b abuse. Carry on. :D |
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Cannot agree with that. I figure slavery affected the entire southern population in one way or another, unless one was blind, deaf, and dumb. Even so, I agree with the thinking of states vs federal rights as the primary cause. (Of the civil war) |
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They were two countries that were very much unalike. The North was more industrial and had a strong manufacturing base. The South was mostly into Farming. It still is mostly into farming. That is one of their problems even now. They are still clinging too hard to the past.
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I think the reflective property of slavery coexacted the transitive property of coronary artery disease, leaving the 3rd bar of every Rolling Stones song dissolving into nuclear fission with the 3rd down efficiency of Super Bowl teams.
Sorry, just flexing my giant brain. |
I can't buy that 6% theory. At the start of the Civil War, there were more blacks in S. Carolina than there were whites.
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He is probably talking about the percentage of people owning slaves... |
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Big plantation owners owned the majority of the slaves, even though they were the minority... And not all of them were slaves, a lot of blacks worked the docks as freedmen. Of course agian it depends on whose history books you read... |
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I have doubts that America as we know it would exist if the traiterous confederates would have won.
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Even if the CSA had won, taken over the whole of America, and stayed intact, I find it very hard to imagine slavery still being in effect in the 21st century. That's just a silly premise that takes me right out of "the moment," even if the movie is satirical in nature.
Also, why would they use the battle flag and not the Stars & Bars? |
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Eh, I'm on a foreign keyboard... I'm used to the ergonomic stuff with the keyboard seperated in two... This mono-board crap is for the birds... |
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No, slavery was the North's excuse to rally behind the war... Without them using slavery, the northern population would not have supported it.. The North did not want to lose the South's argicultural and military areas.. It would be like the Chiefs telling fans how much they apprieciate them and their support when all they really want them for is their money... |
Slavery was used by the North to take Britain out of the equation. We should have split into two countries. Which one would Missouri have joined? Kentucky for that matter?
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