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DJ's left nut 06-11-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9743922)
I've had to counterbid like 4 times already this morning. When I made my bid, I was the first person. I see what happened. Your initial bid was more than mine... I had made the initial bid, however your browser had not updated as you were going through it, this has to be true from my perspective because I checked my bid after I had submitted and it was there with Dallas's 3 yr deal I had offered. Your "initial" bid was naturally larger than mine, I countered immediately when seeing this.

Makes sense because I did the same - as soon as I put my bid in (and the screen said 0 at the time), I was the high bidder. I did a quick sort just to make sure. You've counterbid several times this morning because I tried to get back above you.

Eh, makes little difference at this point. But when rage said 'leverage', he was partially right - there's no incentive for me to make a quick counter to this and that's just wrong. If you try to slow-play a FA like this, he's going to tell you to get ****ed and sign the deal he has in front of him.

MagicHef 06-11-2013 11:01 AM

It's fine like it is, as far as I can see. The prices will go up until people don't want to pay more. Who cares if it takes weeks? We've got a lot of time until anything interesting and football related happens in the real world.

More research may not lead to getting incredible players at low prices like you may have hoped, but it will help you know when to stop bidding and who to focus your efforts on when money gets tight as prices continue to rise. You know, kind of like real free agency.

Ebolapox 06-11-2013 11:09 AM

'bid history' (as in, some sort of system that tells who you've bid on--via link, etc.) would be a welcome addition.

Rain Man 06-11-2013 12:08 PM

Thanks for the input, everyone.

As background for people, recognize that we're running a compressed process right now, so this is probably not really how it's going to run in future seasons. In future seasons the free agent signing period is going to occur during the NFL season, and you're gong to be pursuing free agents on a staggered basis rather than seeing the whole league at once (based on our current plans). This means that a longer window may be required on the bidding.

Linked to that is, quite frankly, our business goal of keeping people involved in the league so our paying customers don't wander off and start playing Tetris or something during the offseason. We want their involvement to be year-round at a low intensity with a big burst during the Sandbox season in February and March. So we need a system that is strategic in nature and keeps people active at a low but sustainable level over a 16 to 20 week "Sandbox offseason". So as you're providing feedback, please keep that in mind.

We'll keep improving it and appreciate the feedback. But the real test is going to come in the next free agent period after this when we enter the real-time league calendar.

rageeumr 06-11-2013 01:15 PM

Maybe I'm alone on this one, but I'd like to see a minimum increment for outbidding. Perhaps every higher bid has to go to the next tier of contract length.

I feel like we're never going to finish this with all these $1 outbids (and yes I'm frustrated that I just had a guy get bid up by $1 with 14 hours to go.)

allen_kcCard 06-12-2013 11:10 AM

Any thoughts to having an option to trade cash (cap space)? Would be nice if you have the option to sort of pay for part of a players contact by trading cash in addition to the picks/players.

Rain Man 06-12-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard (Post 9746885)
Any thoughts to having an option to trade cash (cap space)? Would be nice if you have the option to sort of pay for part of a players contact by trading cash in addition to the picks/players.

We haven't thought about that. You can kind of do it by signing a player and then trading him, though the timing would be delicate on that. We'll consider it.

allen_kcCard 06-12-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9746889)
We haven't thought about that. You can kind of do it by signing a player and then trading him, though the timing would be delicate on that. We'll consider it.

Yeah, I just thought about it when I was talking about a trade. If the players are similar and one is signed to a longer contract, it would be nice for the other team to have a way to make the contacts similar just by giving the cash it would cost to sign them to it.

topher79 06-12-2013 12:03 PM

Need injured reserve.

Hammock Parties 06-12-2013 04:45 PM

I'm thinking moving signed free agents to the bottom of the list might be prudent, no?

TambaBerry 06-12-2013 05:03 PM

Man one day away from being signed and someone bid on one of my guys gets so frustrating.

TambaBerry 06-12-2013 05:06 PM

I don't think it should reset to 3 days, once two days is up it should only reset to a day. once a day is up it should reset to 2 days.

AustinChief 06-13-2013 08:31 PM

ok I have a minor beef... if I am winning a free agent with only a few minutes left... I should be able to increase my own bid to get the contract length I want without having it reset the timer. Or maybe give an option to increase contract lengths with leftover money after free agency. Call it a "restructure period."

Hammock Parties 06-13-2013 08:32 PM

Agreed on above. This would be nice.

Rain Man 06-13-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9750615)
ok I have a minor beef... if I am winning a free agent with only a few minutes left... I should be able to increase my own bid to get the contract length I want without having it reset the timer. Or maybe give an option to increase contract lengths with leftover money after free agency. Call it a "restructure period."


Yeah, we've talked about that ourselves.


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